let's bring in our guests now and instagram is phillip o'connor, a journalist covering social and political issues in sweden for more than 2 decades . in anchor is my case associate professor at hassan columbia university and a specialist on turkish foreign policy and security issues. and in oxford were joined by a samuel romani associate fellow at the royal united services institute of a warm welcome to all of you, philip, let's start with you and sweden's freedom of expression. is it too far reaching, allowing such a provocative act like this that many countries around the world would consider a hate crime? i think that's the big debate in sweden at the moment, laura, after the burning of the koran, as mentioned in the report, fred: prior to our discussion there, this is not the 1st time that ross miss paula dawn has done this in sweet and he seeks to go around, he seeks to provoke this kind of reaction and he's made it very much about air, freedom of speech. now, there's no sort of coincidence that he's going around burning a koran rather than a christian bible, because this is the kind