michael phelps, the great swimmer, has talked about and written a book about had a documentary about. if the great, wonderful, all powerful, michael phelps can tell us that he's struggling, well, the nfl can also say, hey, we've got human beings here, as you said marcus, we need to address this. >> we had simone biles opted not to compete, which was really the next even horizon. >> you took the words right out of my mouth. and that same summer, phelps actually's been talking about this for a while, but you have naming on osaka, within a month or two a couple months, you have simone biles story, and the time that the world is watching. the tokyo olympics. and she says, i can't compete. it took these incredibly strong athletes world renowned athletes, so now, the nfl is also dealing with this and saying, hey, the athletes the players union has been really strong on this. athletes like marcus, speaking about this, laura, and saying, we have to focus on the mental health of these giants who also, by the way, are human beings. >> marcus, on that point, this is also a business as much as i

it's a great wonderful all power michael phelps can tell us that he's struggling, well, then the nfluman beings here as you said marcus, we need to address this. >> and opting not to compete, which was really the next even horizon. >> you took the words out of my mouth, that same summer, phelps has been talking about this for awhile but you have naomi osaka within a month or two, couple months you have the simone biles story at the time that the world is watching, the tokyo olympics and she said i can't compete. it took these incredibly strong athletes world renown athletes and now the nfl is also dealing with this and saying hey, we, the athletes the players union has been strong on this, marcus speaking about this law and saying, we have to focus on the mental health of these giants who also by the way are human beings. >> and marcus on the point, this is also a business as much as it's a sport and the phrase are you not entertained comes to mind. and there's a big dollar sign attached to the priorties that a league will make to figure out how best to market it and maybe that gladi

been very public about their personal struggles with adversity, naomi osaka, and simone biles, michael phelpsw did shiffrin deal with this? because she had a lot of setbks leading up to beijing. christine: oh, without a doubt. she had covid. she was in isolation for 10 days, missg a key part of her training. her dad, who -- of course, her dad and her mom are both skiers, got her into the sport, decided how to train her, said, don't worry about winning little ribbons and races. you're going to stay on the mountain and be a kid and we're going to learn this way. her dad suddenly passed away after an accident, a fall in 2020. she was devastated, of course. and then, of course, beijing itself, just the bad -- the poor performance after poor performance. what she did was, she was incredibly honest, as honest as anyone i have seen. most nfl players, whatever, they might sign their helmet, they want to walk out, they want to talk for a quick second. she would do interview after interview, complete class act. i'm sure many people saw one or two of those. william: just confronted this head on. christi