>> i think this is a culture that includes yale but not limited to yale.t harvard and stanford are equally bad in their own respects. but this is evidence of a broader culture of so-called diversity capital need diversity that actually penalizes actual diversity of thought. and one litmus test, we live in such a polarized time, one litmus test to you to see if you care about that principle. imagine the tables were turned. suppose it was actually conservative students objecting to a left of center speaker using similar tactics. there is little doubt there would have been an outcry at yale and across elite institutions that these students were inciting violence. if you turn the tables, that would have been your answer. it still should have been your answer right now. and we need to take those political blinders off to say that this isn't a left wing or right wing issue. this is an issue about the free exchange of ideas that liberals and conservatives alike should care equally about. >> will: i'm inclined to agree with you that it's not a yale particular issu

some said they will join it and not take clerks from yale.pellate courts and possibly a theater to a supreme court clerkship, you have that on the resume and you are set in the legal profession. when you leave as a click, often they signed those bonuses for $300,000. you want to get these clerkships. it's a big deal. others say you're punishing students at yale and on the institution itself if you don't take them. >> steve: what does it say to you about the fact that, at yale law school, there is no free speech and they want to hear the one thing? that speaks to the people in charge of the school, doesn't it? >> and they are pushing back saying we have a code of respect, we made some changes, and we want people to know that there is a broader free-speech right here at yale. this event, the judge cited and say they don't want clerks in that particular school, there was a conservative atheist and a christian. they both said they were just trying to show you can be very different and have a conversation and try to find common ground. they were b

two federal judges are refusing to hire yale law students as clerks claiming at the campus perpetuates cancel quotes here. u.s. judge elizabeth banks, saying, "i'm gravely concerned the stifling debate not only antithetical to the current dome a country's founding principles but stuck and intellectual growth." the move was made in solidarity with a judge who called for a boycott for hiring yale law clerk students for similar reasons. and live golf's first champion, and tour's inaugural title finishing 16th place at the tournament in bangkok. he secured five top ten finishes

they are saying if you went to yale, we don't want you, because yale is indoctrinating you.here is not a single conservative professor. you are blocking free speech. it turns out if you come from yale you will be a bad clerk and bad employee, not the best of the best. we have to start rejecting the labels and the hierarchy that comes with them. this is a real loss. kids going to yale law school say i don't know if i can become a clerk for anyone with common sense. dan: you sent your degree to harvard back. i watched you do it on the air. pete: that's what we can do to fight back. dan: thanks a lot, pete. coming up, he was censored after appearing on joe rogan and going against the covid narrative. 2008 twitter just kicked him off the platform over 5 million people have fallen in love with a portable blender. blendjet 2 gives you ice-crushing, big blender power on-the-go. so you can throw in your favorite ingredients and blend up a delicious smoothie anytime, anywhere. blendjet 2 even cleans itself. just add water, a drop of soap, recharge quickly with any usb port. ready to

they are saying if you went to yale, we don't want you, because yale is indoctrinating you. not a single conservative professor. you are blocking free speech. it turns out if you come from yale you will be a bad clerk and bad employee, not the best of the best. we have to start rejecting the labels and the hierarchy that comes with them. this is a real loss. kids going to yale law school say i don't know if i can become a clerk for anyone with common sense. dan: you sent your degree to harvard back. i watched you do it on the air. pete: that's what we can do to fight back. dan: thanks a lot, pete. coming up, he was censored after appearing on joe rogan and going against the covid narrative. 2008 twitter just kicked him off the platform. that's next. dan: dr. peter mccollough spoke out about the ever emerging science. and twitter gave him the boot. you have always been on this show and you have been ahead of the actual science. so what happened. why are the censorship hounds coming after you now? >> dan, doctors with medical authority, i testified in the u.s. senate and have

yale owned slaves, was a dear bigot for the institution of slavery. kristen: this is where we are at. uc berkeley's law school has also had its name changed. so many of our higher education institutions and things are named after people who 150 years later i judged quite differently. is this cancel culture, as the hastings family and people would say, or province? >> first of all, you're putting words in my mouth. a hastings family descendant since on the board -- sits on the board and voted for the name change, so i'm not sure all the hastings family agrees that this is cancel culture, which is a very simply stick way of looking at it. i sit on the board of a couple historical societies, and we have very intense debates about you referred to as cancel culture. as some people say, we are not going to have a uc joseph magdala school of medicine. that's outrageous. so where's the line? a study was done at sandberg -- stanford some years ago about just how to draw that line. it is very thoughtful. they brought together a great bunch of scholars. it is a

virtually every male relative in her family worked for yale university grew up in the shadow of yale in new haven. something i note in my work is for some and imagine a working-class black person growing up in new haven, there might be resentment. for her family, there position was inspiring. her father read the privilege of young men he served at yale as a chef intogh himself. the parents thought of themselves as the father in particular, superior. they were part of the british empire and proud. they were ambitious in their own way yet she was a young girl not expected to go very far. she was incredibly intelligent and vicious and had teachers who introduced her to the work of. she decided early on she wanted to be a lawyer and when she told family and friends about this they said you must be crazy, women don't get anywhere in law yes she was able to attend college and then law school because she gave a talk at a club in new haven which happened to be attended by clarence, a graduate of yale and a wealthy man philanthropist who heard her speak and said "afterwards" why aren't you in

shadow of yale in nw haven. something i note in my work is that for some, you can imagine one of the working-class, a black person growing up in new haven in the shadow of yale, there might be some resentment. but for her family their position was inspiring. in fact, her father really read the privilege of the young man that he served at yale as the chef into himself. and the parents thought of themselves as the father in particular as superior. they were part of the british empire and proud of that. they were ambitious in their own way, and yet constance baker was a young girl and she was not expected to go very far. however, she was incredibly intelligent, ambitious, had teachers who introduced her to the work of w.e.b. du bois and james weldon johnson. she decided pretty early on that she wanted to be a lawyer, and when she told her family and friends about this they said that you must be crazy. women don't get anywhere in the law. and yet she was able to attend college and law school because she gave a talk

her father really read the privilege of the young man that he served at yale as a chef, into himself. and the parents thought of themselves as the father in particular, as superior. they were part of the british empire, and proud of that. they were ambitious in their own way, and yet constance baker was a young girl and not expected to go far. however, she was incredibly intelligent, ambitious, had teachers who introduced her to the work of wb to boyce and james weldon johnson. debbie eb to boyce and james weldon -- w.e.b du bolis, and james weldon johnson. they told her women don't get anywhere in the law, and yet she was able to attend college and then law school because she gave a talk at a social club, a civic club in new haven, which happened to be attended by clarence blakeslee, who is a graduate of yale and a wealthy man, philanthropist who heard her speak, and said to her afterwards, why are you in college? because you clearly should be. and he offered to pay for her college and law school tuition. and she said it was like a fairytale. that she could be plucked in that way. an

did you learn any constitutional law at yale?ustice alito: reading the document is actually a very ethical idea. why would anybody actually do that? the answer to the question of whether i learned constitutional law at yale is basically no. as i mentioned, professor bickel got sick and did not teach anymore, and then there was my law class. all of the students in the first semester were required to take four subjects. three of the classes were taught in big groups, big sessions, but for each of us one of those courses was taught in a small group with maybe 10, 12 students. the point of that was we were supposed to learn the subject as well as legal writing. so i looked up my course assignment and saw that i had been assigned to a small group in constitutional law taught by charles reisch. the name probably does not mean anything to people now, but, a short bio. in the 1960's he had really been a leading progressive constitutional scholar. he wrote an article called the new property, which was thought to be influential into goldbe

and so that is how this is being played by yale apiece. government. he hopes that he will win another mandate up the election next week to give him to allow me to form another coalition to continue covering governing. but like the for previous elections they've had it in. busy israel here in the last or years, it's very, very tight. that could be a comeback for benjamin netanyahu out of power for a year. polling suggests he might just edge it. so every vote the yale f pete can get to hopefully keep his coalition in power helps and on strong on security as this will be played is something that could play well with potential if there are any left wavering voters in his rep. bernard, thank you very much indeed, bernard smith at the borders when the israel and lebanon ukraine says, rushing voices are digging in to defend the southern city of castle. he says, wet weather slowed. it's kind of offensive, but his forces are making games. the prospect of another battlefield set back for president vladimir putin as increased fears. the kremlin could use a nucle

how heartening it is to hear the president of yale talk like that.ou could hear that at yale, you could hear that at chicago, at princeton, at purdue,. these are not abhorrent thoughts . some of us feel like we have been just pushed and i am glad to see the president of yale is coming out fighting. there are places like that. small, regional, sometimes big, imposing, impressive and important places like yelp. susan: perhaps the book is not a eulogy after all? john: you are pushing me to be more optimistic than i usually am so thank you for that. susan: that is it for our hour together. till people about your book. in the appendix you have a letter to high school seniors and also a letter to high school educators with specifics about your message on the liberal arts. the book is called the death of learning, how american education has failed our students and what to do about it. dr. john agresto, thanks for spending time with us. john: thank you so much. bye bye. ♪ >> all q&a programs are available on our website or at the podcast on our c-span now ap

she grew up in the shadow of yale in new haven. something i note in my work is that for some you can imagine working class black person growing up in new haven in the shadow of yale there might be some resentment. but for her family there physician was inspiring. in fact her father really read the privilege of the young men that he served at yale as a chef into himself. the parents thought ofth themselves as the father in particular and superior. part of the british empire and proud of that. they were ambitious in their own way. and yet constance baker was a young girl. she is not expected to go very far. however she was incredibly intelligent, ambitious, teachers introduce her to the work of james weldon johnson, she decided pretty early on she wanted to be a lawyer should hold a family and friends about this she said you must be crazy. women do not get anywhere and yet she was able she was able to attend college and law school because she gave a talk at a social club in new haven, which happened to be attended by clarence a break

i originated this character 30-some years ago, at yale. >> stephen: wow. here we go. that character now. >> stephen: mm-hmm. >> and the character that i am playing now is this character, doaker, who was played by carl, who was a really good friend of mine at the time. >> stephen: so this is 1987. >> oh, yeah, long time ago. long time ago. >> stephen: up at yale. now, this was-- was this play still in development? was august wilson there working on the play with y'all? >> yes. we started previews at yale, yes, he would come in with new pages during the day and we would rehearse them and learn them and do them that night. which is kind of what we are doing now, but we're not learning new things, but we're still rehearsing, because we're in previews, which means we've got to go to rehearsal all day, and then we've got to do a show at night. so we're doing twice as many shows as we're going to do when the show actually opens. so. >> stephen: what was his process like? because he's one of the greats of american theatre, of world theater-- what was that like, to work with h

unheard of, that was yale.rmy, then i signed up for additional year, i wrote yale a letter, i said i need another year they agreed, i wrote another lletter, in military in my special unit i was exposed to cuts edge technology, i realized i wanted to go to a university that is strongest technological edge possible, i apologized to yale and decided to go to m.i.t. to seize the future in terms of technology, i must say it really helped. it was a wise decision. mark: when when we come back, mr. prime minister, i want to ask but ka-- kaya, who is that? wiwe'll find out in a moment, we'll be right back. take him for a ride. mark: welcome back, we're here with prime minister benjamin netanyahu, his book is "bibi my story," i am to encourage you to get it, it is fabulous book. bibimystory.com prime minister said before the show he writes every word in in his own hand, he did it. i would love to buy this original. one day that will be worth a fortune mr. prime minister. but that said, who is kaya. in your book? >> kaya

. >> -- weinstein was a writer, a yale graduate, yale historian who >> hello, we're here today to >> allen weinstein was a writer, a yale graduate, y'all historian who wrote the book, perjury. about the alger hiss trial. it was a sensation in its day in the 1970s. because everybody thought he was going to prove that alger hiss was, in fact, innocent. and it proved just the opposite. allen weinstein went on to positions ahead of the national archives in washington for many years. and then continue to write about the trial. and he wrote about a trial called hidden woods, which was also a sensation. in about 2000, that book came out. that book came out, which was part of my research, which included two critical elements in the alger hiss story, the alger hiss trial. that is the window net decrypts, these were soviet cable traffic that the intelligence had gathered during the war. they couldn't read it because it was all in code, that they had recorded it and actually had the transcripts. it took them 20, 25 years to break this code. but by the 1990s, they had broken the code and they we

unheard of, that was yale.then i signed up for additional year, i wrote yale a letter, i said i need another year they agreed, i wrote another liletter, in military in my special unit i was exposed to cuts edge technology, i realized i wanted to go to a university that is strongest technological edge possible, i apologized to yale and decided to go to m.i.t. to seize the future in terms of technology, i must say it really helped. it was a wise decision. mark: when we co when we come back, mr. prime minister, i want to ask but kawh-- kaya, if you're loud, be louder. if you stand out, stand strong. and if you got the devil on your shoulder... take him for a ride. [ marcia ] my dental health was not good. i had periodontal disease, and i just didn't feel well. but then i found clearchoice. [ forde ] replacing marcia's teeth with dental implants at clearchoice was going to afford her that permanent solution. [ marcia ] clearchoice dental implants gave me the ability to take on the world. i feel so much better, and

that's very and professor g, cham, he's associate professor of health policy and economics at the yale university school of public health. professor g good to have you on the day, in recent days, we've seen not only people locked into disney land, but also at work in 2 department stores, airports. what are these drastic abrupt move most and tell us about china 0 co policy? ah yes and i, and as i remember, this is not the 1st time in human for destiny till closing shall hi, last time was like us asserting solomon. people were trapped this time we have no concrete number yet, but this is very consistent with china's her 0 toby policy because of the training of transmission. so when's the case is arise and low cost already is called china have been continuing to impose though sir, very at wrapped and extreme measures. and, and i, i don't think we have her, any seeing a foreseeable future to change these. says iroquois the policy as already in clearly indicate an antique, indicated in the recent to panic. congress just finished her 2 weeks ago. china is follow this strict lockdown policy f

i just finished communicating with the students and teaching community of yale university. and all overaduates have a significant influence on the decision-making of political and business at the level of public and international organizations, precisely such appeals like this with representatives of yale university we are expanding the circle of those who understand what is happening in ukraine and help us protect freedom continue this work and next week we will continue to expand our opportunities, including through informal diplomacy through the public in partner countries through the student community through professional and business communities held talks today with giorgio melanin, the head of the italian government, congratulated the prime minister on her appointment, discussed opportunities to strengthen our of cooperation in various directions, this is also the security direction, economy, diplomacy, in particular, and the integration of our state into european and euro-atlantic structures, held several meetings with the military regarding the current situation on the front li

these yale law students you hear them they say we don't want to hear. to hear the other side. that is the opposition to the greatness of our legal system. fundamental fairness. marketplace of ideas. first amendment, free-speech, they are saying we don't care and these judges are right. these individual students at yale are not qualified to be law clerks. >> they are agenda driven. leo, the question is what message, how strong and how why does this message have to be for the faculty to change their w ways? speak of these faculty members have to remember. maybe they forgotten, brian but their understanding is they need to go back and read the constitution. the need to go back and read why they are in law school. why the dean is the dean of the law school and they need to reboot their purpose to train young students to become fair and impartial law clerks who will eventually serve possibly as federal judges and maybe on the supreme court. >> we will have to see. i love it for the first time i see people taking action against this biased arrogant behavior.

the timing of this event is certainly very helpful to yale up. he'd answer many guns. he's hoping that come the election. there'll be enough of a coalition that he can bring together that he can form the next government snapping at his heels. is benjamin netanyahu looking at a come back at karen pulls actually give netanyahu's li could. and its coalition just about the largest part. empower but not perhaps with enough seats to form a government. so any thing that makes the current prime minister look good and tough on security is not going to do him any harm. yeah, bernard, that's the key point, isn't it? because yellow p m, the, the current prime minister, the caretaker, prime minister, and doesn't have the level of military experience that i previous prime minister might have been able to lay claim to. and as you say, this is crucial for him, isn't it? because it is an opportunity one would imagine for him to show some degree of strength when it comes to something like this. i had of those elections that you're talking about while israeli society remains as divided a

so blankly, if you see host or usa yales long appear on the name of those to run, they are, when you come in tomorrow losing control on me, papa a, you see him present again? i start a company on this. is this for more my he medical. yeah. lemme a dollar a year. you will see him again. this is cathy toner. we are being so home theater. they say, mentor some once a month from last year let me was in service with who's as well as hill keywords or leave. i started it. i mean timing and pissed off of my balcony. then the last copy that deals with me, my, my a for my birthday they, they last got back to you as well. please see me. my name is sophia chatted with, but i was got a simply 0 a. come with a come on, come on your door. ringback along a la see when, when of the us thing i might have to call mr. dan made a game of scalp in the, in the back home for the day. you dudley lane for thomas young already does a homeless los analysis game on st. john, with abilene for my see only the lunch, you know, the, i don't know if i'm in yet is the name was already there that all in the because the

that plays out over yale law school in early years working with the attorney general.ally he ends up voting for and working for reagan we tell that story and it is complicated but then it becomes he's attacked by the media and that reaches the peak. i should say we let clarence thomas tell the story. >> you also bring up the theme of circumstances controlling you rather than you controlling the circumstances and that something to be avoided. >> i think he would say he was blessed by having this upbringing by his grandfather. he wouldn't have been who he is without them. he isi constantly representing how important they are to him. talking about his grandfather in the book i think he feels that he was blessed in his circumstances. other people might see it differently. he has to grow up under segregation. he had many hardships. i think that he feels in a way blessed as well as challenged and one of the things justice thomas' life is coming back in the face of hardship and feeling basically blessed and that is inspiring to all of r us. >> she helped tell the story but he

two federal judges are refusing to hire yale law students as clerks claiming at the campus perpetuatesabeth banks, saying, "i'm gravely concerned the stifling debate not only antithetical to the current dome a country's founding principles but stuck and intellectual growth." the move was made in solidarity with a judge who called for a boycott for hiring yale law clerk students for similar reasons. and live golf's first champion, and tour's inaugural title finishing 16th place at the tournament in bangkok. he secured five top ten finishes in the first six events he played n and johnson earned $18 million winning a championship taking his total prize money of $30 million in 26 events since joining liv golf. that is a lot of money and a lot of zeros. >> steve: no kidding, all right, carley, thank you so much. >> you're welcome. meanwhile new york strict gun laws facing a challenge. there are some sheriffs who will ignore them. the next guest is among a half-dozen sheriff's who will not agree aggressively enforce the law which bans guns in sensitive areas like religious centers, state par

and what we've discovered beginning with william nordhaus of yale and of was gail poole way and married to peer review interviewed them about their books their fabulous book called superabundance which shows that that is really a science of abundance and and and this is a crucial difference that all of economics science has been based on the idea scarcity that alternative uses for scarce resources implying that i can mix is in some way a zero sum game constrained by material limits and i've been for a decade now, i've been developing the information theory of economics, which is which is a science of abundance and the and the key purpose positions are, well, is that things well is knowledge growth. and we know wealth is knowledge then neanderthal in his cave had the material resources we have of all the difference between our age and the stone age as they accumulate knowledge and growth is learning and for all my career i've been writing learning curve moore's laws the most famous learning curve about the mobile version of computer a microchip. and now that and i've realized now that th

and there's another, epi burned environmental protections from yale universityse and if you lok at therelation, qc countries were the best, the freest countries. i think you don't need things like this. >> site two books in your book the power of capitalism you talk about thomas, the capitol in the 21st century jason riley's please stop helping us. why did you bring up those two books? >> one of the greatest books i can recommend to everyone. please stop helping us written by a black american, the welfare state and all the things that are good but bad for them. please stop helping us.ou it's the same the only here in the united states but worldwide. the continent got so much aiden in africa but did help? d what helped capitalism. in asia. we spoke about china but not the amount. we can speak about singapore or south korea. korea in the 60s, one of the first countries, i have a chapter in my book, north korea or south korea. today south korea great. developing state. the other book, his thesis is in the last 20, 25 years inequality is on the rise. the cap between the poor and the rich h

doesn't matter if i went to harvard or yale or oxford. it doesn't matter. what matters is i'm filled with the holy spirit, and support the work of god. so farmers -- occasionally native americans are converted. occasionally slaves start standing up in the meetings saying i have a word from god for you. pastors like james davenport say listen to this brother, listen to this sister, he has something to say to us from the lord. there are no social settings anywhere else in colonial america where you will see women, slaves, native americans, standing up and addressing in a somewhat authoritative way white men. it doesn't happen anywhere else. you can understand the critics say this is crazy. you all are nuts. socially disruptive, moving out from religious, this is socially disruptive. the critics say this is a bunch of frenzy, what they call enthusiasm, means you are half crazy. that is what the critics said. it is a bunch of who we, but it doesn't really mean anything. not actually doing anything, critics say love, charity, devotion. what difference does the g

well, six years after i graduated from yale law school, i'd been a lawyer for six years. i by then i became a citizen in 2016. unfortunate year. but i felt very grateful. 22 years after i first landed here. so by that time, i a citizen, i was a lawyer. i've been arguing court for for years. my supervisor calls me and who's this office and this was a supervisor that had seen me stand up in court, had seen me counsel clients, had seen me develop case strategy from the ground up. he calls me into his office. and the minute i look at him, i know coming because i've seen it a million times before. and he says this brief is remarkably well written. who did you copy from? and i had some very, very choice words for him that i will not repeat. i quit that job a few months later and that was when i had it. i have played your game for far too long. i'm going to be me. i'm not to make myself smaller because it fits in your vision of me. i'm not going to make myself smaller to fit in that box that i was trapped in before i could understand what was happening. and that is the reality o

[laughter] you know, yale was sort of the conservative bible college, right? [laughter] in the early 1700s so that we can have an alternative to harvard. okay? almost all the colonial american colleges, the ivy league schools, most of them were founded in the colonial period, and they're almost all founded as colleges for the training of pastors. and almost nobody else goes to college. no women went to college. almost no men went to college in those days. and if you were a man who went to college, it was almost always in the colonial period to become a pastor, okay? so what they saw as a rise in immorality, enlightenment thought, more modern kind of my philosophy and theology, and then a third reason for the sense of crisis, this ongoing war with catholic france and spain and their native american allies. starting in the 1690s, the colonies but especially new england go through a couple of generations of imperial war between britain and the british colonies and then either france or spain. and in new england, the main issue is fighting against the forces of fr

move in a tweet. prime minister yale up, he'd said it was a hasty response. there a fee is for the safety of an iranian climate who competed in south korea without wearing her countries mandatory headscarf. illness break up be reportedly left soul on tuesday, but her whereabouts are now unknown. she has one multiple metals in previous competitions with his decision to forego. the headscarf comes as deadly anti government protests and ran into the 5th week. we can now talk to nick, keen, sheree. hi, an activist for women's rights. what more have you been hearing about this sports person's whereabouts following this event? so right after the game that confiscated her passport, mobile phones was impossible to actually be able to pinpoint where she they moved her from the hotel that they were saying actually the whole team, they moved the whole team from the hotel. but there's the source that says she's been moved to the region embassy. and so there's no way for us to confirm that. what we know that she decided to say do this. even before she went to south korea,

seem to find the reached a deal on that shed border in a break through the israeli prime minister yale up he'd said was historic and unprecedented. lebanon's president own has also welcomed the deal which would paved the way his cash trapped country to begin natural gas expiration. although following israel introduction would likely take years in one israeli coastal town close to the border with lebanon. some people was supportive. and whichever is kim, i think the deal between israel and lebanon is a good one or that will bring peace shalom recall. oh la. sometimes it hurts to compromise. for compromise. brings good for everyone. it's a totally cool em. but others worried who had benefit from lebanese gas. we all know that a lot of it is by law got to have a lot of chunk of, i mean they're gonna take them. i mean, they're gonna, they're commission, they're caught and they're gonna use it to get war rockets, hulma prime minister benjamin netanyahu has, with similar criticism, calling the deal and historic surrender to has ballard. and that could spell disaster for its future with poles

at the beginning of his coming back his grandfather season and that plays out at yale law school and his early years working for then attorney general danforth of missouri. finally he ends up working for reagan and that's his journey back. we tell that story and it's a complicated story both in the book and in the film. but then once he becomes a public conservative black man and he is attacked by the media and he has to battle with the left, that reaches a peak or a first peek at least it's a very contentious confirmation hearing and then on today on the court. tell that story in the book. i should say we , let clarence thomas tell that story. >> you refer to that in the book as the radical years but you also bring up the theme or he brings up a theme of circumstances controlling you rather than you controlling circumstances. and that's something to be employed. >> i think that i think what he ... he would say that he was blessed by having this core upbringing by his grandfather and his son. he would not have been who he is and he constantly is referencing how importantthey are to h

and that plays out over at yale law school in his early years working for then attorney general danforthouri. finally, he ends up voting for and working for reagan and that's his journey back. we tell that story and it's a complicated story in both in the book as in the film. but then once he becomes a public conservative black man and he is attacked by the media and he has his battles with the left and reaches a peak or at least a first peak at least, his contentious confirmation hearing and then on to today to the court. as we tell that story, and the story in the book -- or i should say we let clarence thomas tell the story. >> and you refer to that as the radical years. >> yes. >> awe also bring up the theme, or he brings up the theme of circumstances controlling you rather than you controlling circumstances and that's something to be avoided, he says. >> well, i think that, you know, i think what he -- i think he would say that he was left by having this core upbringing by his grandfather and these nuns, he would not have been who he is without them and he's constantly referencing h

graduate of yale and an m a graduate from the winterthur program at the university of delaware. she also has a bachelors degree from the university of notre dame. and exhibit that ran from 2016 to 2021, created by dr. susan p. schoelwer and her colleagues, led to the creation of an award-winning exhibition entitled lives. lives beyond together, slavery at washington's mount vernon. he's welcome our moderator in our next panel. [applause] >> good, morning everyone. thank you brandon for that very kind introduction. and we are first planning this symposium with the national trust, this was one of the topics that myself and my colleague, matt costello, certainly wanted to include. because we thought it was one of the most important elements of discussion. as brandon said, i'm not a historian, i'm a political scientist. so, i approach these types of topics in a particular type of way. which is always asking how, why and to what effect. i think today we are going to talk about the how, the y and to what effect. we're going to have some terrific stories talk about the historic role of

only alan weinstein was a writer, a yale graduate, yale historian who wrote book perjury about, the alger hiss trial. it was a sensation in its day, the 1970s, because everybody thought he was going to prove that alger hiss was, in fact, and it proved just the opposite. alan weinstein went on to positions. the head of the national archives in washington for many years and then continued to write about the and he wrote about a trial called hidden woods which was also a sensation in about 2000. that came out and that book came out which is part of my which included two critical elements in the alger hiss story. the alger hiss trial that is the venona decrypts. these were soviet cable traffic that army intelligence had gathered during the war. they couldn't read it because it was all in code, but had recorded it. they actually had the transcripts. it took them 20, 25 years to break code. but by the 1990s they'd broken the code and they were able to read masses of cable traffic in the 1990s with the fall of the berlin wall in 1989, there was a soviet scholar who was able for a short period du

paintings, you know, art, football games, even if you consider yale-penn a football game. couldn't make the practice squad. what is it about these people that want to tear things down now. >> i mean, look. i think -- i certainly can't speak for them. but, if i genuinely believed that the world was truly coming to an end in 12 years, sincerely. if i really believed that, then i don't know that any activity could be deemed extreme. i would be all-in to stop it. the real conversation is why do they believe that? who told them that? where is the proof for that? how do we get it into our heads that fossil fuel is the enemy? it's a lot like saying work is somehow the enemy. it's the enemies that have stacked up used to be our friends. and now it's almost as if we are not quite sure who to hate. >> jesse: "the view" does their show at 11:00. late morning. most people are working. i'm going to have -- i don't think they have a real job if they are going to "the view" at 11:00 to disrupt ted cruz and joy. >> here's my advice what they should do at "the view" is get the temperature

only alan weinstein was a writer, a yale graduate, yale historian who wrote book perjury about, the alger hiss trial. it was a sensation in its day, the 1970s, because everybody thought he was going to prove that alger hiss was, in fact, and it proved just the opposite. alan weinstein went on to positions. the head of the national archives in washington for many years and then continued to write about the and he wrote about a trial called hidden woods which was also a sensation in about 2000. that came out and that book came out which is part of my which included two critical elements in the alger hiss story. the alger hiss trial that is the venona decrypts. these were soviet cable traffic that army intelligence had gathered during the war. they couldn't read it because it was all in code, but had recorded it. they actually had the transcripts. it took them 20, 25 years to break code. but by the 1990s they'd broken the code and they were able to read masses of cable traffic in the 1990s with the fall of the berlin wall in 1989, there was a soviet scholar who was able for a short period du