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former prosecutor glenn kirschner, they are both msnbc legal analysts. and barbara mcquade, let me begin with you. finally, after free -- finally dismissing the case, isn't exactly the same point that federal prosecutors up from the start -- jurisdiction to be going anywhere near anything involving the documents seized by the fbi. >> yeah. it's gratifying to see this case finally reach adjust conclusion. it's interesting. you know, it took a reversal by the 11th circuit court of appears for how she really had no choice in the end but to dismiss the case. it was also gratifying to see donald trump not appeal this to either the full membership of the 11th circuit, or to the supreme court, which would've only further delayed things. but apparently, he saw the writing on the wall, didn't used to appeal, and judge cannon said the only thing she could do here. i think sometimes, judges are reversed on appeal all the time. reasonable minds can disagree about things, but the thing that was most troubling about her initial opinion that she went so far as to say t

always glenn kirschner, jill wine-banks, and jennifer rubin. thanks joining us! all right, coming up! if you are on twitter last night you watch in realtime as elon musk suspended journalist after journalist. many of whom who have appeared on our shows who have been reporting on elon musk changes to the platform. and what's have more on how the future of what it comes down to the whims of elon musk and how is critical failure to understand the first amendment could further erode democracy in this country. getrefunds.com can see if it may qualify for a payroll tax refund of up to $26,000 per employee, even if it received ppp, and all it takes is eight minutes to get started. then we'll work with you to fill out your forms and submit the application, that easy. and if your business doesn't get paid, we don't get paid. getrefunds.com has already helped businesses like yours recover over $2 billion, but it's only available for a limited time. go to getrefunds.com powered by innovation refunds. even when things seem quieter, the urge to protect means staying on the lo

department glenn kirschner, i want to ask you about something else on the legal front, away from thisand i have talked about many times in the past, one of the releases from the january six committee transcripts in which former white house communications director, donald trump, alyssa farah griffin, says jared kushner stopped the covid task force from cooperating with the biden transition team. he just said, no, absolutely not, is the exact quote. can there ever be accountability for trump and kushner and others in that administration who were -- what else do you call it? negligent, i think, is an understatement, in their handling of covid and they're allowing people to die. >> there can be, mehdi, if any of the prosecutors in any of the 50 states, the district of columbia or the territories choose to present to the grand jury a case of involuntary manslaughter, as you and i have discussed. all it takes is three things. three elements that trump, kushner and or others acted in a grossly negligent way, that they are gross negligence was reasonably likely to result in death or serious b

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and glenn kirschner is also back with.david, he said some of these crimes are simple enough for a jury to understand. break down some of the brazen tax -- you've identified in this analysis? >> well, in 1984 donald trump was audited by the state of new york. and found to have a quote unquote, consulting business. which had no revenue. he took over $600,000 of expenses. auditors disallowed. as trump demanded a trial. he not only was found by both judges, state and city. to have engaged in civil tax fraud. but this put him on notice. that what he was doing, creating a fictitious business, that has no revenue and takes big deductions, was not allowed. yet he did it 26 times over the secure six years he was a candidate as president. that's powerful and persuasive evidence of criminal intent. and particularly, new york state. through district attorney alvin bragg in manhattan. he can use these trials that were held in 1992, to show trumps lawlessness. >> i'm obsessed with what happened in 84, glenn, in the fact that he's basica

and joining me now to discuss is glenn kirschner, and also the host of the podcast "justice matters." glen, my friend, so good to have you here. i've been saying this for month mark meadows has been very quiet, and i think he might already be cooperating with the doj. so what happens to meadows now especially in light of these recent revelations? >> you know, katie, the more we absorb this megareport 850 pages from the j-6 committee the more it becomes clear mark meadows has emerged as the single most potential cooperator for federal prosecutors. there's like a leverage palooza given what we have learned about mark meadows' suspected crimes. we already knew he was referred for prosecution by the j-6 committee for contempt of congress. why? because he refused to comply with a subpoena. he would rather hide, bury, see crete information about he had about donald trump's crimes than comply with a lawful subpoena and divulge that information to congress. we now see from cassidy hutchinson's transcript he's been caught, he's been outed as having burned documents repeatedly including after m

tom winner, glenn kirschner, appreciate it.utopsy by the new york city medical examiner revealing that grant wall, the international sport journalist, died from a slowly growing aortic aneurysm well covering the world cup in qatar. this morning, his wife, a member of the presidential transition team's covid advisory board, talk to cbs about her husband's work and his passions. >> there is so much about the culture, the politics of sport of soccer, to him it was a way of really understanding people and where they were coming from. i want people to remember him as this kind, generous person who has really dedicated to social justice. >> dr. gander also said the aneurysm was previously undetected and that his death was not due to covid. his vaccination status or any other external reasons. adding, there was nothing nefarious about his death. tragic as it was. sounding the alarm. which countries are at risk of economic collapse? climate change, disaster and armed conflict? and what we do about it? that's, next when david miliband o

the target o the criminal investigation that is an excellent point, an an excellent reminder, glenn kirschner, paul butler thank you both for coming to the las word and coming up, republica congressman elect george santos, has admitted to embellishing parts of his resume, but wha he claims are embellishments are actually lies, the republican leaders continue to remain silent about. and a former prosecutor said that santos could potentiall face charges for those lies, that is next that is next my wife introduced me to prevagen and so i said "yeah, i'll try it out." i noticed that i felt sharper, i felt like i was able to respond to things quicker. and i thought, yeah, it works for me. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. there's something going around the gordon home. it went from gabe. to gretta. to gabby. to grandma. then, gertrude found something for it. delsym. and now what's going around is 12-hour cough relief. and the giggles. and the great dane pup. and grandma's gluten-free gooseberry pie. which is actually pretty great. the family that takes delsym together, feels better together.

glenn kirschner, paul butler thank you both very much for coming to the last word. and coming up, republica congressman elect george santo has admitted to embellishing parts of his resume. but what he claims are embellishments are actuall lies that republican leaders continue to remain silent about. and a former prosecutor says santos could potentially fac charges for those lies that's next. >> did i embellishment resume? yes, i did and i'm sorry. and it shouldn't be done but i am still the same. guy i'm not a fraud. i'm not a cartoon character. i'm not some mythical creature that was invented. >> [laughter that was a republica congressman elect george santo in one of three interviews h gave following a new york time investigation into his work an college history. among the so-calle embellishments, george santo claimed he worked for goldma sacks and citi group he did not, ever george santos claimed he received a degree from baruc college and and why you. he never graduated from either of them. he said he lied because he was embarrassed about it george santos claimed

nobles, glenn kirschner, frank figliuzzi, tim miller, thanks for joining us tonight, i really appreciateight, coming, up our next guest says january 6th was a fantasy based insurrection. the crazy still out there. former january six committee advisor, denver riggleman has stayed up late, he just points of the cup of coffee, and he's here on what's next at the committee's final meeting. nal meeting. r romeo and juliet. ♪♪ thankfully, amazon had just the gift to bring the families together. ♪♪ shop legendary deals. flu symptoms hit harder than the common cold. so it takes the right tool for the job... to keep it together. now there's new theraflu flu relief with a max strength fever fighting formula. the right tool for long lasting flu symptom relief. hot beats flu. the unknown is not empty. it's a storm that crashes, and consumes, replacing thought with worry. but one thing can calm uncertainty. an answer. uncovered through exploration, teamwork, and innovation. an answer that leads to even more answers. mayo clinic. you know where to go. waiting. sometimes it's just inevitable. but if yo

nobles, glenn kirschner, frank figliuzzi, tim miller, thanks for joining us tonight, i really appreciate it. but a big night, coming, up our next guest says january 6th was a fantasy based insurrection. the crazy still out there. former january six committee advisor, denver riggleman has stayed up late, he just points of the cup of coffee, and he's here on what's next at the committee's final meeting. i was injured in a car crash. i had no idea how much my case was worth. i called the barnes firm. when a truck hit my son, i had so many questions about his case. i called the barnes firm. it was the best call i could've made. your case is often worth more than insuran call the barnes firm to find out i could've made. what your case could be worth. we will help get you the best result possible. ♪ the barnes firm, injury attorneys ♪ call one eight hundred,est resul eight million ♪ critical to our understanding of this attack on the 2020 election, and our system of constitutional democracy. none agreed to provide that essential information. >> after months of a void in those january six commi

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glenn kirschner, kimberl atkins store, thank you al both very, very much for hanging around with us all long appreciate y'all all right, folks, still ahead, we are going to get into how hate has intensified over this last year in some very tragically visible ways. so many communities were shattered by racist, antisemitic, anti lgbtq, and other hate fueled attacks. i mean, i'm thinking o colorado springs, i'm thinking of buffalo, new york, an others we are going to get into wha is behind it that's next. >> the chaos from late saturday, that leaves a tight-knit lgbtq community in mourning. their safe space turned into a tragic crime scene >> buffalo, new york, really reeling after police say the gunman went on a racist grocer rampage. authorities say all but tw victims were african american. (upbeat music) ♪ ♪ you're not gonna get it all right, just make sure you nail the big stuff... like making sure your kids are in the right seat for their age and size. get it right at nhtsa.gov/therightseat -- sadly not new. but 2022 saw a surge in bigotr from violence in the streets the legislation o

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glenn kirschner in the next segment we will discuss with harvard law professor the appeals process from here, i think we know that this circuit court has already been -- donald trump already attempted to appeal there -- could that process -- for jack smith tonight special prosecuting this case, what are the next moves? >> well the decks have been cleared now, no more special master no more delay for some sort of nonsensical review of the documents that donald trump stole, let's call it what it is, stole from the white house. and then unlawfully concealed at more largo even after they were subpoenaed which adds a bonus crime of obstruction of justice, it feels like the decks are clear for jack smith a newly pointed special counsel who by all accounts seemed to be a real without fear or favor kind of guy, who has prosecuted very difficult challenging, politically-charged cases against republicans and democrats alike, so it feels like the special counsel investigation out to be full speed ahead. >> joyce vance reporting tonight in the new york times that white house counsel pat cipollone a

because i have you here and because i completely respect your opinion, i have asked glenn kirschner andi'm going to ask you. which case will donald trump be indicted on first? fulton county dea down in georgia -- that is your first option. the second option is the january 6th insurrection. the last option is the mar-a-lago documents case. >> yes, the insurrection is going to take much longer. i'm down to options a and c. it seems like the justice department should be closed, but in light of these ongoing battles about more missing documents, it seems like the quest for missing documents -- over criminal charges. because we have the new special counsel there in jackson with, i'm going to go with fulton county. we have seen that all of the relevant people have been put in the grand jury. there is the nature of that case which is a little bit smaller to get your arms around. it is solely-limited to even occurring in georgia. i'm going to put my money on fulton county. >> barbara mcquade, we're going to come back to you watch those indictments come out and see what happens. i think you as a

. >> glenn kirschner, barbara mcquade, -- thank you all very much for joining us and starting off this discussion with us. we really appreciate. thank you. harvard law professor laurence tribe joins us next with his reaction to the 11th sort of repealed crushing donald trump today. that is next. that is next and it could strike at any time. think you're not at risk? wake up. because shingles could wake up in you. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor or pharmacist about shingles prevention. vicks vapostick. strong soothing... vapors. if you're over 50, talk to your doctor help comfort your loved ones. for chest, neck, and back. it goes on clear. no mess. just soothing comfort. try vicks vapostick. my most important kitchen tool? my brain. so i choose neuriva plus. unlike some others, neuriva plus is a multitasker supporting 6 key indicators of brain health. to help keep me sharp. neuriva: think bigger. the all-electric 2023 chevy bolt euv. 247 miles of range on a full charge. america's most affordable ev. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet. covid-19. some people get it, and some

and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner. katie, let's turn to you first.is not the first time that trump's white house lawyers have talked to a federal grand jury. so, i want to get enthused that so much is going to happen, and things are going to move forward, but do you believe that this time is different? could it have been productive, are there going to be big announcements next week? >> i do not think they're gonna be big announcements next week, there is a lot of -- on both of the investigations that are getting closer to president trump and the documents to overturn the election. what is interesting about pat cipollone and his deputy testifying in the january six investigation is that when you look back at the recording from that time, it is not clear how useful these witnesses will be in trying to get somebody to say that donald trump is told that what he was doing was wrong and that he continued to do something that, otherwise he shared with him some sort of conspiracy. it just does not have that reporting at that time, we had with lawyers, includ

. >> dangerous to donald trump, all right glenn kirschner, charlie savage, thank you both very much.xt, michael steele joins me to talk about why his party still cannot seem to quit donald trump or their culture war playbook. let's call it a republican autopsy. that is next. that is next with a multi-flex midgate for extra storage. and an available 400 miles of range on a full charge. evs for everyone, everywhere. chevrolet kevin, where are you?! kevin?!?!?.... hey, what's going on? i'm right here! i was busy cashbacking for the holidays with chase freedom unlimited. you know i can't believe you lost another kevin. it's a holiday tradition! earn big time with chase freedom unlimited. ♪ ♪ if shannon's thinking about retirement, she'll get some help from fidelity. with one-on-one financial coaching, shannon feels so good about her plan, she can enjoy more of right now. that's the planning effect, from fidelity. trelegy for copd. ♪birds flyin' high, you know how i feel.♪ ♪breeze driftin' on by...♪ ♪...you know how i feel.♪ you don't have to take... [coughing] ...copd sitting down. ♪it's

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