on private counsel, rather than secret service agency.tation would have been free. the committee cites footnote 704 which lists tony ornato as one of those agents. now, it's unclear that the secret service would have assigned a lawyer to mr. ornato since he was in the white house. but he had private counsel. who is paying for it we don't know. the committee and most importantly the justice department can make its own conclusions especially because the january 6th committee has found ornato to be significantly unreliable. joining us now is carol leonnig, national investigative reporter for "the washington post," she's also the author of "zero fail i the rise and fall of the secret service." carol, thank you for being with us. you were the first person i thought of combing through that summary and reading about the secret service. what do you make about the fact there are 30 agents cited specifically in the report that are retaining private counsel, in lieu of taking on preagency representation? >> well, it seems in the course of your publi

two days later, december 26th, the secret service got another tip.s time, about the proud boys plan to literally kill people during unarmed march in d.c.. the informant then added, please, please take this tip seriously. it is later on december 29th, the secret service held an intelligence briefing where concluded present trump supporters have propose a movement to occupy capitol hill on january 6th. it does not get much clearer than that. the secret service in other intelligence agencies knew ahead of time, the capital was likely to become a target of violence on january 6th. one of the many things we learned from the executive summary of the january six committee released yesterday and from that report we also learned that the person who was charged, in charge, even for me the white house about these alarming threats doesn't recall if he informed anyone about these alarming threats. that man's former white house deputy chief of staff and former secret service agent tony ornato. this is the question from the committee. do you remember talking to chi

now, the secret service has not commented on the claims that were made in the book. in national news. former president trump's tax returns are about to become public after years of controversy surrounding them. house democrats on the ways and means committee who voted to release the documents along with a report that accuses the irs failing to audit incorrectly. washington correspondent anna wiernicki joining us with the latest. good morning, anna. morning. that's right. in just a few hours, the public will see 6 years of former president donald trump's federal tax returns. now. >> this highly anticipated release comes after years of trump refusing to release his financial records. >> 6 years of former president donald trump's personal and business tax records will be made public friday morning. despite years of the former president fighting to keep those records secret, there is something clearly wrong here. california democrat judy chu who voted to release the documents from the hands of the house ways and means committee says the returns show the irs failed to pro

laura: the fbi and secret service were warned.f strummed capital on january 6, 2020 one, capital and dc police were underprepared and under siege. as the house's select committee prepare start issue its final report, questions remain about the threats of violence that went overlooked and communication breakdowns of a nation's top law enforcement. senior officials from the fbi, secret service, and other top intelligence agencies never testified publicly before the committee across its nine hearings. >> on this report received onto summer 26, the secret service field office relayed a tip that have been received by the fbi. laura: former fbi agent tracy walder says nothing was a mistake. >> in the final report, what i would really like to see is accountability. i think that is the bottom line. whether it is the secret service or the fbi or local police for not taking some of these threats seriously. and they either need to have new training in place in terms of how to understand some of these threats, or we need to look at creating a

the secret service was warned not only about trump's deadly violence.rief. so he was most likely getting all of this in their daily brief as well? i wouldn't know what was coming in the daily brief. if he gave me a yeah, i don't recall it today, but i'm sure that was something that took place. the committee also notes that despite intimidation from cassidy hutchinson. ornato said he could not recall that conversation and had no knowledge of the president's anger. these incidents led the committee to issue this pretty damning assessment. they found multiple parts of ornato's testimony questionable and when you add to that the details from cassidy hutchinson. the head of trump's secret service detail, bought him and what you get there is a picture of an agency that appeared very cozy with the former administration even while neglecting one of its most basic jobs. thank you for being here tonight? are we reading into the intimacy, being invited into the inner sanctum of the white house paired with the recalcitrant and is that a fair assessment? >> i don't

think at the end o the day when you have a senior law enforcement official lik ornato in the secret servicees questions of the independence of him and hi former agency, the secre service. and then for him to return t the secret service after serving in that politica position again as a senior law enforcement officer, i think i raises appropriate questions about what he was doing an what extent he had any rol with regard to the protected mission of the secret service. when you combine that with the committee's concerns about whether or not he was bein forthright in his testimon when you combine that with these huge bulk of missing tex messages that were wiped fro the devices, right on januar 6th. it does give rise to a lot o questions of what was going on and i'm afraid to say that looking through appendix one which talks about th government preparedness an response, there still is a bunch of unanswered question that i do not think th committee was able to get to the bottom of. >> it seems impossible t believe that tony ornato would not remember whether he briefe mark meadows on the security

the secret service, of course, is there. but what happens when the leader of the free world does not fully trust the people whose job it is to keep them safe. yeah, there's a new book which claims the president, president biden. >> is suspicious of some secret service agents kron four's. evan lambert has that story. >> a new book about president biden obtained by our partners at the hill bringing up striking claims about his relationship with the men and women on his secret service detail. the book, the fight of his life, which comes out january 17th is written by author and journalist chris whipple. among the claims that the president has trust issues with some of the agents tasked with protecting him because some are big supporters of former president trump. one such passage reads, quote, a bigger problem was biden's discomfort with his secret service detail. some of them were maggots sympathizers. he didn't trust them. according to whipple's reporting for the book, whipple gives contacts for biden's alleged feelings, writ

secret service, law enforcement, has written extraordinary books on it! as you are digesting all of this, carole, what more is coming to you. you know the secret service almost better than anyone i know. how humiliating is this? >> i think there are three -- three elements of the reports that are really difficult to swallow for sources of mine that i consider sort of patriots, secret service patriots. people who believe that they are nonpartisan, public servants who -- the people elect them, we just protect them. those three elements are as follows; one that very senior and key secret service officials tried to not recall important things that cassidy hutchinson was brave enough to lose all of her work friends, and all of her importance connected allies in the white house to tell. that's the first. the secret service has a history, and an important history of not wanting to lay bare of what the white right-hand shoulder of the presidents. their goal is to make sure the president feels secure enough to beat himself and not fear that what he says or does it

tony ornato used to work for the secret service. he got a cushy job at the white house and a cushy job back at the secret service. this is unprecedented and he became a true believer. frankly, his inability to be truthful and forthcoming in this entire ordeal is a poor reflection of what the secret service's mission and motto is, and that is an area that needs to be delved into further, maybe an inspector general investigation into what happened with the secret service, because it really shines a terrible light on what should be an honorable organization. tony ornato is a liar. >> then they deleted their phones. i'm sorry, but there's too many things. andrew and tara, thank you both very much. >> up next on "the reidout," will the real george santos please stand up. an incoming house republican is under scrutiny under what appears to be several fabricated aspects of his biography and resume. "the reidout" continues after this. psoriasis really messes with you. try. hope. fail. no one should suffer like that. i started cosentyx®. fiv

for those people not familiar with him, he was a former longtime secret service agent assigned to the executive detail, the protection of the president, takes a leave of absence from the secret service, becomes a political guy, an adviser to the president, and according to the report, quote, multiple parts of his testimony are questionable, unquote. we're not done with him as a country, and i suspect the committee is not done with him either. what are your thoughts on the level of corruption that the president, former president brought to the table each and every day? >> well, obviously off the charts, mike. i know you and i are in agreement about this. we're still counting the cost of the institutional damage that donald trump caused over the course of four years. but i'd say, you know, among the most striking and something i think we'll get a clearer picture of when we see this report tomorrow, just the degree to which the secret service, law enforcement itself was undermined by trump in myriad ways. the secret service in particular, some of the largest questions come out of this co

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you talk about the secret service, you talk about vice president pence. he was there.people might be uncomfortable, you know, whether you're democrat or republican or you want to give credit to. but on that day, there's a heroic actions of vice president pence. and the fact is he did stand up for the constitution that day. you know people can scratch their head about any type of, you know, support or any type of friendship or olive branch that vice pence would put out afterwards. you can't take what happened that day. also, vice president pence, with his own secret service contingent, did stay in the area. and i think you can't paint whole secret service with a brush with a few people that seem to be on the side of things that really don't make much sense, know that they had criminal intent or was or whatever. but it's very difficult. you don't i think the whole secret service with that brush, especially, you see the vice president was there. he was able to manage that day in a way that i think speaks to, you know, courage so i again, it's difficult. you know, people s

you talk about the secret service, you talk about vice president pence. he was there.people might be uncomfortable, you know, whether you're democrat or republican or you want to give credit to. but on that day, there's a heroic actions of vice president pence. and the fact is he did stand up for the constitution that day. you know people can scratch their head about any type of, you know, support or any type of friendship or olive branch that vice pence would put out afterwards. you can't take what happened that day. also, vice president pence, with his own secret service contingent, did stay in the area. and i think you can't paint whole secret service with a brush with a few people that seem to be on the side of things that really don't make much sense, know that they had criminal intent or was or whatever. but it's very difficult. you don't i think the whole secret service with that brush, especially, you see the vice president was there. he was able to manage that day in a way that i think speaks to, you know, courage so i again, it's difficult. you know, people s

you talk about the secret service, you talk about vice president pence. he was there.people might be uncomfortable, you know, whether you're democrat or republican or you want to give credit to. but on that day, there's a heroic actions of vice president pence. and the fact is he did stand up for the constitution that day. you know people can scratch their head about any type of, you know, support or any type of friendship or olive branch that vice pence would put out afterwards. you can't take what happened that day. also, vice president pence, with his own secret service contingent, did stay in the area. and i think you can't paint whole secret service with a brush with a few people that seem to be on the side of things that really don't make much sense, know that they had criminal intent or was or whatever. but it's very difficult. you don't i think the whole secret service with that brush, especially, you see the vice president was there. he was able to manage that day in a way that i think speaks to, you know, courage so i again, it's difficult. you know, people s

and then of course they point to federal law enforcement, the secret service, they want those agencies to do more to combat violent extremism, of course. because was extremist groups, laura, which led the attack on the capitol. that's probably the oath keepers and the proud boys. the proud boys beginning their seditious conspiracy trial in new york. the oath keepers, of course, several members of the competitive situations conspiracy. this is a wide ranging report. this comes two days after the committee said it would be initially released. we are waiting for this on wednesday at noon. it's now thursday night at 11 p.m. finally coming out. the committee was sort of battling typographical errors and maybe some printing delays, but they finally got in this report out, it recommends a litany of things going for it in the future especially detailing how the people who were responsible can actually come to terms with what they've done will be held accountable and how to prevent something like this in the future so laura a few new details coming out as well this really lays out everything th

bolden and president kennedy and first african american secret service agent and he got echoes of deally plaza and setting up for president biden. >> i think we have the idea of what to talk about. let's hear from our guest mark updegrove. >> i don't know the person i've not heard of them and obviously the kennedy assassination is something that continues to loom large in the imaginations of the american people and we can certainly talk about that. i've never subscribed to the conspiracy theories and the alone gunman theories and the incredible evidence otherwise and some years back i was able to interview several times gerald ford at that time the lone surviving member of the warren commission and he told me i've always subscribed to the lone gunman theory in the absence of a more incredible theory that can be back up and i've not closed the door on the notion that there could have been a greater conspiracy but nothing and no one come forward with evidence that would suggest that lee harry os walled not responsible for this -- oswald and he was a a neighbor that had taken russian lesson

but a year later, secret service said that was in there and it didn't have any records.t month, secret service changed its tune again they have over 100 records related to the incident. the president of judicial watch telling fox, there is nothing. the secret service changing a story on record raises questions of its role on the incident but one thing is clear, judicial watch persistence means the public may get records that the surface adjusted did not exist. >> carley: a dramatic shoot-out between the police in raleigh, north carolina, and accused teen killer who was 15 years old. all caught on dramatic body cam video. >> come on! "guns fired clos >> we will shou what happens they are next. another memorial of the triple murder and idaho as big please for more than three weeks later appeared forensic pathologist to break down the latest in the investigation. stay right here >> todd: a second funeral for the slain university idaho students will be held today. >> carley: officials are throwing more confusion into the case as they change their stance once again saying one

there was an assassination of what the russians call the right by from the russian secret service, a military secret service right here in berlin in the middle of but then just a couple years ago, the alleged to happen is in jail here. and then the opposition politician alex saying of, i know when he was poisoned in russia, he was slow here to germany to a hospital. that's a couple of blocks away from here where he was treated and healed. so the germans have been very much critical of russian authorities, obviously supporting ukraine. so russian german relations really are deteriorating, are not in a good state. as a result is to be expected that they will be spying probably on both sides. russia invaded ukraine 10 months ago. hines, moscow has been seen as a clear security threat for europe. do authorities believe that the kremlin has stepped up, its spying in germany during that time? have to do the internal intelligence service here in germany. the head of that said, recently that the level of spying the intensity of spying is probably comparable to the time of the cold war when t

some secret services and the police have a whole other set of tools at their disposal. and they make met her microsoft, apple or who are way look harmless. at least 50000 people have been spied on with the pegasus software in recent years, including journalists, senior politicians, and heads of state. some phone manufacturers now claim that they can ward off attacks with this vi software. my pegasus is one of the most powerful surveillance tools in the world. this trojan horse fires gets installed on a phone by its user or knowingly. it can spy on anything that happens on the phone, including remotely controlling its camera or microphone. it's pretty scary. all you need to do is have your phone connected to the into, and then it can be infected without you noticing it. there, there will be a message sent to your column and down your phone will be infected, just like that. pegasus was developed by the israeli security company and a so group, police states and secret services are the clients. those targeted include indian politician roha gandhi, the former pakistani prime

the secret service agent came in again and said sir, we have got to leave the building. i said, we are fine. we will stay here. i was not leaving my post. a few minutes later, they came back in and they were more insistent and said we need to leave the building. and i stuck my finger in our lead agents chest, and i said you are not hearing me. i said, i am not sleeping, i am not giving those people the site of a 16 car motorcade speeding away from the capital. he looked at me with some anxiety and said, well, you cannot stay here. this is a glass door. we cannot secure it. with a note from my daughter, he offered that we could go to the loading dock a few floors down that was still secure. i agreed. but as we made our way down the stairs, we could hear the sound of footfall, we could hear the noise of a crowd in the hallways . but arriving in the loading dock, they began to walk me towards the cars, the motorcade was lined up on the ramp going out of the underground parking garage. the doors were both open, and i stopped and looked at my lead agent, a wonderful courageou

secret service agent bobby engel felt it was not safe for the president to go to the capitol.t in the car, but told the committee what she later learned about that journey. the president said something to the effect of, "i'm the bleep president. - take me up to the capitol now". to which bobbie responded, "sir, we have to go back to the west wing". the president reached up towards the front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. mr engel grabbed his arm, and said, "sir, you need to take your hand "off the steering wheel. we are going back to the west wing. "we are not going to the capitol". mr trump then used his free hand to lunge towards bobby engel and when mr 0rnato had recounted the story to me, he had motioned towards his clavicles. chanting: usa! usa! a white house employee informed the president as soon as he returned to the oval about the riot at the capitol. let me repeat that. within 15 minutes of leaving the stage, president trump knew that the capitol was besieged and under attack. as violence outside the capitol began, the committee documented the increasi

the courts, the secret services, the courts, the secret services, the courts, the diplomatic servicesheir leaders with people who are sympathetic to the revolution and then re—educating the lower members. i mean, this is student just politics, but these people are currently the railway system . currently the railway system. and it's been said that, you know mick lynch may or may not be a marxist, but if you look at the collective leadership of the rmt , you'll find they all have rmt, you'll find they all have these links . it's a remarkable, these links. it's a remarkable, remarkable story. we'll have to explore. it's when we have more time, we'll have to get you back a little bit later, perhaps in the week. sorry about the technical issues that cut technical issues that have cut this individual. but charles, thank you very for joining thank you very much for joining us on the briefing this us here on the briefing this morning. the show morning. that's it for the show today. up next is bev today. coming up next is bev turner today .

i did the board or work for the russian secret services. did he work for other secret services? no doubt you will now have good life in russia. and because the russians are, who are a former us prisoners, are they all can, you can imagine they had to have good life. but such are the case was with foremost by honor chapman and with karen to do my m p. and your little boy who is suspected, suspected of involvement over the murder of the russian spy, let within can london all this people are now respected persons in russia. there are other western prisoners being held in russia, sometimes on dubious charges. what are their chances of release? well, is the most prominent u. s. american prisoner in russia is certainly a poll whelan, but he seems to be a different case because he is accused of as pan nash. and that is much worse for the russian judicial authorities, even though that makes him more interesting for possible for the present exchange. so far there is no sign that he will be expanded, exchanged, but the russians want not to state to lift the sanctions. that is the goal and

edgar hoover and the secret service in 1963.o tell the secret service very much, and the other intriguing question is, we know that edgar hoover hated kennedy. was very close to lyndon johnson, who was his neighbor in washington. i'm not suggesting that he deliberately did this, but you know, there may have been benign neglect that hoover may have said, okay, if kennedy is going to do these things i don't like, maybe i'm not going to strain too hard to protect him, especially in a city like dallas where the violence of the radical right had been expressed. >> and when you think about all of this, the president of mexico helped the cia with surveillance of oswald. they were tracking him. they knew exactly where he was. >> totally. >> it seems -- >> the two together were taking pictures of coming to those embassies. there were pictures of oswald literally on the doorstep. we believe that there were tapes of what he might have said with him on the telephone. so there's a big history of oswald dealing with the soviets and the cubans

secret service agent came in again and said sir, we've got to leave the building and i said fine, we will stay here. i wasn't leaving my post. and a few minutes later they a came in and were more insistent. they said we need to leave the building. and i stuck my finger in our lead agents chest and i said you're not hearing cme . i said i'm not leaving. i said i'm not giving these people the site of the 16 car motorcade speeding away from the capital . and he looked at me with some anxiety and said you can't stay here, this isa glass door . we can't secure it. and with a nudge from my daughter he offered that we could go to the loading docka few floors down that was ill secure . and i agreed. but as we made our way down the stairs we could hear the sound of footfalls. we could hear the noise of a crowd in the hallways. but arising in the loading dock they began to lock me towards the cars, so that motorcade was lined up on the ramp going out of the underground parking garage. the doors were both open. and oi stopped and looked at my lead agents, a wonderful courageous mannamed tim gab

somebody needs to investigate and make sure that we can trust the secret service to protect president biden and whoever the next president is. going forward. or our next presidents, going forward. that is really important. the fbi needs to be looked at. all of those things are important institutional issues that can only be handled by investigating them and then taking legislative action to make sure that you plug the holes. >> even having this conversation for so long, i just want to bring us back to the fact that time is of the essence here. we are now the next three weeks and then, that is likely when it comes to the work of the one sixth committee so it struck me that you had a republican event in new york this week, there were new york post reports that marjorie taylor greene joked about january 6th saying quote, if steve bannon and i had organized that, we would've won. not to mention, we would have been armed. you will forgive me if i don't find that funny, if that is not sense of humor. i wonder instead than, what it tells you about what we expect from house republicans when i

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the president not trusting his own secret service agents. holy cow. that ain't going to go over very well. >> jason, say it ain't so. joe biden is implying there is a deep state. a bunch of employees who are working against the best interest of the commander-in-chief. regarding joe biden claiming that the secret service lie on him, we all know that joe biden has a very low threshold for lying. he's been lying for decades about his alleged civil rights record claiming he worked to de segregate restaurants and theaters in delaware. zero evidence that he did it. he said he tried to visit nelson mandela during apartheid and got arrested, no evidence that he did that, lied and claimed that the man who struck and killed his first wife tragically was drunk. he was not drunk and the daughter of the man said, please stop saying. this my father feels badly enough and joe biden said it again. claiming he finished the top half of his law school class, he finished in the bottom and he claimed that donald trump said about charlottesville there were good that is ass

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>> the matter with the secret service was i think the last big final leg of this investigation. all of that sort of blew up after the final of the last public hearing that the committee had. the members were essentially enraged upon learning that text messages had been deleted, that they hadn't got full cooperation from the service secret service, that they believe that some of the agents may have misled the committee. so they hauled in these agents again to re-interview them. my understanding of what they have learned is a bunch of conflicting stories and they basically just do not believe some people were being fully honest with the committee, that some people's testimony contradicts some of the documents and evidence they have. so no one thing the committee is looking at is obstruction or interference type of referrals. that potentially could apply here, we might see that on monday. i'm almost positive that we will see a breakdown of the secret service with sort of a side by side comparison of what different testimony was. and remember, they are playing all the transcript, so

forwarded by mark meadows and others who received it at the highest levels of the white house, secret service tony ornato, that that was not communicated to donald trump. >> that's true. but, i mean, also when we talk about intelligence, there's an idea that it's secret, behind the scenes sort of stuff. it really was all out in the open. this isn't rocket science. if you have a bunch of people going to the capitol on january 6th, believing a crazy conspiracy theory about the election and think this is 17762.0 that the america is being swept out from under their feet. this is the end of the line, the final moment, and then you have a charismatic leader like donald trump who engages in the lies, everyone head to the capitol, what do you think is going to happen. it's putting two and two together, this is four, this could be a problem. that's i think what the real failure of imagination was ahead of january 6th. >> ryan rawley, thank you so much, and katie, and hallie as we conclude this, the report says that donald trump knew very well that it was going to be violent. that he was part of this a