al moscow bureau chief fury rossetto has been based in hunger ever since for her. he sent it. oh, he's offices in russia. tell us more about the difficulties were russians escaping the war in ukraine? while 1st been russians? if they want to flee the horse must be allowed to leave the country as there are plenty of professions in russia that have been forbidden by the government to travel abroad and some civil servants state on companies, members of the armed forces. and so one second, you have to be able to finance the 3 flights to the best have become extremely expensive because you have to fly via 3rd countries, which hardly any one can afford. what remains are neighboring russian countries, george armenia, kazakstan, all the baltic states are, but the mood there seems to be changing. and the multi countries have long close to their borders to most russians as be just seen in my report. we even saw people flagrant foot on, on their bicycles earlier in the war. how many russians still support the war? won't really hard to tell how many russians support put into policies or p

al jazeera boss mote. o matthews, of the foreman, moscow bureau chief and newsweek magazine and author of overreach, the inside story of pretence war against ukraine and joins us now from rome. great to have you with us. first of all, why are these 2 sides fighting so fiercely for this place? of backward getting the can i just say that was a fantastic for me on the ground that up see why they fighting so intensely. there are tactical reasons, but if i had an important red junction, the controls and important route for re supplying ukrainian troops solid, which the roughly counted a few days ago. got deep sold minds were good for storing tanks and men. but that's not the real important. the real importance is actually just strategically getting some kind of a win for russia. it doesn't really matter where it is. so in that sense, but what is in itself, just in other towns in the us. but if the russian succeed in capturing it, it will be that 1st victory that they took a chance to save the venue back in july. and it's very important to the credit and right now to the back of the war. and equally, it's enormously