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kimberly crenshaw. that, i think, is transparent to people.ink people are not stupid, okay, they understand that when you allow ap european history, ap japanese history and say, okay, black folks, we're not going to teach your history because we don't like the way that -- we don't like the subject matters that are in the curriculum, i think that that is very transparent to people. and i have a lot of questions about beyond florida, beyond this political moment, whether or not something like this is going to play to a broader american public. they have kids who are in high school who take ap classes on all kinds of subjects. ap classes are not mandated at all. so i think people get it and it's just -- you know, only time will tell. >> by the way, i think you and i are the only ones that have high school kids. >> right, i have a junior in high school. >> how delighted would you be if your kid read any book? [ laughter ] >> i love it. and by the way, when i was in high school i loved african american history. it was one of my favorite classes. >>

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she faced today using kimberly crenshaw's charm. we would call this situation intersectionality adding to the complexity and certainly against the cultural norms of her era paulie sometimes dressed in men's clothes and her gender fluidity. would be something that shaped her entire life. at a time when there was barely little vocabulary for it. in 1940 she was arrested for refusing to sit in the back of a bus in virginia. well, i had a rosa parks and even jackie robinson who was court-martialed himself for standing up to segregation at fort hood in 1944. a believer in civil disobedience murray also participated in restaurant sit-ins in the early 1940s and led a national campaign on behalf of a black sharecropper odell waller who was executed for killing his landlord in self-defense in 1942. she and eleanor roosevelt both made passionate pitches on waller's behalf. shortly after world war ii she joined the congress on racially quality on an integrated journey of reconciliation an early freedom ride if you like. she also set up a law p

and we know that professor kimberly crenshaw and some others came up with it and primarily taught it in law school. it's a dog whistle and they are talking to -- it just boggles my mind. seems like conservatives always want to make a false equivalency. they need to come tell the truth. their goal is to erase or diminish the history of black people and other marginalized populations. instead, we should be educating, enlightening people, empower people. let's talk about the structural imbalances in this country and do something about them. but to say you don't want these types of curriculum taught in school tells me you don't want america's children to know the truth, the good, the bad, and the ugly. and it is an affront to the black community in particular and other marginalized communities in general. >> scott, i want to bring you in. you and i bonded in some respects over distance learning during the pandemic and how much we became involved in our kids' curriculum, as all parents did. now i'm really, really paying attention, especially at the grade school level. it's true. it's not

teaching and reading kimberly crenshaw who is, because of her connection to intersectionality. davis, a seminal figure in african- american and american history. i could go on. do you believe that because of what ron desantis is doing and his personal objection to the idea that there was racism in america and that it should be taught, do you think that will make florida students less attractive to colleges around the country and less educated? >> it should. it showed for florida students. they are going to colleges and universities that have been steeped in this history and our students are going to be lost. they will have no idea where to begin after going through the desantis education program in florida. it would be a tragedy. for our university system to be destroyed by this man. he is after tenure now. ask him to tell how much they are spending on diversity. why does he want to know that? i want to know who said that this education was inadequate. did a black person make that call? >> i will point out that it was not. and we are going to find that out. i can tell you, one

course there are books, there is studies by kimberly crenshaw, one of the originators of critical race it's very blatant. intersectionality, jessica asked what is wrong with black queer theory. the answer to the question, jessica, not simply teaching history, indoctrination in how you view history. you view history through identity and victimhood and intersectionality and that's what the parents and the people of florida, and by extension, ron desantis, want in their state. >> this sound bite, ron desantis. >> the state of florida our education standards not only don't prevent but they require teaching black history, all the important things. this course on black history, what is one of the lessons about? queer theory. who would say an important part of black history is queer theory. that is somebody pushing an agenda on our kids. >> trace: you would argue that it is, jessica. your thoughts. >> i want to see what the revisions are to the curriculum and that's going on since march of 2022, see where it shakes out. i'm not for a ban on revising curriculums or looking into these things, b

and if it means they don't teach the works of delgado and kimberly crenshaw, he is right. but if it means all the parents and friends who write me saying, guess what sorts of things my child history teacher is teaching, and i wrote the principle in the principal rollback something and he pretended to make any sense on what listen, that is happening across the country. and doesn't have to be critical race theory itself. but if your kids are being taught that white-ness is a kind of inherent guilt, if your kids are being taught that blackness it's a kind of eternal victimhood, if your kids are being taught that also objects need to be looked at through the lens of what they signaled for power relations, especially between white and brown people, that's what your kids are being taught to any appreciable extent such that they would come up to say, i'm not enjoying this, mom. that's critical race theory. and anybody who denies that's an issue either doesn't know and, you know, some people find education policy boring. i don't care about football, i don't know anything about it.