he sounds like dan burton. this guy doesn't seem all the way, i don't know, the plug isn't plugged all the way into the wall. and yet, here he is on this committee alongside 16 out of 26 members of the committee are election deniers. how is that going to work out? >> well, joy, there's a long and i don't think you call it honorable tradition that perry is falling into. dan burton, who was investigating the clintons for sex scandal, had a child to a woman he wasn't married to, he had to admit. darrell issa was arrested as a car thief, so now, charged with a felony. so now you have perry who has was still will not admit that joe biden is a legally elected president. he endorsed mastriano, who was a guy who hired people and paid them to come be part of this insurrection, paid for their transportation. look, this is very bad for the country. but i have to say, in a political sense, it's going to be good for democrats, because nobody cares about this stuff. and these are just nutty, unserious people. i mean, the mor