public culture. my name is sofia chelyak, and today we will talk with an expert in long-term strategies, the founders of the analytical center promova, as well as members of the district council of public broadcasting yevhena hlyubovytskyi yevhena greetings we would like to start this conversation with a more general and global issue, but actually here your competences are very interesting, you have been watching ukraine for its development since about the 10s years actively and uh, like a big war that started this year on february 24 , they changed the ukrainians and uh, what stage did we go to after the start of a full-scale invasion? well, i have been professionally observing since the mid-90s. in analytics and work with such a professional observation of changes in ukrainian culture since 2007, that is, even before the financial crisis, and i think that we had a whole wave of changes that were actually the maturation of subjectivity that took shape on the maidan during revolution of dignity and in fact for me countdown to the independence of ukraine - this is a countdown from the 14th year in 1991, on august 24, the ukrainian political elites were able to do what the ukrainian people mainly accuse them of not being able to do, they w