ramanan laxminarayan: the south of india, in health system terms, resembles ireland, and the north ofy different capacities within a single country. emma: ramanan laxminarayan is an epidemiologist and health economist who splits his time between india and the united states. emma: tuberculosis we know is a particular challenge for india, killing something i understand like 1,300 people a day. how is the hospital system dealing with that dema alongside the challenges of covid-19? ramanan: so this has been a real challengen india,hich is that outpatient departments have been shut down and people requiring care for more routine things like tuberculosis, like cancer, like other chronic diseases have often been turned away. because of the nature of the lockdown, which has been extremely strict, which makes sense from a covid standpoint, it probably is exacerbating that from other causes. and this really is a tragedy because it's not as if these other diseases come to a halt just because covid is around. they're all continuing. emma: as far as the coronavirus threat goes, the situation in in