back to dan hoffman. good to have you with us today. what about jennifer's question, these joint exercises between russia and china that are in south african waters, naval exercises. you heard the response. we do the same thing in other places and we're not going to say whether or not we're angry with south africa. what do you think? >> i think representative gallagher is absolutely right, that russia is china's very much junior partner. vladimir putin is totally subservient to china. he's exporting hydrocarbons at reduced prices and receiving technology. they're exchanging intelligence and conducting military exercise. the chinese foreign minister was in russia today. he's not a head of state but he met with vladimir putin. that says something about the imbalance of that bilateral relationship which russia needs more than china. the optics look strong, a year in to the war, china has not given russia the military equipment that the russians need. they're relying on iran for drones and north korea for artillery. >> martha: do you think

joining us is dan hoffman. do you assess the state of the war and the state of the region. >> we're tracking this horrific war of attrition with thousands of casualties on both sides. but really the story of the war is just the damage that russia has inflicted upon ukraine. deliberately targeting civilian neighborhoods and hospitals and maternity wards, that is why the ukraineanians are fighting on to force the russian out of their territory. but i think one story is that china is the big winner in this war right now, they are exploiting a weakened russia. which has been bloodied and beaten down, alloying china to import hydrocarbons at reduce prices, chinese don't want vladimir putin police, t-- police, they are taking advanc advantage of putin in a weaken state. trey: is the way that war being prosecuted, you mentioned the human rights violation. is this jeopardizes putin's standing within russia. >> i think there is a possibility of that happening, there is a lot of fishers right now within russia, we saw th

now to dan hoffman, fox news contributor and former c.i.a. station chief. you see the president on the ground and promising more aid. china promising lethal aid. the war machine is in high gear and diplomatic machine is in idle at this point in time. your thoughts. >> for sure. this war will be decided on the battlefield. let's be clear it has been decided. russia sought to overthrow ukraine's government within a matter of days and they failed to do it because the brave ukrainians who fought back and the west and nato has provided a lot of assistance. the president promised today howitzer shells, anti-tank weapons but what's missing is the advanced weaponry and fighter aircraft. in congress there is a bipartisan consensus to give ukraine f-16s. the administration is holding back. >> do you think the f-16s might be coming at some point in time? some intimations. first it was hard nos across the board. now suddenly there is some wiggle room apparently in this debate. >> i think there is. if you look back at the history of this conflict, there was a hard no on

first, fox team coverage, former cia station chief dan hoffman is standing by, but first, jennifer griffin at the pentagon. where are the navy's recovery efforts this hour? >> just got off a call with national security advisor john kirby who said rescue drivers have recovered some remnants from the surface waters, now en route to the fbi labs in quantico. the debris field is about 15 football fields by 15 football fields, according to kirby. faa has issued a new temporary flight restriction banning all aircraft from 100 square mile box off the coast of myrtle beach, south carolina. the u.s. navy is leading recovery efforts with the amphibious ship, and a destroyer, and cruiser, along with navy divers. the recovery will be expedited because of the shallow water, we are told. let's look back at the timeline of events. the chinese surveillance balloon was launched from the chinese mainland on january 21st. it crossed into alaska on january 28th. a senior u.s. defense official tells me it spent minutes, not hours over the territorial waters near the aleutian islands off alaska and then over ca

cia station chief dan hoffman here to weigh in. a lot of the talk is about the military base and that is the obvious. but there are other things to surveilled mapping operation gathered especially from a cia perspective. learn about infrastructure and even roadways, bridges, targets of opportunity. waterways. address that issue this balloon had a long flight path over much of the united states. hugs those are all the key questions you are asking. what i am hoping is a biden administration is going to be asking our intelligence community for a damage assessment. this was a massive chinese intelligence operation. we need to know what information they stole from us. remember they're really good at doing that. they are good at full throttle espionage against us at every turn in this country. targeting our private sector ruthlessly as well as our national security professionals. this is part of the full court press. we're going to need to know exactly what we lost and we sought to obtain from us. i suspect we will be doing that both by

stuart: dan hoffman is a former cia station chief. d we be going all in on our aid to ukraine so that they can win? >> well, i do think that we need to provide ukraine with more of the advanced weaponry that they so desperately need. but let's be clear that ukraine has successfully repelled russia's invasion. if you're looking for return on the u.s. investment to this fight and keeping ukraine in the fight, you know, russia's a strategic adversary aligned with china and north korea and ranch and ukraine -- and iran. and the invasion goes on, carries on to today, and the russians are launching indiscriminate attacks against ukrainian civil -- civilians. for ukraine, most importantly, winning means repelling russia and forcing russia to withdraw. back from the donbas and from crimea. and after they suffered so many civilian casualties and maternity wards being targeted and neighborhoods and schools, i think they have every right to do that. it's absolutely in the u.s. national interest to sport them. -- support them. the only way to get

something that they never planned to do in the first place, what do you think of that idea that dan hoffmanloated. >> i think that is that is a trick that people do i think one of the things we have to have as a principal, that we don't pay team to do something that is in their own trinterestt is in china's trump not to revived military equipment to insist on repeal of sovereignty one nation does not invade borders china's interest we should not pay for them to act consistent with that principle. >> thank you so much for joining us this morning on all breaking news we appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >> all right, we are going to take quick break we'll be right back there are futures, that could or could not shape up your tuesday trading market closed for presidents' day we'll be right back. . for businesses of all sizes, there are a lot of choices when it comes to your internet and technology needs. when you choose comcast business internet, you choose the largest, fastest reliable network. you choose advanced security for total peace of mind. and you choose a next generation 10g ne

fox news contributor dan hoffman, former c.i.a. station chief in moscow and another former c.i.a.cer and we'll start with you. ladies first, tracy welcome to the program here. let's start with the obvious. putin says they are getting out of the nuclear treaty. you have action in moscow with beijing making a visit there today and tomorrow. you have the visit yesterday on behalf of president biden. now in poland to shore up nato. where are we and where are we going and how dangerous has it become? >> i think it has become quite dangerous actually. really one of the biggest influences i see from my perspective is china. china can really act as a mediator in some of this and greenfield drew a red line in the sand yesterday by saying if china did provide lethal aid to russia it would be a red line for the u.s. so i think all of these things are conflating together but really china is one of the folks in the most precarious position and in listening to putin's speech yesterday, last night, this morning, one of the things that he -- i found quite interesting was who was not there. was re

dan hoffman spent five years in moscow. knows that sometimes twisted mindset. w big a deal is this, dan? what do you think it's like in russia as they saw this video? >> well, i think this is a big deal. russia's war, horrific, barbaric war in ukraine is the defining issue of the biden administration's foreign policy. and i can tell you for sure, intelligence community is tracking closely reflections in russia, how vladimir putin views this visit. it's clear that president biden was messaging a lot of people, including our own citizens in china, but, perhaps first and foremost, vladimir putin, that russia will not win this war of attrition, that the biden administration is emphasizing the united states is in this to the finish with support to ukraine. now, whether we actually follow up with what ukraine needs, the president promised $500 million of additional assistance. hours howitzers shells and nonee advanced welcomes. >> brian: like at attack couple. never going to give them once we give it to them we have got to train them. the lag time and the execution of

dan hoffman thinks it was a powerful adjunct. >> i think it was an addition, but not value added, and makes sense, optics for the satellites are much, much stronger and powerful. >> gillian: you think the white house, the president missed an opportunity to deter china in the future by allowing the balloon to circulate and drift over u.s. air space? >> china is going to do what ever they want in their own interest. i don't know they are going to be deterred by that, but i think it was more important for us to show resolution that hey, we are not going to let you roll something over the country and we know you are going to be parked over our strategic air force bases, and i think we should have taken it down earlier, that's my opinion. i know it would have put more at risk but i think that was something we could have handled better. >> john: you suggest it was a limited value for intelligence gathering, but a show of force. >> i would have taken it out. >> john: what mike waltz said earlier to the, being a sputnik moment. >> i hope this was a visible, tangible sputnik moment, much like

former cia station chief dan hoffman saying other adversaries iran were also watching the situation closely>> imagine terrorists who might be able to put wmd in an airball loon and fly it 30, 40, 50,000 miles above the ground. maybe that would enable them to launch a strike against us at some point. iran i'm sure is watching very closely. they have got lots of capabilities as well this is something we have to be concerned about. not just for china but all of our adversaries. >> reporter: the balloon was 60,000 feet above sea level when it was shot down. for reference a typical commercial plane cruising level is 35,000 feet. rachel: interesting. one of the interesting things, that little gag gel he had where joe biden was commented on the balloon, what is your message to china? he never answered that question. i find that very curious as well. >> reporter: definitely. he has his state of the union address on tuesday night. it will be interesting to see how he addresses this. will he tout military succession shooting down the balloon? will he sound the alarm on china threat that house republi

as china buys taiwan, dan hoffman joints as spirit in the house to investigate the political weaponization. i'm john roberts, sandra's off but gillian turner and i will see at the top of the hour on "america reports." >> kennedy: welcome back members of miami-dade board black advisory board offering ron desantis and apology. a board member tweeted out, "our governor is a racist!" remember me for saying this on the record. of course, the board had to apologize. the board's chair writing "we take it to her when they use the word racist, words matter. as chair, i must start by saying we want to pull that back here or there is nothing wrong with saying "we are sorry." that is not what we intended to say and depicted by anyone that is not the feeling of this board." the racism came after the governor rejected college board's replacement on african american history, which he said pushed a political agenda. harris, i'm glad somebody apologized. and they were board. >> harris: what he said, too, there is nothing wrong with apologizing. he had to explain that. i wonder who he was talking to? when y

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