cecilia kang, former republican congressman carlos curbelo, former homeland security secretary jeh johnson, and elizabeth nolan brown, senior editor at reason. welcome to sunday and a special edition of "meet the press." >> from nbc news in washington, the longest-running show in television history -- this is a special edition of "meet the press" with chuck todd. >> good sunday morning. happy new year. 2023 is here. this morning, we're going to take a deep dive into the social-media platforms that profit from grabbing onto and monetizing our attention to the tune of billions of dollars a year and with almost no regulation. a majority agree social media's influence on our democracy and our national security is a big problem. sixty-four percent of americans believe social media has been a bad thing for our democracy -- two-thirds of the country -- creating polarization and division and eroding civility in our politics. all of this according to a new pew survey. it's an attention economy whose business model depends simply on persuading you that you and your way of life is somehow under attac

of "an ugly truth: inside facebook's battle for domination," former homeland security secretary jeh johnsonrmer republican congressman carlos curbelo, and senior editor at reas magazine, elizabeth nolan brown. welcome to all of you. cecelia, i want to start with you because you've written this book on facebook. it does -- kara swisher >> i want to start with you. you wrote this book on facebook. it does -- it has a sort of a take on facebook. mark zuckerberg didn't know he was created when he started creating it. and that sort feels like what all the social media companies. they are starpted with good intentions and it got out of hand. it lost control. >> yeah. there are two guiding forces. they wanted companies that would grow and grow fast and grow big and scale to point where they're global and they would have historic and lasting impact. the second thing these are businesses. these are companies motivated by profits. the business model is built on the idea of getting eyeballs and attention to serve up to advertisers. and to make money that way. and that, i think, is -- if you miss those

joining me now is jeh johnson, former department of homeland security secretary during the obama administration the defense department. >> welcome to new york. >> i would like to say it's great to be in new york and away from this debate. we went through 15 rounds to choose a speaker until 1:30 in the morning last week. >> i watched half of them. >> we had to watch all of it so you didn't have to. the fact is, that we now have joe biden acknowledging -- the white house acknowledging that back in november they found some documents. they say a small number of documents in his office on capitol hill. they were closing that office down. he used it when he was -- excuse me, after he was vice president. they haven't said what kind, what level of classification, how many, why they didn't report it earlier. they reported it immediately to the archives which makes it difference than what donald trump did. you know politics in washington. this is now beyond what aboutism. this is, let's go after joe biden and demand that he be investigated -- he is being investigated, but demand he be prosecuted. >> this