i'm sorry that my colleague brendan sÖderberg couldn't join us tonight.the original idea was to have a conversation. we sort of brought the drug trade in the drug war in baltimore together with the drug trade and the drug war in a place like mexico. we're going to try continue to do that, although i don't have deep contextual knowledge of the city. but as big fan of his writing and a deep reader, his i will try to bring what i've learned from into this conversation. i to start by just saying that this is a remarkable book. i'm so glad it's here. it's out in paperback. it's purchasable here at red. emma's and it's a tremendous history. you have not yet had the chance to read. ben does are incredible thing, which is that he makes he sort of absorbs a massive corpus of very detailed historical facts about the history of the drug trade. mexico really entire country of mexico north to and makes into this very readable very lively very book that will as was saying really sort of slip in some knowledge while we are learning these sort of very engaging about the

i'm sorry that my colleague brendan sÖderberg couldn't join us tonight.the original idea was to have a conversation. we sort of brought the drug trade in the drug war in baltimore together with the drug trade and the drug war in a place like mexico. we're going to try continue to do that, although i don't have deep contextual knowledge of the city. but as big fan of his writing and a deep reader, his i will try to bring what i've learned from into this conversation. i to start by just saying that this is a remarkable book. i'm so glad it's here. it's out in paperback. it's purchasable here at red. emma's and it's a tremendous history. you have not yet had the chance to read. ben does are incredible thing, which is that he makes he sort of absorbs a massive corpus of very detailed historical facts about the history of the drug trade. mexico really entire country of mexico north to and makes into this very readable very lively very book that will as was saying really sort of slip in some knowledge while we are learning these sort of very engaging about the

things that comes out of my understanding, one of the things that i've learned, reporters like brendan sÖderbergand other folks who work on the way that drug works in cities like baltimore, and then the abolitionist more broadly in the united states, is the extent to what we know about drugs comes from cops right. everything we know about drug trafficking for a long time came from the state came from the police forces. we started to have different understandings of that as we moved into the 1980s and 1990s. we had anthropologists of embed themselves with drug traffickers, began to get kind of lesson versions of this. but in researching this as a historic, you have to rely on the archives of that kind of state power. you have to rely on the archives of police forces. so i wonder if you can talk about the sources that you used for this and the strategies that you had to use to read in order to be able to kind pull out. you know, how actually understood how drug trafficking worked. that was not entirely through the lens of what law enforcement want to tell us about it. right. there's one huge advan

i'm sorry that my colleague brendan sÖderberg couldn't join us tonight.the original idea was to have a conversation. we sort of brought the drug trade in the drug war in baltimore together with the drug trade and the drug war in a place like mexico. we're going to try continue to do that, although i don't have deep contextual knowledge of the city. but as big fan of his writing and a deep reader, his i will try to bring what i've learned from into this conversation. i to start by just saying that this is a remarkable book. i'm so glad it's here. it's out in paperback. it's purchasable here at red. emma's and it's a tremendous history. you have not yet had the chance to read. ben does are incredible thing, which is that he makes he sort of absorbs a massive corpus of very detailed historical facts about the history of the drug trade. mexico really entire country of mexico north to and makes into this very readable very lively very book that will as was saying really sort of slip in some knowledge while we are learning these sort of very engaging about the