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fierro said he's 300 pounds and he said this guy was bigger. so tackling this man, under any circumstances, even if he wasn't armed and h shooting people, wod have been an impressive feat. but richard fierro was apparently able to grab him and throw him down and that apparently knocked the man's long gund the ar-15 style rifle out of man's reach. mr. fierro said in addition to f the ar-15, he had a handgun as well.n he grabbed the handgun away from the gunman and started hitting him with it. now, since the man was wearing body armor, mr. fierro said he was trying to hit the man whereg he could see and feel that the man wasn't protected by the bodt armor.'t he hit him where he could find skin. he was hitting him with his own gun.it he ended up hitting him in the u head over and over again. he yelled for other club patrons to help him. phi one man was able to help. he grabbed the ar-15 from the man and moved it away to safety. he said one of the drag performers came out and stomped on the gunman with her heels. the whole time richard said he a ke
fierro said he's 300 pounds and he said this guy was bigger. so tackling this man, under any circumstances, even if he wasn't armed and h shooting people, wod have been an impressive feat. but richard fierro was apparently able to grab him and throw him down and that apparently knocked the man's long gund the ar-15 style rifle out of man's reach. mr. fierro said in addition to f the ar-15, he had a handgun as well.n he grabbed the handgun away from the gunman and started hitting him with it....
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for the first time, retired army major richard fierro is speaking out.being hailed as a hero after tackling the gunman and holding him until police arrived. president biden called fierro to thank him for his bravery and his instinct to act. fierro wasn't the only hero-- another patron kicked the gunman in head. and, we're learning more about the condition of the suspect, anderson lee aldrich. the 22-year-old is allegedly not cooperating with police. cbs's janet shamlian will start us off tonight from colorado springs. good evening, janet. >> reporter: norah, good evening., japt. >> reporter: norah, good five lives lost, but tonight, so many more saved, thanks to that army veteran who told us his story, how it was simply instinct for him to put himself in harm's way for the safety of others. richard fierro never expected a war zone would follow him home. >> i wasn't thinking. i just ran over there, got him. "i got to kill this guy-- he's going to kill my kid. he's going to kill my wife." >> reporter: the army veteran, awarded two bronze stars, was at club
for the first time, retired army major richard fierro is speaking out.being hailed as a hero after tackling the gunman and holding him until police arrived. president biden called fierro to thank him for his bravery and his instinct to act. fierro wasn't the only hero-- another patron kicked the gunman in head. and, we're learning more about the condition of the suspect, anderson lee aldrich. the 22-year-old is allegedly not cooperating with police. cbs's janet shamlian will start us off...
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the president offered his thanks and support to veteran richard fierro. now, he stopped the gunman, who police say had just shot and killed five people inside club q saturday. he took down the shooter, grabbing him by his military jacket, pummeling him with the gunman's own weapon. >> i lost my kid's boyfriend. i tried. i tried to help everybody in there. i still feel bad that five people -- there's five people that didn't come home. and this guy, this guy, i told him while i was hitting him, i said i'm going to kill you, man, because you tried to kill my friends. my family was in there. as soon as i got done with that guy and the cop came in, i went across the room and started first aid with my friend who was shot in the chest, in the legs and the arms, and i told her joanne, stay with me, look me in the eye, stay with me. and i moved her head so she wouldn't see her arm because it was shot. and chip was right there, her husband, was reaching for her. so i put her hand in his hand. and that they could be together. i didn't know if they were going to make
the president offered his thanks and support to veteran richard fierro. now, he stopped the gunman, who police say had just shot and killed five people inside club q saturday. he took down the shooter, grabbing him by his military jacket, pummeling him with the gunman's own weapon. >> i lost my kid's boyfriend. i tried. i tried to help everybody in there. i still feel bad that five people -- there's five people that didn't come home. and this guy, this guy, i told him while i was hitting...
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fierro chased him down. he raced across the bar room. the gunman was reportedly wearing body armor, or shapiro says he grabbed the gunman by the handle on the back of the guy's body armor, and pulled him to the floor and then jump on top of him. i want to stop to point out for a second that the suspected gunman is reportedly well over six feet tall and he weighed something on the order of hundred pounds. mr. fierro says he is about 200 pounds and he said this guy is bigger. and that apparently not the man's long gun, that ar-15 style rifle just out of the man 's reach. mr. fierro said that he then saw that in addition to that ar-15, the guy had a hand gun as well. he grabbed the handgun away from the gunman. and started hitting him with it. now, since the man was wearing body armor, mr. fierro says that he was trying to hit the man where he could see and feel that the man wasn't protected by the body armor. he hit him where he could find skin. he was hitting the man with his own gun. canada putting him in the head over and over again. mr
fierro chased him down. he raced across the bar room. the gunman was reportedly wearing body armor, or shapiro says he grabbed the gunman by the handle on the back of the guy's body armor, and pulled him to the floor and then jump on top of him. i want to stop to point out for a second that the suspected gunman is reportedly well over six feet tall and he weighed something on the order of hundred pounds. mr. fierro says he is about 200 pounds and he said this guy is bigger. and that apparently...
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for the first time, retired army major richard fierro is speaking out.tackling the gunman and holding him until police arved. ident n called fierro s bry an fiersn't the only hero. another patron kickee the hd. and wee learning more about e c. the 22-year-old is allegedly not cooperating with police. cbs's janet shamlian will start springs. good evening, janet. >> reporter: norah, good evening. five lives lost. but tonight, so many more saved thanks to that army veteran, who told us his story, how it was simply instinct for him to put himself in harm's way for the safety of others. richard fierro never expected a war zone would follow him home. >> i wasn't thinking. i just ran over there, got him. i got to kill this guy. he's going to kill my kid. he's going to kill my wife. >> reporter: the army veteran awarded two bronze stars was at club q with his wife, daughter, and her boyfriend when the gunman started firing. >> it's a reflex. go. go to the fire. stop the action. stop the activity. don't let no one get hurt. >> reporter: fierro says he grabbed the
for the first time, retired army major richard fierro is speaking out.tackling the gunman and holding him until police arved. ident n called fierro s bry an fiersn't the only hero. another patron kickee the hd. and wee learning more about e c. the 22-year-old is allegedly not cooperating with police. cbs's janet shamlian will start springs. good evening, janet. >> reporter: norah, good evening. five lives lost. but tonight, so many more saved thanks to that army veteran, who told us his...
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and richard fierro is a hero. are we learning about him, the actions he took and also about the victims and the suspect? >> reporter: yeah, lindsey, richard fierro is a decorated army veteran. he did a total of four tours between iraq and afghanistan, and he was at q last night with his daughter and friends, and one of his daughter's friends was supposed to be performing and that's why they were there, and when the gunshots rang out he dropped to the ground and then made the split-second decision to charge the shooter. take a listen. >> i grabbed him by the back of his little cheap-ass armor thing and pulled him down, and i started whaling on this dual and was on top of him, and one of the performers walked by -- or was running by, and i told her, kick this guy, and she took her high heel and stuffed it in his face. >> reporter: fierro is credited, as you mentioned, with saving so many lives. he says he wishes he could have done more. of course, five people tragically died on that night, including the boyfriend of
and richard fierro is a hero. are we learning about him, the actions he took and also about the victims and the suspect? >> reporter: yeah, lindsey, richard fierro is a decorated army veteran. he did a total of four tours between iraq and afghanistan, and he was at q last night with his daughter and friends, and one of his daughter's friends was supposed to be performing and that's why they were there, and when the gunshots rang out he dropped to the ground and then made the split-second...
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richard fierro saved lives when he disarmed. the shooter bureau says he grabbed the gunman and beat him with his own handgun. five people were shot and killed, including the boyfriend of fierros daughter raymond was. it was a great young man who's playing football. he just finished high school. i was trying to figure out how he's gonna, you know, make it in this world. he was debating whether you want to join the military and he took care of my daughter. fierro and his family were at the club to see one of the drag performers whose best friend who was the best friend of fierros daughter remembrance in the south bay for the hundreds of people who died in the city of san jose, while living on the streets today also marks two years since two homeless people were stabbed to death while seeking shelter in a church in san jose ktvu south bay reporter lamonica peters. has more on the memorial and how the church is mourning the victims. for the last five years, the house response group or urge, has held a ceremony displaying these styro
richard fierro saved lives when he disarmed. the shooter bureau says he grabbed the gunman and beat him with his own handgun. five people were shot and killed, including the boyfriend of fierros daughter raymond was. it was a great young man who's playing football. he just finished high school. i was trying to figure out how he's gonna, you know, make it in this world. he was debating whether you want to join the military and he took care of my daughter. fierro and his family were at the club...
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and i want to pick up on the point you were making about fierro. we are getting a bit of clarification. he now says there were actually three people who helped to subdue the shooter. it was him who grabbed the shooter and pulled him to the ground then got on top of him and began hitting him with the shooter's own handgun, but there was a second person that kicked the ar 15 away and helped to beat the suspect. there was a third person wearing high heels. there's a bit of a question at this point about whether that was a performer or just someone at the club wearing high heels who also jumped in and kicking the suspect there. so again, continuing to learn information about what happened as this investigation continues, investigators still here at the crime scene combing that crime scene but keeping very tight lips at this moment about some of the pressing questions that a lot of folks here are wondering about. >> fierro said it was a performer, but thank you for that clarification. it's really hard to sort things out when you're in the heat of the mo
and i want to pick up on the point you were making about fierro. we are getting a bit of clarification. he now says there were actually three people who helped to subdue the shooter. it was him who grabbed the shooter and pulled him to the ground then got on top of him and began hitting him with the shooter's own handgun, but there was a second person that kicked the ar 15 away and helped to beat the suspect. there was a third person wearing high heels. there's a bit of a question at this point...
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raymond greene, vance, the boyfriend of richard fierro's daughter, was one of those murdered.shley paw. the mass murderer will make a first court appearance tomorrow facing five counts of first degree murder and five counts of a bias motivated crime causing bodily injury. joining us now is the governor of colorado, jared polis. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i know this has been a really horrific time for you. what are you telling people of colorado to hold them together during this grieving time? >> first of all, thank you for highlighting richard fierro, and of course thomas james himself, the other hero, currently recovering from gunshot wounds in the hospital. these two men, one active duty, the other, richard fierro, a veteran, we're in the right place at the right time, did the right thing. and if they hadn't, we might be mourning the loss of several dozen people as a result. look, i am really encouraging folks to show love for one another, to come together and support one another. for those who want to financially help, colorado healing fund dot org is on the
raymond greene, vance, the boyfriend of richard fierro's daughter, was one of those murdered.shley paw. the mass murderer will make a first court appearance tomorrow facing five counts of first degree murder and five counts of a bias motivated crime causing bodily injury. joining us now is the governor of colorado, jared polis. thank you so much for joining us tonight. i know this has been a really horrific time for you. what are you telling people of colorado to hold them together during this...
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. >> police say to people who are at the club, thomas james and richard fierro charge the attacker. richard fierro told the new york times how he wrestled away a handgun from the shooter and beat him with it. then, he was able to get more help. telling the paper this. a drag dancer was passing by and missed richard fierro says he ordered her to stop the attacker with her high heels. and just hours ago, richard fierro explain to reporters why he did what he did. >> i got into mode. and i needed to save my family. and that family was, at that time, everybody in that room. i pulled him down. i told him i was hitting him. i want to kill you. i try to save people and it didn't work for five. there are five people who aren't home right now. >> and one of those people was very close to richard fierro, his daughter's boyfriend was one of the five people killed in a shooting. we will have more on the people who lost their lives later in the hour. -- joins us now from colorado springs -- take us there. what are people telling you tonight? >> stephanie, i have been outside the memorial all day
. >> police say to people who are at the club, thomas james and richard fierro charge the attacker. richard fierro told the new york times how he wrestled away a handgun from the shooter and beat him with it. then, he was able to get more help. telling the paper this. a drag dancer was passing by and missed richard fierro says he ordered her to stop the attacker with her high heels. and just hours ago, richard fierro explain to reporters why he did what he did. >> i got into mode....
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joining us, is richard fierro who served three tours in iraq and afghanistan., first of all, thank you so much, thank you for your bravery at that moment. let me ask you how your family is doing. how are you doing? i know it's a very difficult time. as you mentioned, your family lost a loved one that night. how are you coping? >> obviously, it's difficult. i do want to take this time, and i don't know if i have, just to thank everyone. we're completely overwhelmed by everybody's generosity, and just the kind words that people are putting out. i've got it, people have differences of opinions and things like that. but i just hope that it continues to stay positive, there are five people, five families that deserve a positive vibe. and i think that's where i am humbled by what people are doing right now. >> yeah. as the mayor said, you saved many, many lives. and i think that should not be lost on anyone even on this tragedy that we continue to reel from, in this country. who helped you fight the gunman that night? and how did you manage to keep him at bay until a
joining us, is richard fierro who served three tours in iraq and afghanistan., first of all, thank you so much, thank you for your bravery at that moment. let me ask you how your family is doing. how are you doing? i know it's a very difficult time. as you mentioned, your family lost a loved one that night. how are you coping? >> obviously, it's difficult. i do want to take this time, and i don't know if i have, just to thank everyone. we're completely overwhelmed by everybody's...
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but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting.pite his efforts, lawmakers on the local and national level say it should never have happened. and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen , ktvu. fox two news tonight. a man is under arrest after allegedly firing shots inside a bar and palm coast, florida this incident was caught on surveillance video. police say the man became irate. after losing his keys and can be seen pulling his girlfriend off her bar stool. a few men, including a bartender intervened, trying to hold them down until police arrived, and it was during that time when he allegedly pulled a gun and then fired multiple shots. no one was hit. police arrived and arrested the man. he has been charged with aggravated assault and using a firearm well
but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting.pite his efforts, lawmakers on the local and national level say it should never have happened. and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen , ktvu....
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fierro says he plans to see the suspect in court. matt? >> danya bacchus in colorado springs. thank you. >>> a terrifying scene in massachusetts. one person is dead after an suv came crashing through the front window of an apple store. errol barnett has the details. >> reporter: a fast moving suv left this jagged gaping hole in a wall of glass along with at least one fatality and multiple injuries inside this apple store in the small town of hingham. >> i just heard like glass shatter and then everyone ran to the window because they thought it was a smash and grab. >> reporter: emergency crews raced to the wounded, some victims were treated by first responders on the sidewalk. others were trapped. >> there was people covered in blood. >> reporter: authorities say it appears the five passenger vehicle only stopped once it hit the back of the store. >> multiple locations injured out in front of the store and in the store including a few patients that were pinned against the wall by the vehicle. >> reporter: south shore hospital says it received 17 patients in 45 minutes. >> some
fierro says he plans to see the suspect in court. matt? >> danya bacchus in colorado springs. thank you. >>> a terrifying scene in massachusetts. one person is dead after an suv came crashing through the front window of an apple store. errol barnett has the details. >> reporter: a fast moving suv left this jagged gaping hole in a wall of glass along with at least one fatality and multiple injuries inside this apple store in the small town of hingham. >> i just heard...
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but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting.orts, lawmakers on the local and national levels say it should never have happened and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen, ktvu. fox two news. a man is being charged with reckless homicide after crashing his suv through the front window of an apple store yesterday morning in massachusetts. one person was killed and at least 16. others were injured. 53 year old bradley rain was arrested last night and appeared in court today. he told police he was looking for an eyeglass door when his right foot became stuck on the accelerator. he said he used his left foot to try to break but couldn't stop the vehicle crashing through the front of the store. there is a new push in the south bay to give people vaccinated agai
but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting.orts, lawmakers on the local and national levels say it should never have happened and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen, ktvu. fox two news....
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mr fierro also paid tribute to the victims.. 0k? there's five people that aren't home right now. i want those five families to know that's all i care about. the suspect, named by police as 22—year—old anderson lee aldrich, is in custody in hospital. the comfort may offer something to the community affected by this latest act of violence. one of twitter�*s most important charity partners says it is considering ending its relationship with the platform because of the recent policy changes. anti—defamation league says elon musk�*s surprise move to reinstate former president donald trump's account is "dangerous and inconsistent". mr trump's account was suspended in 2021 because of the risk of incitement to violence. nasa's artemis spacecraft has finally arrived at the moon, sweeping 130km above the lunar surface. the spacecraft also sent back an image of the earth. nasa says so far the mission has "exceeded expectations" since last week's launch. here's our science editor rebecca morelle with this report. closing in on the moon. as
mr fierro also paid tribute to the victims.. 0k? there's five people that aren't home right now. i want those five families to know that's all i care about. the suspect, named by police as 22—year—old anderson lee aldrich, is in custody in hospital. the comfort may offer something to the community affected by this latest act of violence. one of twitter�*s most important charity partners says it is considering ending its relationship with the platform because of the recent policy changes....
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for a president to call a fierro a hero was honorable for us. what president it is or any of us to receive a call from a president, it's just an honor. >> how do you feel knowing that the gunmen will appear in court tomorrow and is expected to be formally charged after the appearance? what are your thoughts on what should play out for this government? >> i sometimes i probably shouldn't. i'm kind of going to pull back from all that stuff. bottom line is, the justice department will do what it's got to do. i am going to be an active participant to make sure that raymond receives justice and the other foreign officials receive justice. all 25 injured victims, including my daughter receive justice. that's all i care about. i'm trying not to be eventual person, i am very angry but the justice system needs to do -- i've confidence in that. >> we know that many people and the crowd of club q that night were celebrating transgender day of remembrance, honoring the lives of people killed due to trans violence. in the past year, we have seen a spike in v
for a president to call a fierro a hero was honorable for us. what president it is or any of us to receive a call from a president, it's just an honor. >> how do you feel knowing that the gunmen will appear in court tomorrow and is expected to be formally charged after the appearance? what are your thoughts on what should play out for this government? >> i sometimes i probably shouldn't. i'm kind of going to pull back from all that stuff. bottom line is, the justice department will...
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richard fierro saying that he was just a good kid.is one family that is grieving and struggling with moving forward after this, as many families in this community are doing of the and even as fierro is being hailed a hero here, he's still having to deal with that. and i asked him last night what was going through his mind the moment that he decided to take down that shooter. he told me he was thinking i've got to kill this kid or he's going to kill my kid, my wife, my family. so that's a little bit about his mindset and you mentioned that he's a decorated army veteran. he completed four tours in all in iraq and afghanistan and i also asked him compared to his experience at war, what was saturday night like? he said it was the same thing. it was the same thing except that he chose to go to war, and the victims in this shooting, the people who were at club q on saturday night, did not choose this. chris. >> a chilling distinction. priscilla thompson and paul butler, thank you. we are expecting a statement from officials in the next five
richard fierro saying that he was just a good kid.is one family that is grieving and struggling with moving forward after this, as many families in this community are doing of the and even as fierro is being hailed a hero here, he's still having to deal with that. and i asked him last night what was going through his mind the moment that he decided to take down that shooter. he told me he was thinking i've got to kill this kid or he's going to kill my kid, my wife, my family. so that's a little...
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fierro served 15 years in the army, including four tours in afghanistan and iraq and he told the newk times he went into combat mode and allegedly grabbed a pistol from the gunmen and hit him on the head quote, over and over. this bar was considered a safe space for the lgbtq community and the mayor of colorado springs tonight tell cbs news that the shooting certainly has the trappings of a hate crime. we have a lot of news to get to. we start off from colorado springs. >> reporter: it evening to you. we have new information about the shooting spree here at club q where people were gathering to pay tribute. we are also learning more about those who died, they are two employees, three customers ambushed during a night out. the suspect, 22-year-old anderson lee aldrich will face murder and hate crime charges. investigators say they will file formal charges soon. a man of the same name and age was arrested after a bomb threat near colorado springs last year, but charges were dismissed. this is doorbell video of the man surrendering to police. there is no record. police are family member
fierro served 15 years in the army, including four tours in afghanistan and iraq and he told the newk times he went into combat mode and allegedly grabbed a pistol from the gunmen and hit him on the head quote, over and over. this bar was considered a safe space for the lgbtq community and the mayor of colorado springs tonight tell cbs news that the shooting certainly has the trappings of a hate crime. we have a lot of news to get to. we start off from colorado springs. >> reporter: it...
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fierro was visiting the club with his wife and daughter, and his daughter's boyfriend, raymond greenene notable aspect from fierro 's historic story is that the evening that they had together is a stark rebuttal of the slander and bigotry being aimed at queer people, queer spaces, particularly by the political right, which has been carrying out a monthlong campaign of m-nis and intimidation directly specifically at dragged events and venues, jack shows, which they were taking in. richard fierro story is an example of solidarity and courage under the worst conditions, he took his family to eject show. tim miller is a colorado native, former spokesperson for the rnc, now a writer at large at bullwork?, he joins me now. i think everyone feels incredibly in awe of what fierro did and what the others in that room, it was not limited to him, there were a bunch of people who helped, we don't know all the names yet, but it also does serve as a kind of rebuttal of how this sort of disgusting story that has been told about the kinds of people that would go to a drag show, which has become a kin
fierro was visiting the club with his wife and daughter, and his daughter's boyfriend, raymond greenene notable aspect from fierro 's historic story is that the evening that they had together is a stark rebuttal of the slander and bigotry being aimed at queer people, queer spaces, particularly by the political right, which has been carrying out a monthlong campaign of m-nis and intimidation directly specifically at dragged events and venues, jack shows, which they were taking in. richard fierro...
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fierro served 15 years in the army, including four tours in afghanistan and iraq. and he told "the new york times" that he went into combat mode and allegedly grabbed a pistol from the gunman and hit him in on the head "over and over." this bar was considered a safe space for the l.g.b.t.q. community, and the mayor of colorado springs tonight tells cbs news that the shooting certainly has the trappings of a hate crime. we have a lot of news to get to, and cbs' janet shamlian will start us off from colorado springs. good evening, janet. >> reporter: norah, good evening to you. tonight, we have new information about the shooting spree here at club q where people are gathering to pay tribute. we're also learning more about those who died. they are two employees, three customers, ambushed during a night out. the suspect, 22-year-old anderson lee aldrich, will face murder and hate crime charges. investigators say they will file formal charges soon. >> this is your boy. >> reporter: a man of the same name and age was arrested after a bomb threat near colorado springs las
fierro served 15 years in the army, including four tours in afghanistan and iraq. and he told "the new york times" that he went into combat mode and allegedly grabbed a pistol from the gunman and hit him in on the head "over and over." this bar was considered a safe space for the l.g.b.t.q. community, and the mayor of colorado springs tonight tells cbs news that the shooting certainly has the trappings of a hate crime. we have a lot of news to get to, and cbs' janet shamlian...
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but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting. despite his efforts, lawmakers on the local and national level say it should never have happened and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen , ktvu. fox two news. that attack has renewed concerns and fear in lgbtq communities really all across the country. including in san francisco's castro district, the volunteer group castro community on patrol is passing out flyers and safety whistles. members have been providing regular patrols around the castro for more than 15 years now, but the group is increasing safety efforts, especially at bars and nightclubs. we are putting together an event between now and the holidays to work with the club owners so that they can be more prepared for an active shooter event. and w
but fierro says he feels no joy because five people died in the shooting. despite his efforts, lawmakers on the local and national level say it should never have happened and that more needs to be done to stop the recent uptick of violent hate crimes. we all have to speak out about what this kind of violence does and what it means, and that is not reflective of who we are. shooting suspect remains hospitalized and it is unclear when he will be arraigned in colorado springs. claudia cowen ,...
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last night on cnn fierro recounteding his attempt to stop the slaughter. >> i had to protect my kid. i lost my kid's boyfriend. i tried. i tried for everybody in there. i feel bad some people -- five people that didn't go home. and this [bleep] -- this guy, i told him while i was hitting him, i said i'm going to kill you man, because you tried to kill my friends, my family was in there. >> this morning, this gratitude from club q's owner to the man he credits with saving countless lives. >> you were a big part of saving many more lives and stopping this from being worse than it already was. we applaud you. and i can't wait to give you a big hug. i just can't say thank you enough. i'm just so happy you were there. you're an angel to many people in this community. >> so, nick, listen, i want to talk to you -- >> thank you for what you did. >> let's get out to the scene, colorado springs, rosa flores is there. tell us more. >> reporter: you know, john, just to tell you more about that hero, richard fee arrow, he's a 15 year army veteran, served four tours in iraq and afghanistan, he sai
last night on cnn fierro recounteding his attempt to stop the slaughter. >> i had to protect my kid. i lost my kid's boyfriend. i tried. i tried for everybody in there. i feel bad some people -- five people that didn't go home. and this [bleep] -- this guy, i told him while i was hitting him, i said i'm going to kill you man, because you tried to kill my friends, my family was in there. >> this morning, this gratitude from club q's owner to the man he credits with saving countless...
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. >>> and the president of the united states has called richard fierro and his wife jessica, one of the individuals who tackled that shooter in club q in colorado springs. >>> ana cabrera picks up our coverage right now. >>> hello i'm ana cabrera in new york. thanks so much for joining us. a hero is speaking and a coward isn't. officials tell us the gunman accused of killing five people and injuring more than a dozen others at an lgbtq nightclub in colorado refuses to talk. investigators say even without his cooperation they're looking into whether this was a bias motivated crime, in other words if he acted because of hate, if so he could face hate crime charges. we're told the charges won't be formally filed until the suspected shooter is out of the hospital, however. he's been there since the attack. it appears the suspect was injured by two heroic club goers who took him down, army veteran, richard fierro, said he grabbed onto a loop on the back of a flack jacket the shooter was wearing to pull him to the ground. >> i proceeded to take his other weapon, the pistol and start hitting h
. >>> and the president of the united states has called richard fierro and his wife jessica, one of the individuals who tackled that shooter in club q in colorado springs. >>> ana cabrera picks up our coverage right now. >>> hello i'm ana cabrera in new york. thanks so much for joining us. a hero is speaking and a coward isn't. officials tell us the gunman accused of killing five people and injuring more than a dozen others at an lgbtq nightclub in colorado refuses to...
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seconds later, fierro pouncing. his back was turned? >> yeah, i pulled him down. i know he was landing and there was a pistol on the ground or in his hand. at some point, we both went for it and then i got it. and i used it at any tool you would find. >> reporter: the decorated vet with four tours in iraq and afghanistan thanked today by president biden for his bravery. >> that guy is still alive, and my family is not. i tried. i tried to finish him. >> reporter: fierro's family survived, but his daughter's boyfriend, raymond green vance, among the five killed. 19 others were wounded, including ed sanders, shot in the leg and back. >> it felt crunchy, like a mini explosion. >> reporter: that night, wearing that red velvet suit, he wheeled around to see what hit him. >> it seemed like he was looking at me, but he was shooting wildly. he wasn't pinpointing. >> reporter: tonight, sanders is wounded, but defiant. >> club q, i'm going back there just as soon as they open. i'm not going to be afraid or intimidated. >> determined to return. and we're glad he's going to b
seconds later, fierro pouncing. his back was turned? >> yeah, i pulled him down. i know he was landing and there was a pistol on the ground or in his hand. at some point, we both went for it and then i got it. and i used it at any tool you would find. >> reporter: the decorated vet with four tours in iraq and afghanistan thanked today by president biden for his bravery. >> that guy is still alive, and my family is not. i tried. i tried to finish him. >> reporter:...
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richard fierro served 15 years as an army officer. left the military in 2013 as a major.t of the bronze star. the district attorney in colorado springs says the 22-year-old man accused in the shooting is facing ten preliminary charges, five counts of first degree murder, five counts of bias motivated crimes. the department of justice also now determining whether federal charges will be filed here. joining us now nbc news senior reporter ben collins. so ben, what do we know about the alleged shooter here in terms of his online footprint. if you can't find it, nobody can. you're if the dark corners of the intern. what do we know about this guy. >> there's nothing under his name. for a 22-year-old that's not particularly different than most people. young people now tend to have user names thatch nothing to do with their name, are not traceable to their actual name. we do know he made this bomb threat with his mom in the house. there's video of this. his mom took a facebook live of this happening in realtime. >> this was last year. >> this was last year. and he was let out. h
richard fierro served 15 years as an army officer. left the military in 2013 as a major.t of the bronze star. the district attorney in colorado springs says the 22-year-old man accused in the shooting is facing ten preliminary charges, five counts of first degree murder, five counts of bias motivated crimes. the department of justice also now determining whether federal charges will be filed here. joining us now nbc news senior reporter ben collins. so ben, what do we know about the alleged...
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now by the end of the night, three of fierro's loved ones were shot and one died. we spoke last night about it all. >> i saw the shooter. i had no idea what was going on but i saw him going to the patio area, because i saw a lot of people in the window, it may not have even been a window. but i saw a lot of people and this guy was there and i saw the acu pattern flack vest and for me there is a handle, i'm getting it. so i ran across the room, grabbed the handle and pulled him down and then started to -- actually i think i went for his gun with him. his rifle flew in front of him and the young man that tried to jump in there with me, he -- we poej either pulled him down or whatever but he ended up with his head right next to the ar. and then with the ar, i told him push the ar, get it away from him. the kid pushed the ar, i don't know what his name was. and then i proceeded to take his other weapon, the pistol and then just started hitting him where i could with the arm in the way, but then i found a crease between his armor and his head and just started wailing aw
now by the end of the night, three of fierro's loved ones were shot and one died. we spoke last night about it all. >> i saw the shooter. i had no idea what was going on but i saw him going to the patio area, because i saw a lot of people in the window, it may not have even been a window. but i saw a lot of people and this guy was there and i saw the acu pattern flack vest and for me there is a handle, i'm getting it. so i ran across the room, grabbed the handle and pulled him down and...
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thanks so much. >>> richard fierro we were just discussing there likely saved lives. the former army major is one of two men who took down the shooter saturday night. he was at club q with his wife, daughter and his daughter's boyfriend and family friends. in an interview with cnn he recalls hitting the ground the moment he heard the shots, but then says he immediately went into fight mode. >> i went to the ground, as soon as i heard the rounds, i dove down, i pushed over my friend as best i could and we both hit the ground, me and chip. i put my back against -- i tried to stand up and i fell and then i fell against -- it's like a bench seating and i -- and i -- at that point i saw the shooter. i had no idea what was going on, but apparently i saw him going to the patio area because i saw a lot of people in the window -- it may not have even been a window, but i saw a lot of people and this guy was there and i saw the acu pattern flak vest and for me that was like there's a handle, i'm getting it. so i ran across the room, grabbed the handle, pulled him down and then
thanks so much. >>> richard fierro we were just discussing there likely saved lives. the former army major is one of two men who took down the shooter saturday night. he was at club q with his wife, daughter and his daughter's boyfriend and family friends. in an interview with cnn he recalls hitting the ground the moment he heard the shots, but then says he immediately went into fight mode. >> i went to the ground, as soon as i heard the rounds, i dove down, i pushed over my...
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and so i ran there, and rich fierro's daughter joined me. i didn't know at the time, but once we got inside, i immediately tome them to close and lock the doors, we cut off the light and got down on the ground, and the other person was a drag performer. she immediately got on the phone and called the police. >> let me ask you this question. i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry for what you went through. can you talk about the space? i'm going to take you to a happier place. talk about what this space meant to you and other members of the lgbtq community before it was desecrated this way. >> oh, my god. it was such a happy place. i, you know, i came out when i was like 24, 25. it helped me discover who i was. it helped me discover my love to dance. i became an employee, like, around 2010, 2011, and worked there for about four, 4 1/2, 5 years. i made tons of great friends. it's a very welcoming community. i performed there in drag a few times. they have a show on sundays called crush. and it was open to any and everybody that wanted to perform. it wasn'
and so i ran there, and rich fierro's daughter joined me. i didn't know at the time, but once we got inside, i immediately tome them to close and lock the doors, we cut off the light and got down on the ground, and the other person was a drag performer. she immediately got on the phone and called the police. >> let me ask you this question. i'm so sorry. i'm so sorry for what you went through. can you talk about the space? i'm going to take you to a happier place. talk about what this...
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vance was the boyfriend of richard fierro's daughter. fierro, a decorated army veteran, was one of the two people who tackled and subdued the gunman in the club along with a drag performer who kicked the gunman with her high heels. fierro shared his account of what officials call an incredible act of heroism. >> i wasn't thinking. i just ran over there. got him. i got to kill this guy. he's going to kill my kid, my wife. he ended up killing my daughter's boyfriend. i wish i could have done more. okay. but those people aren't home tonight. i am, and i'm really upset by that. that's not something i'm proud of. >> joining us now with more is nbc correspondent morgan chesky live from colorado springs. good morning. how is the community doing three days after the attack? >> jose, good morning. still a heartbreaking day and time for the lgbtq community here in colorado springs. this memorial grows by the hour and day here. people putting down notes of support, flowers, crosses for those five victims. the club is just a stone's throw from where
vance was the boyfriend of richard fierro's daughter. fierro, a decorated army veteran, was one of the two people who tackled and subdued the gunman in the club along with a drag performer who kicked the gunman with her high heels. fierro shared his account of what officials call an incredible act of heroism. >> i wasn't thinking. i just ran over there. got him. i got to kill this guy. he's going to kill my kid, my wife. he ended up killing my daughter's boyfriend. i wish i could have...
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we heard from fierro and steve patterson. also learning more about one of the other heroic patrons who helped stop this attacker this afternoon. >> reporter: we have learned more information over the last day about the heroes, about the victims. i'd like to focus on the victims and the impact they left behind. we've got photos from law enforcement yesterday as they named the victims. and families wanting these victims to be remembered the way they do. daniel aston and derrick rump were bartenders. the owners saying there were more than employees. they were family members. derrick was known to be endearingly sassi. kelly loving, a 40-year-old trans woman, incredibly caring while ashley paugh left behind an 11-year-old daughter. raymond green was with his family and his girlfriend celebrating. his girlfriend's father is richard fierro. and we are now waiting for more details in terms of the other hero that was with raymond, or excuse me, with richard when it all happened. richard also elaborating there might have been a third p
we heard from fierro and steve patterson. also learning more about one of the other heroic patrons who helped stop this attacker this afternoon. >> reporter: we have learned more information over the last day about the heroes, about the victims. i'd like to focus on the victims and the impact they left behind. we've got photos from law enforcement yesterday as they named the victims. and families wanting these victims to be remembered the way they do. daniel aston and derrick rump were...
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police are given credit to an army veteran, richard fierro , who they say took down the gunmen and saved people's lives. tonight, he told his story to cnn. >> my daughter and wife should never have experienced combat in colorado springs . everybody in that building experienced combat that night, not to their own accord, but because they were forced to. i feel no sorrow for that dude. >> one of the people who was killed was richard fierro's daughter's boyfriend. the suspect is still in the hospital, being held without bail. >>> back to breaking news we mentioned at the top of our broadcast, devin fehely has just gotten to the scene of the stanford shopping center where someone fired into a restaurant. devin, what is going on down there? >> reporter: right now, as you can see behind me, this is the flemings restaurant, it is a steakhouse on the front side of the stanford shopping center. earlier this evening, probably 90 minutes ago or so, there was at least one, possibly two shots fired into that restaurant. according to the palo alto police department, those gunshots were apparently fire
police are given credit to an army veteran, richard fierro , who they say took down the gunmen and saved people's lives. tonight, he told his story to cnn. >> my daughter and wife should never have experienced combat in colorado springs . everybody in that building experienced combat that night, not to their own accord, but because they were forced to. i feel no sorrow for that dude. >> one of the people who was killed was richard fierro's daughter's boyfriend. the suspect is still...
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for army veteran richard fierro, there was no waiting or wondering.h his own family's lives at stake, he decided to take action. >> i just know i got into mode and i needed to save my family, and that family was at that time everybody in that room. >> reporter: it was a battlefield richard fierro couldn't have imagine. a beloved club where he came with his wife, daughter, her boyfriend and friends for a drag show. when the bullets started flying the 15-year army vet who served four combat tours in iraq and afghanistan felt instincts kick in. >> it's a reflex. go. go to the fire. stop the action. stop the activity. don't let no one get hurt. >> reporter: charging through the chaos, fierro said he tackled the gunman who was wearing full body armor, knocking a rifle out of his hands, then wrestling away a handgun, using it to beat the shooter. he says he even enlisted the help of a drag performer at the club. >> i told her, kick this guy. kick this guy. she took her high heel and stuffed it in his face. >> reporter: but fierro wasn't able to save his dau
for army veteran richard fierro, there was no waiting or wondering.h his own family's lives at stake, he decided to take action. >> i just know i got into mode and i needed to save my family, and that family was at that time everybody in that room. >> reporter: it was a battlefield richard fierro couldn't have imagine. a beloved club where he came with his wife, daughter, her boyfriend and friends for a drag show. when the bullets started flying the 15-year army vet who served four...
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and richard fierro was why she but his protective instincts but nobody's and doing a night with theirriends and families to go have to go into combat mode in the united states of america. that is not the country i grew up in. it is the country the pages and this institution but they bear a burden i never had growing up in the united states but then to be in a bar or the one safe place in their community they could go? not car accidents or drugs, but guns. the united states accounted for 97 percent of fair beds accounted for 97 percent and younger. that is almost 100 percent of the kids that are dying are from gunfire and who are four years old and younger. what a disgrace and then to go to the grocery store it was just last year. but then to have a list of names of people who lost their livesand we are reminded once again and just how much work is left to do. gave our children the safe and accepting future that theye deserve. that they want to have and then we're obligated to give them we have not finished that work in the united states senate. earlier this year the supreme court stri
and richard fierro was why she but his protective instincts but nobody's and doing a night with theirriends and families to go have to go into combat mode in the united states of america. that is not the country i grew up in. it is the country the pages and this institution but they bear a burden i never had growing up in the united states but then to be in a bar or the one safe place in their community they could go? not car accidents or drugs, but guns. the united states accounted for 97...
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fierro was there to watch a drag show with his wife, his daughter, and raymond green vance -- who was his daughter's boyfriend. >> i want those five families to know that's all i care about. i want those in the hospital to get better. please, get better. we went to see a show and have a good time and thank god raymond was smiling and my daughter got to spend his last day with him happy. amy: richard fierro was deployed to iraq and afghanistan four times and said in an interview with "the new york times" the experience still haunts him. he left the army in 2013 due to the brutal psychological and physical toll of war and said he ever thought he would experience the same violence at home. in pennsylvania, immigrant rights advocates welcomed a second bus full of asylum seekers in philadelphia monday morning, sent by texas republican governor greg abbott. abbott says -- sent at least 13,500 asylum seekers to sanctuary cities, including washington, d.c., and new york. since abbott was re-elected in november he's intensified his hate speech against immigrants, recently comparing the arrival
fierro was there to watch a drag show with his wife, his daughter, and raymond green vance -- who was his daughter's boyfriend. >> i want those five families to know that's all i care about. i want those in the hospital to get better. please, get better. we went to see a show and have a good time and thank god raymond was smiling and my daughter got to spend his last day with him happy. amy: richard fierro was deployed to iraq and afghanistan four times and said in an interview with...
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richard fierro and thomas james. james, who is still hospitalized released his first statement sunday, saying, if i had my way, i would shield everyone i could from the nonsensical acts of hate in the world. at fierro's brewery, customers are waiting for hours in line to show their gratitude. >> we are overwhelmed by the love and support everyone is giving us, and we feel it. >> reporter: today survivors of other mass shootings pushed to get donated money flowing to victims. >> the money can help give the restart that all victims need. >> reporter: after the violence, hope to heal. danya bacchus, cbs news, los angeles. >> the recent mass shootings has congressional democrats re-igniting their push for gun control legislation. president biden returned to washington this evening. the president has said he'll try to move on stricter gun laws before the year is over. cbs' nancy cordes has the very latest on this. nancy, good evening to you. >> good evening, jericka. yeah, the issue is important enough to the president th
richard fierro and thomas james. james, who is still hospitalized released his first statement sunday, saying, if i had my way, i would shield everyone i could from the nonsensical acts of hate in the world. at fierro's brewery, customers are waiting for hours in line to show their gratitude. >> we are overwhelmed by the love and support everyone is giving us, and we feel it. >> reporter: today survivors of other mass shootings pushed to get donated money flowing to victims....
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his name is richard fierro. a drag performer used her heels to help him.e going to hear from richard in a short time. >>> also we're learning the names of the five souls taken too soon and who they were and the people who loved them. rosa flores live in colorado springs. rosa, good morning to you. what are the new details you're learning? >> reporter: good morning, don, i want to share the names of the victims, raymond green vance, according to his family, he's described as being kind, gifted and willing to go out of his way for anyone. kelly loving, her sister tiffany her sister was a good person, loving and sweet. ashely paugh, her husband said she had a huge heart. and daniel aston, his family saying he moved to colorado springs to be closer to his family. and derick rump, i talked to a survivor who said derrick to give him a ride home. and we're also hearing the names of those who saved countless lives. >> everybody in that building, spares comment not to their own accord because they were forced to. >> reporter: richard fierro served four combat zones
his name is richard fierro. a drag performer used her heels to help him.e going to hear from richard in a short time. >>> also we're learning the names of the five souls taken too soon and who they were and the people who loved them. rosa flores live in colorado springs. rosa, good morning to you. what are the new details you're learning? >> reporter: good morning, don, i want to share the names of the victims, raymond green vance, according to his family, he's described as being...
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the drag show included a performance by a friend of pharaoh's daughter, fierro, who served tours in iraq and afghanistan says he went into combat mode when shots rang out and i needed to save my family. and that family was at that time. everybody in that room 22 year old suspect remained hospitalized overnight. he faces murder and hate crime charges. police say he stormed into the club and opened fire, killing five and injuring many others. well, i'm still in shock survivor ed sanders was shot in the back and leg. he says he and drag queen wyatt can't try to help a woman who was badly wounded after she fell on top of kent. she was not breathing very well, and we were trying to encourage her to breathe and stay with us. she was on my legs. and i could hear her moaning. she saved my life and she passed away on top of me. authorities have now identified all five people killed. raymond green, vance, ashlee, paul kelly loving derek rump and daniel aston. last night, the colorado interfaith community holding a vigil for the victims will not let hate push us back into the shadows. i am too old.
the drag show included a performance by a friend of pharaoh's daughter, fierro, who served tours in iraq and afghanistan says he went into combat mode when shots rang out and i needed to save my family. and that family was at that time. everybody in that room 22 year old suspect remained hospitalized overnight. he faces murder and hate crime charges. police say he stormed into the club and opened fire, killing five and injuring many others. well, i'm still in shock survivor ed sanders was shot...
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seconds later, fierro pouncing. >> i grabbed him by the back of this little, cheap armor thing, and i pulled him down. i grabbed the pistol from him. and i'm on top of him. i'm a big dude, man, and this guy was bigger. and i just kept wailing. he's trying to get his ammo, his guns. >> reporter: the decorated vet with four tours in iraq and afghanistan thanked today by president biden for his bravery. >> that guy is still alive, and my family is not. i tried. i tried to finish him. >> reporter: his family survived, but his daughter's boyfriend, raymond green vance, among the five killed. 19 others were wounded, including ed sanders, shot in the leg and back. explosion. crunchy, like a mini- >> reporter: that night, wearing that red velvet suit, he wheeled around to see what hit him. >> it seemed like he was looking at me, but he was shooting wildly. he wasn't pinpointing. >> reporter: tonight, sanders is wounded, but defiant. >> club q, i'm going back there just as soon as they open. i'm not going to be afraid or intim intimidated. >> determines to return. and we're glad he's going to
seconds later, fierro pouncing. >> i grabbed him by the back of this little, cheap armor thing, and i pulled him down. i grabbed the pistol from him. and i'm on top of him. i'm a big dude, man, and this guy was bigger. and i just kept wailing. he's trying to get his ammo, his guns. >> reporter: the decorated vet with four tours in iraq and afghanistan thanked today by president biden for his bravery. >> that guy is still alive, and my family is not. i tried. i tried to finish...
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you heard from fierro and he mentioned his daughter's boyfriend who was just 22 years old. and we're also learning about the other lives that were cut short. >> kelly loving was visiting colorado springs from her home in denver. a close friend said that kelly had been a resource for other trans women. and 28-year-old daniel aston was a bar supervisor. and he worked with derrick rump. he also tended bar. and a co-worker said that they both had big hearts, family members say that ashley paugh also had a huge heart and her 11-year-old daughter was her whole world. last hour colorado attorney general told me that the suspect should face hate crime charges in an acknowledgement of all those impacted by the attack. the slain and those who survived. >> my prosecuting this as a hate rhyme, we are honoring the victims who were victimized because of who they are. and that is something that colorado is committed to protecting everyone's right to live as their best authentic self. so even if there is not an additional sentence consequence, we believe from a message and from honoring th
you heard from fierro and he mentioned his daughter's boyfriend who was just 22 years old. and we're also learning about the other lives that were cut short. >> kelly loving was visiting colorado springs from her home in denver. a close friend said that kelly had been a resource for other trans women. and 28-year-old daniel aston was a bar supervisor. and he worked with derrick rump. he also tended bar. and a co-worker said that they both had big hearts, family members say that ashley...
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richard fierro was at club q with his wife, daughter, and friend when the shooting began. that is when he jumped into action, pinning the gunman and grabbing his pistol while instructing others to grab the weapon. he says one drag queen pummeled the shooter with her heels. while he likely saved many lives, her daughters -- his daughter's boyfriend was one of those killed. >> there are five people i cannot help, one of which was family to me. i'm not excited. that guy is still alive and my family is not. jobina: the 22-year-old suspect faces murder and hate crime charges. this video shows his arrest last year when he was accused of making bomb threats towards his own mother. the case was dismissed because his family refused to operate. the suspect was due in court yesterday but the da says his injuries were so significant he had to stay in the hospital. reggie: people who live and work in san francisco's castro district are still struggling to process that deadly shooting. for those who run the numerous bars and nightclubs in the area at the colorado springs attack does hit
richard fierro was at club q with his wife, daughter, and friend when the shooting began. that is when he jumped into action, pinning the gunman and grabbing his pistol while instructing others to grab the weapon. he says one drag queen pummeled the shooter with her heels. while he likely saved many lives, her daughters -- his daughter's boyfriend was one of those killed. >> there are five people i cannot help, one of which was family to me. i'm not excited. that guy is still alive and my...
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i get it, they're trying to sort out what they're doing. >> fierro served 15 years as an army officer and left the military in 2013 as a major. he is a two-time recipient of the bronze star, and a hero once again. let's turn to politics now, with georgia's senate runoff election just 15 days away, one person you may not see on the campaign trail, former president donald trump. where voters largely rejected trump-backed candidates, rolling stone is reporting that some allies of the former president are urging him to stay out of the georgia race. but given that, the republican candidate on the ballot herschel walker was handpicked by trump himself, the former president may have a difficult time watching from the sidelines. trump has reportedly told aides his presence will be a positive for walker. and dismissed those who say otherwise. one person who is definitely going to georgia, barack obama, the former president who remains almost unquestionably the most popular figure in the democratic party, will campaign for incumbent democratic senator raphael warnock days before the runoff. on
i get it, they're trying to sort out what they're doing. >> fierro served 15 years as an army officer and left the military in 2013 as a major. he is a two-time recipient of the bronze star, and a hero once again. let's turn to politics now, with georgia's senate runoff election just 15 days away, one person you may not see on the campaign trail, former president donald trump. where voters largely rejected trump-backed candidates, rolling stone is reporting that some allies of the former...
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because i'm not richard fierro. richard fierro is a 15-year veteran. he is a big guy.d he has that kind of metal where he ran towards the guy with the weapon of war. i, five foot three alisyn, can crawl into a very tight ball, very small. and i can hide more easily than richard fierro. so, it's just hard -- first of all, like you say, i can't believe we have to have this conversation. >> it's our third conversation. >> but we have to have our conversation, because it's gone through all our heads. isn't it just, you know, whatever you are capable of doing? >> it's both. so, i -- what's the alternative, right? it's both situational and personal. and so, you know, in these instances where you have a former vet who happens to be there. but thank god, is willing to go forward. we've seen other instances where members of the public who don't have that kind of training are able to disarm or basically what we call it is you take the fight to the shooter. in other words, if you're able to distract them, what you are trying to do is buy time. that is what these guns have not giv
because i'm not richard fierro. richard fierro is a 15-year veteran. he is a big guy.d he has that kind of metal where he ran towards the guy with the weapon of war. i, five foot three alisyn, can crawl into a very tight ball, very small. and i can hide more easily than richard fierro. so, it's just hard -- first of all, like you say, i can't believe we have to have this conversation. >> it's our third conversation. >> but we have to have our conversation, because it's gone through...
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course, now we know the names of two heroes that authorities saved countless lives, that's richard fierroand thomas james. and fierro is the army veteran who said his instincts simply kicked in. >> rosa, i want to ask you, we're told by investigators that he's not cooperating or speaking to investigators. what do we know about the investigation into the shooter this morning? >> reporter: well, the investigation is ongoing, according to the district attorney, formal charges have not been filed yet. but the shooter is -- the suspected shooter is being held pending possible charges. multiple, at this point, the d.a. saying possibly five first degree murder charges. and five hate crimes. now, the district attorney says that all of those are possible charges. but that, don, as you know, once formal charges are filed, he asked, those charges could grow, because not only are five people dead in this case, there's also at least 19 others who were injured. >> rosa flores, thank you very much this morning. poppy. >> well, this deadly shooting has raised a lot of questions, i think rightly so about
course, now we know the names of two heroes that authorities saved countless lives, that's richard fierroand thomas james. and fierro is the army veteran who said his instincts simply kicked in. >> rosa, i want to ask you, we're told by investigators that he's not cooperating or speaking to investigators. what do we know about the investigation into the shooter this morning? >> reporter: well, the investigation is ongoing, according to the district attorney, formal charges have not...