we turn now to hear bishop william barber of the poor people's campaign in his own words. n event organized by repairers of the breach, barber gave a sermon on christmas eve titled "no war: a moral call for a christmas truce." after reflecting on the christmas truce in 1914 during world war i, barber said now is the time for ceasefire in ukraine. >> we desperately need cease-fire and negotiations to end the brutal russian war in ukraine today. like rachel in the bible and pope francis who just the other day wept in public over this war , we must mourn publicly over the war. something is terribly wrong in our churches and places of worship if we try to have christmas without doing that. listen to the pope's prayer. immaculate virgin, today i would have wanted to bring you the thanks of the ukrainian people for peace. this is what he said before he was overwhelmed by emotion. and then he said instead, once again, i have to bring you the pleas of children. the pleas of the elderly, the pleas of the fathers and mothers, the young people, of the martyred man which is suffering s

joining me is the doctor reverend william barber, co-chair of the poor peoples campaign, the presidenttiple books, including his latest, we are called to be a movement from 2020. reverend barber, good to see you, thank you for being with us. you and i have had the discussion about the work you are doing a lot. but i really want to take this opportunity to more clearly draw this line about economic justice, social justice. both of those are being necessary to achieve racial justice. the idea, this is a pluralistic movement. you often say are not simply talking about black people or black workers, but that this unity you develop with poor people across the country is what is important to move the political needle? >> x actually right, though she. more than 100,000 people showed up, june 18th of last year, when we marched on washington, meaning his own line. we need to have a movement. his words were, nothing would be more tragic than for us to turn back now. sadly, this weekend, there will be many elected officials on both sides of the aisle, attending the mlk event, claiming to adore hi

expansion cutting resources from the children's health care program and i was here with doctor william barber and others . then barbara told me it was my turn to be arrested. >> the first time i got arrested was with my wife. >> on a date. >> absolutely. but whatever it was sometimes you've got to have work to advance the idea.. i remember what the issue was. we were all playing for children. >> now my office is down the hall from the rotunda where i got arrested. and the capital police who were very kind and polite who were doing their job and had me in central booking that day . nowadays they help me get to my office. and you know, that's what i mean when i said all wayout of no way . the journey, the work that we're trying to do, the progress, it comes in fits and starts. the democracy expands and contracts. america is a great nation because they're always been people who want to lay it all on the line for the country. my dad was like that. i talk about him a lot. and it's because he had such an amazing impact on the. he was a preacher but not with the credentials thati've been able to gai

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