please welcome tressie mcmillan cottom! t's a pleasure to be back. >> trevor: do i say professor? i would love to know what you prefer. because you have so many prestigious titles. "new york times" best selling author, could be professor, could be mcarthur -- is it a genius grant to give you? >> you can say that. i think i am not supposed to say that. the foundation would prefer not. >> trevor: that is interesting. they say you are a genius but you are not allowed to say it of yourself. >> exactly. kind of like your mother tells you some things are best set about you by others. >> trevor: i see. you are amazing, but don't ever think that about yourself. well, then, i will say to you, the genius professor t that is tressie, welcome to the show. >> thank you very much. [cheers and applause] >> trevor: what a time to have you on, because there are few people who i have enjoyed learning from, engaging with, studying, because you are not just a professor. you are a sociologist. you are someone who looks at the world, you study wh