northern command which is a warfighting command under donaldum rumsfeld and 9/11 his whole mission was to protect the united states of america the land space in the airspace in the sea space. northern command started planning for that operation based on the suggestion by a staffer at the white house to do so and u.s. secretary of defense and the chairman of the joint chiefs didn't know about it. tell me about that situation but that should worry us that one of our warfighting command would be acting on the direction that didn't come from the secretary of defense. >> i recount the story where the story were in an oval office and steve miller speaks up from behind me w and says we need to send a quarter million troops to the border to deal with the caravan from central america. i don't have a quarter million troops. he suggested they were working on it and i came back to the pentagon and told general millie aside and i said just make sure nothing goes on to our surprise and i figured it was layers below thee commander. for all they knew was guidance from the white house. i don't know exa

. >> and we were talking how donald rumsfeld went to kabul to declare that was over so to some extentt for me to defend the american people which i do but those politicians tell them something union major combat operations were not over americans are fighting and dying that they were making it more politically palatable. >> there is a lot of blame to go around and verbal jujitsu of how they speak about war which is wishful thinking. i write about this in the book but what i think we have screwed up as a nation is we have a short-term psychology causing us to fight a long-term more. - - war . . . . use of the american war. if you walked aroundh afghanisn through many of these intervals the soviets also occupied in their time which was half of our stime there, you note the sovit billings are still there. they're built of concrete, stone, so this idea that we built plywood was very predictable. we are not imperialists we are not going to be here don't worry. were going to be out the door before you know it and you'll have your country back. that type of short-term psychology, it leads yo

secretary james schlesinger and even folks like donald rumsfeld and -- cheney. who all were given special instructions for evacuation and in an emergency the pre-assigned ps3 teams would report to different bunkers command posts and continuity facilities to be ready to serve a presidential successor. so when someone like a commerce secretary or agriculture secretary would arrive at an emergency site he or she would find a white house staff and government already in waiting including an experienced leader like don rumsfeld or -- cheney already selected and in position as their chief of staff designee. a full records of the ps3 program will be declassified in the years ahead and we have no idea whether there's a similar program that exists today, but this problem of how you prepare a successor to assume the presidency not in a theoretical sense, but in an immediate sense when minutes and hours matter is one that our government is still wrestling with today a third generation of doomsday staffers are settling into life inside these bunkers many of which are still r

ra trashing all corporations n 20 years and we were talking back there about how in 2003 donald03 rumsfeldt to kacial and declared major combat operations over it. so to some extent it's not -- far be it to defend american people but i do but they're politicians arere telling them something that's like you knew that major combat operations wngt over americans were still fighting and dying over there but our politicians were doing this verbal to kind of make it more politically pallettable by not calling a war. >> like there's a lot. there's a lot of blame to go around after -- 0 years of war and what politician dos with regards to how they speak about war and sort off wishful thinking around war. iun think one of the -- i write about this in the book like one of the things we really i think have scriewtd up as a nation and we've done this in success of wars is we have the wrong side, we have a short-term psychology and our short-term psychology causes us to fight a very long-term war. and what i mean to give you a visual representation. if you were to go to at any point in the war if you w

back an invasion if they would back something that you know, sort of was in the dreams of donald rumsfeld, some small tactical force. i'm heavy air bombardments, the american people haven't felt the effects of war. most americans don't even know veterans anymore. you know, we have such a small percentage of the population serving in the military. so will it be sort of a rally around the flag a moment for the u. s. that i'm not sure about because there are sections of both political factions and wings that don't want that are, you know, against intervention and against regime change. but ultimately, war is a big business and the military industrial complex and their shareholders, which are a lot of the major financial firms and investment portfolios of many americans ah, will be craving, ah, you know, seeing their bumps stockpiles dwindle as they're used overseas. so what we see the type of invasion that we saw in afghanistan or in iraq. i don't think so, but we, could we see tactical strikes that lead to a much smaller scale conflict that's mostly done. ah, you know, by air, we could see

donald rumsfeld was filed, the secretary of defense. bush listened to the electorate. there is no problem with that in the past. there seems to be no leadership changes in the pipeline for the biden administration. the year was 2010. barack obama took full responsibility for the shellacking his party endured during the mid terms. he united his party and sailed to reelection in 2012. how will no changes for the american people pan out. joining me, governor sununu. there was no red wave. are you befuddled there is going to be no change? >> no. even if there was a red wave, president biden wasn't going to change. the democrat establishment, the liberal elite in warn ha -- in washington have no respect for joe biden. they only want him to be a political tool for the radical left wing agenda. i don't think he will be running in 2024. they will be using him to drive a left wing agenda and claim a victory for democrats. this wasn't a victory for democrats. it's likely the republicans take control of the u.s. senate. we had extreme democrat seats flip over to moderate republic

. >> and we're talking dow 30 donald rumsfeld went in and declared major operations over. far be it from me to defend the american people which i do, but their politicians are selling them something that you knew that major combat operations weren't over and americans were still fighting and dying there, but our politicians were doing this verbal jujitsu and politicians were not calling it a war. >> there's a lot of blame to go around after 20 years of war and there's a lot of verbal jujitsu that politicians do with regards to how they speak about war and wishful thinking around war, but i think we're finding one of the -- i write about this a little in the book. one of the things we really have screwed up as a nation and done this in successive wars, we have-- we have a short-term psychology and our short-term psychology causes us to fight a very long-term war and you know, what i mean by that-- or to give you a visual representation. if you were to go to the an any point of the war, if you were to go to kabul or to kandahar, sort of like bagram air base, major nerve cent

and we were talking back there about how in 2003, donald rumsfeld went to kabul and declared major, major combat operations over. so so to some extent, it's it's not i you know, far be it for me to defend the american people, which i do. but like their politicians are telling something that's like you knew that major combat operations weren't over. people were still americans were still fighting and dying over there. but our politicians were doing this sort of verbal jujitsu to kind of make it more politically palatable by not calling it a war. yeah, there's a lot i mean, there's a lot of blame to go around after 20 years of war. and there's a lot of verbal jujitsu that politicians do with regards to how how they speak about war and sort of wishful thinking around war. i think what was i think one of the you i write about this a little bit in the book. like one of the things we really i think has screwed up as a nation and we've done this in successive wars is we have the wrong the wrong side? we have a short psychology and the short our short term psychology causes us to a very long term

so here we are march 10 rainy monday a spring and washington talking to his chief of staff don rumsfeld were in the background as a fellow by the name of john percy. john is a pulitzer prize winning novelist, journalist she's working for the "new york times" magazine and they asked ford for permission to follow him for a week during his presidency. president ford agreed to that the object was to write a lengthy story about gerald ford because they said americans are more about the president. the polling that was being done inside ford's own sense confirmed just what the magazine was asserting. they needed to be better known by the american people. he was well known in the beltway on capitol hill and his district would we go to the next slide where he had run for office in 1948. i notice the image on the left of ford leaning in their work dungarees, he talking to them one of the things that came to be known very well about gerald ford. much of which they already knew he was well known in grand rapids. i was in his district as a hard worker, a straight shooter, no pretense about him. he w

rumsfeld and to see all that time that it along the afghan pakistan border with special ops. i was in the small afghan villages were 20-year-old captains were essentially mayors of these little villages trying to get girls to go to school and set up a water system and they did. amazing things were happening. i think we have written off a lot more then new original mission at how we got out and not would we get out that how we got out his sad anything former defense secretary gates on "60 minutes," i'd be remiss if i didn't say our condolences to the powell family and the loss of powell this week. he was a great, great man and he was larger than life when it came to washington but the stories that i have from researching reagan as his initial security adviser and i will just tell one very quickly and that is touring moschetto the final summit and family coming to the end where they are going to make the final deal and gorbachev keeps on saying there'll be a peaceful coexistence and we are going to add this paragraph that no interrupting internal affairs peaceful coexistence an

cheney or rumsfeld? which cheney is a good one. good one. heroes or villains. yeah, let's move on, shall we? come on. next month trump or bannon? in what way? like do i like more. you could person. well it's you know this or that list or a way to get you to move fast through the content so that we can get at some of the other issues but part of this was about trying to get you to know you a little bit. the last one was new york times are wapo huh. i could talk about that yeah. what are the differences there? i mean, the new york times is bigger and more powerful. and the post would say is nimbler and, you know, mean. they both have a lot of great people at them. i, you know, i, i think that when it comes doing like the for the ages coverage, that's probably at the times but i think that you know day to day a lot of times the post is more engaging and more interesting interesting. and when it comes the the day to day which you the beginning talked about how important that was for reconstructing the timeline that you put into book. how did your memoir develop day

rumsfeld and to see all that time that it along the afghan pakistan border with special ops. i was in the small afghan villages were 20-year-old captains were essentially mayors of these little villages trying to get girls to go to school and set up a water system and they did. amazing things were happening. i think we have written off a lot more then new original mission at how we got out and not would we get out that how we got out his sad anything former defense secretary gates on "60 minutes," i'd be remiss if i didn't say our condolences to the powell family and the loss of powell this week. he was a great, great man and he was larger than life when it came to washington but the stories that i have from researching reagan as his initial security adviser and i will just tell one very quickly and that is touring moschetto the final summit and family coming to the end where they are going to make the final deal and gorbachev keeps on saying there'll be a peaceful coexistence and we are going to add this paragraph that no interrupting internal affairs peaceful coexistence an

office desk, which he has occupied for seven months by this point, talking to his chief of staff, don rumsfeld. in the background, sitting in the -- is john hershey. he has that -- a poll surprise winning novelist and journalist. he's working for the new york times magazine, and the magazine had asked permission from fort to follow him for a week during his presidency. president ford has agreed to that, the object was to write a lengthy story in the new york times magazine about gerald ford because, they said, america needs to know more about their president. the polling that was going on inside the ford administration at this time, and for its own since, confirms just what the magazine was asserting, that ford needed to be better known by the american people. he was well known inside the beltway, on capitol hill, and in his fifth district. if we go to the next slide -- where he had run for office in 1948, and i love this image on the left of forward leaning against a tractor tire, talking to the three farmers. they, in their work degrees, he in his lawyer suit. it's one of those things that t

. >> i hate to tell you about how many -- not to sound like donald rumsfeld, known unknowns right nowre is the situation. masto is ahead by 23,000 votes right now. what we don't know is how many mail ballots remain to be counted in clark county, which you know is 70% of the vote. it's where the democrats always do well. they especially do well in mail ballots. if there are enough mail ballots -- some people think -- this is coming from both sides. if you look at the turnout, it's probably true. there may be as many as 100,000 mail ballots to be counted. the democrats generally have won the mail ballots in clark by two to one. it's not over yet here in nevada. i know what the next question is. let me help you out. when will we know? the answer to that question -- >> anchor yourself through the segment. take it. >> so, listen, we may not have any numbers today. the county election department here in clark county, which is las vegas, is supposed to update us later this morning, maybe closer to noon. maybe they will tell us how many ballots there are. they're not going to be done counting

a white house staff and government already in waiting, including an experienced leader like don rumsfeldor dick cheney, already selected and in position as their chief of staff designate. the full records of the ps3 program will be declassified in the years ahead, and we have no idea where there is a similar program that exists today. but this problem of how you prepare a successor to assume the presidency, not in a theoretical sense, but in an immediate sense, when minutes and hours matter, is one that our government is still wrestling with. today, a third generation of doomsday staffers are settling into life inside these bonkers, many of which still remain staffed 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, in the wake of 9/11. and while some new facilities have been built since 9/11, the majority of our governments plans to preserve itself and our nation during an attack in the 21st century still rely on plans developed during an era where slide rulers existed as some of the most advanced technology available to the planners. thanks very much. >> thank you very much, mister graff. >> doctor lub

wall so involved and the us northern command, which is one of the in commands established by don rumsfeld after 9/11 whose whole mission is to protect the united states of america the land space the airspace some of the sea space northern command actually started planning for that operation based on a suggestion by a staffer at the white house at no authority to do so and you as secretary of defense and in the chairman of the joint chiefs didn't know about it. tell me a little bit about that situation. that should worry us that that one of our warfighting commands would be acting on goddess and direction that didn't come from the secretary of defense. well, yeah, i recount this story where i'm in the oval office and stephen miller speaks up from behind me and says, you know, we need to send a quarter million troops to the border to deal with caravans coming up from from central america, and i think he's joking i turn around he presses again and i say i don't i don't have a quarter million troops to deal with that nonsense, you know dhs can handle it and he suggested they were working on i

it's that their existence and of course, everybody starts yelling george bush and cheney and rumsfeld. it's like, no, it's john f kennedy. i mean, we live in that kind of world now. in 19, i would argue that 1983 is what this feels like to me, that 2022 feels like 1983. not that there's a forcing function and a clock running and the sands are running out, but this kind of growing tension that feels like an inevitability of conflict somewhere along the line over something we're not sure of yet. if you back to 1983 and just look at that one year, early 1983, ronald reagan announces the strategic defense initiative, which drives the kremlin nuts. the kremlin already decided at the end of jimmy. this is going to for those of you that think there's a big difference between jimmy carter and ronald reagan in this period in history, the kremlin had already decided at the end of carter's administration that the americans had lost their mind and were spoiling for nuclear war. the former soviet ambassador in his memoirs said, we were actually kind of rooting for reagan to win and i'm quoting her

rumsfeld's comment. danger of escalation is implicit. danger of accidents.he reason you don't want to fly off the handle. when stuff happens, just get the facts, and make sure you're responding to something that was actual, and possible intention. you don't want an invertant escalation. >> a little bit of a lesson when something hot is going on. >> and even if the president of the united states said this was probably not an attack, why were ukrainian officials get so out there saying it was? >> look, you're on thin ice, but ukraine longing for an ever-stronger western response. they're fighting this war alone and the idea they could bring in, if you will, partners more directly has been a ukrainian goal from the get-go. doesn't surprise me, but again, i don't think it serves their purposes because it will reinforce the sense that there's perhaps some gap between nato or western interests and ukrainian interests and i don't think that's something that the ukrainians want to open up, because that gets you into the whole negotiation, more termination goals and

information about what al qaeda is and isn't doing, so we always have to be mindful of secretary rumsfeldsaid and we are very concerned about al qaeda and isis and the ability to inspire attacks even from over there so those are a few points. >> thank you. secretary? >> i think the point that my colleagues have made underscores the broader point that we've spoken about the evolving threats but we should keep in mind that the threats of the past remain the of the present. i want to move on to a different topic. every week a drug seizure makes headlines but the flow in southwest border is unrelenting. the drugs dhs seizes for a fraction of the total of the criminal organizations attempt to smuggle into the country. what specific steps is dhs taking to stem the flow of the drugs crossing the border and what additional resources are you using to address this problem and what additional resources do you need? >> it is a fact the smugglers seek to transport controlled substances, illegal drugs into the united states primarily through the ports of entry, through trucks, vehicles and the like. we