>> paul was one of our first paul ramsey institute fellows. our institute runs a fellowship where young men and women from different disciplines, law, phd students will apply. paul was in the first group when we launched paul ramsey institute. during his time with us he was diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer and was writing when breath becomes air. >> a wonderful book. truly moving. you have top notch academics, medical professionals and so on from throughout the country who apply for a limited number of spots. they're there for a year, two years. >> two years. >> is there a physical location? >> we have the meetings in the san francisco bay area because our fellows are either students in md programs, phd programs, law programs, so they come to san francisco for a very long weekend. we have scheduled readings and they wrestle and thk with our schoover two years, we g th y area. >> the training is in bioethics which some haven't encountered before. >> and a law student doesn't really understand the legality, gene editing, have to weigh in if we