this is the same terry duffey that called bs on john core sfwlien years before that.n knows of what he speaks and should not be discounted his testimony i'm sure was a sworn testimony and he is not a liar no reason to lie nor would he do it in front of congress. >> not only that the exchange is bringing could bring to digital asset, this is where the cme will play a major role this is what they do they provide risk management, provide a framework, provide accountability, provide rules and i think that's -- the exchange we watched with ro khanna there were two different languages being spoken especially when a guy who does this for a living was being asked to opine on what risks are whether you don't have this kind of a framework and that's what cme could do. >> yeah. steve? >> yeah, i think it's, you know, maybe i'll choose my words less wisely than guy. there was a lot of money spread around washington and it sounds like people bought into this idea because they had a tremendous amount of donations sprinkled their way. and congress is always pointing their gun at pra