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an exchange between paul ryan and rupert murdoch. quote, on january 12th, paul ryan discussed with rupert and atlantic lan murdoch about how the right-wing created an if alternative reality for news. and where the enablers of january 6. paul ryan believed that, quote, some high percentage of americans thought the election was stolen because they got a diet of information telling them the election was stolen from what they believed were credible sources. rupert murdoch responded to paul ryan's email, quote, thanks, paul. it is a wakeup call for hannity i who have been privately discussed for weeks and scared to lose viewers. david jolly, it is a wake-up call for everybody, including paul ryan who went along with good people on both sides, and grab them in the you know what because whether you're famous, they let you. it is a wake-up call for everybody. he remains silent. and for paul ryan, the fault line was people who believe the election was stolen and participated in january 6. but the very same thing could be said and sure sean ha

. >> but wasn't entitlement reform part of paul ryan's champ?ga. >> no, but look, we're sorting this instate ayn rand thing, where "atlas shrugged" has now become the guttenberg bible for some of these guys. i read it. i was like, this is amazing. i didn't realize it's a terrible book that's really poorly written with a lot of crazy stuff in it. so, this is where we are now. the fact that paul ryan and alan greenspan and all these people. we should not be where we are, stephanie. this is when those things where every man and woman and child now for themselves. that is the antithesis of america. it's not socialism, right, the idea of the united states was an every man for himself. it's we do what we can do for ourselves. and those who can't do for themselves, we see what we can do to help them. and this is where i think you have to understand that for paul ryan or for any of them, right, it's really about how do we help get government out of business in any way. and this isn't just the poll rinds of the world. it's a lot of the sort of weird libe

when he is trying to paint desantis with some positions like he is a paul ryan, rino, trump signed pault comes down to is trump focused and discipline enough to stay on those issues and stop ranting about an election that will be 4 years old. >> or lockdowns where desantis followed two weeks. >> trump shut down the country that was unpopular. ron desantis is not going to happe happen about this parent in los angeles area school district are furious admin administrators nixing honor english classes for freshman and sophomores, why equity. culver city high school said not enough black and hispanic students were enrolled in the honor's classes. >> they are eliminating the honors courses, they are for ap courses, it is really disempowering the students they will not be able to perform as well in the ap courses and. this is the point of many parents, why can't we provide extra support for those kids that are struggling? kennedy: that is all way want, they are take away opportunities from gifted students who deserve to be challenged. news flash. not everyone is smart. and in other news flash,

then you have paul ryan now saying that he will not attend the republican convention and this is basedlection lives saying he will not attend the republican national convention if donald trump is the nominee. i want to get your response. >> come 2020 for the republican national convention in milwaukee, where will you be? >> i will be here if it is someone not named trump. >> him, being a board member wants to move on. they are saying he will possibly lose this case. what does this mean as it relates to this lawsuit? republicans ready to move on. this is a big deal when it comes to fox news. not just the money they will lose but credibility as well. >> paul ryan is begging some sort of restraint here. rupert murdoch's testimony is disastrous. what the defense was going to be or what i thought it would be as we were covering this because it was newsworthy and we were endorsing it it. in this testimony he said, we did endorse it but he tries to draw this artificial line. it's all our anchors but not outs. what is fox, if not it's anchors, it's not going to work. >> big picture more conser

he had been deposed, but you also have paul ryan, is on the board of directors of fox corp, fox news' parent company. you're seeing that the lawyers d. and dominion's side, they're presenting through what -- they're presenting what evidence -- they're presenting ruper murdoch, you know -- and now a major corporate official, major adviser to lachland murdoch, and it's important to correct when it's done incorrectly, something that fox has not done to this day, correct the number of times in prominent ways they did this wrong. separately, paul ryan said at corporate board meetings in mid november of 2020, just days after the election, and in the heat of moments where lou dobbs, maria bartiromo are presenting claims that are pretty crazy in the moment, paul ryan saiding this an inflection point, he said to the board and to other board members, this is something that needs to be corrected. we need to not be presenting false information to the public about an issue of such import to the nation as a whole. so you're seeing dominion marshaling evidence to make its case this is not something

formerly launching her bid for presidency he said the real nikki haley highlighting her support for paul ryan's plans threatening social security. a quote from the washington post article saying haley praised ryan's proposal and so law makers should examine spending to address federal debt. again, that's not shocking remarkable. that's the view of conservatives. but now you've got the leader of the republican party, donald trump, me the same case as a democratic president in american voters should not support these prominent republicans because what they really want to do is cut social security medicare. and it's true. it's wildly unpopular. it's a perfect window into the conflict roiling in the republican party. we planned well for retirement, but i wish we had more cash. you think those two have any idea? that they can sell their life insurance policy for cash? so they're basically sitting on a goldmine? i don't think they have a clue. that's crazy! well, not everyone knows coventry's helped thousands of people sell their policies for cash. even term policies. i can't believe they're just sit

party inside and out, brendan buck, former chief communications adviser for former house speaker, paul ryanss secretary for former house speaker, john boehner, an msnbc political analyst, brendan, you need fuel less titles. and eugene daniels, political white house correspondent and coauthor of the political playbook's. so succinct. thank you. brandon, you've had your pulse on the republican party for years, how do you see the republican establishment, talking about folks on the hill, treading on the latest developments in the justice department's investigation of donald trump, including the subpoena by the special counsel of mike pence? >> mike pence is obviously considering a run for president, i think a lot of people on the hill or otherwise would love to see someone like mike pence who could give you a bit of the trump era policy without all of the complications and the crazy, but, of course, comes a lot of complications and i think this is a really tough situation for mike pence. having to navigate for donald trump for several years, it is really hard to have it both ways, and that is

he had the backing of the top grass roots and even donald trump endorsed him, and basically the paul ryanemember was a huge political issue in this race. he very fully embraced this plan. you know, the government would basically subsidize for seniors either to go out to get a private plan or to have a traditional medicare plan, and the democrats called it a voucher, and republicans called it a premium support system, and it is basically the same thing. let's take a listen to what desantis said in one of those interviews. >> i would not change social security and medicare for the people on the program or near retirement at 55 and over, just because i think that there are settled expectations there, and there are proposals like paul ryan and other people have offered that are going to, you know, provide some market forces in there and more consumer choice, and make so it that it is not just basically a system that is going to be bankrupt when you have new people coming into it. social security, you know, i would do the same thing. >>> so ultimately in congress, he did vote for the resolutio

brendon --, former press secretary to john boehner, as well as chief communications adviser to speaker paul ryan. welcome to you both. so glad to have you. >> it's so good to be in the neighborhood! thank you both very much. so jen, as you folks know, we're okay with the distance things were good just violence isn't watching here. black and white together oh my god! it feels to me a lot like what we are seeing playing out, trump trying to create this narrative and offer these kind of band-aids with the party supporting these efforts and sort of pretending that all this ugly stuff doesn't happen. the party thinks they're gonna solve this with some kind of oh hey, just take a loyalty pledge and it's all good. >> i watched that interview and i thought oh that's so sweet. we're going back in time the 2012, to the republican party that i think both of you were proud members of. where that is a very new normal thing, for a party chair of either party to say at the end of the slots band together and support our nominee, because that's of course how you bring the public together. but we're not in 2012.

. >> and donna, let's listen to what the former house speaker, paul ryan, had to say about not backingif he's the nominee. >> national convention in milwaukee, where will you be? >> depends on who the nominee is. i'll be here if it's somebody not named trump. >> you won't show up. >> no, not participating in that, no. >> even in wisconsin? >>. >> even in wisconsin. >> donna, we see the republican party divided over the issue of donald trump. most important issue dividing the potential candidates. >> i think paul ryan was very clear but i think some of these other republicans have not been clear at all. and i'm not really sure that it matters. i mean, i do think for example with that pledge, it's as good as the paper it's written on. it can be burned at any moment. i think that mike pence, nikki haley and ron desantis all have the same problem as these other candidates jump into the race is that none of them are willing to directly challenge donald trump. and so how does that eat away at his base at all? i see a clear path unless that happens that donald trump is going to be the nominee

fox has a board which oversees its ceo in theory, and one of the top members is former speaker paul ryan, who told rupert and laughlin murdoch, the bosses, that fox news should not be spreading conspiracy theories. but the lies apparently rated, and while i told you murdoch is wylie, he still is admitting things under oath. he admits the truth gave way to the pressure of trump's following and he would have stupid to antagonize them with the truth about trump's loss as the weeks went on. fox also his economic executives discussing a profit motive. that's murdoch's example of a specific case of letting a known liar back on the air, mike inlegal did. >> i have been all in trying to find the machine fraud, and we found it. i have the evidence. i dared people to put it on. i dared dominion to sue me because then it would get out faster. >> he dared dominion to sue. ta-da. that's what they did, suing the more powerful and important platform on which he spewed those lies and that now poorly, poorly aging dare, dominion's suing fox. they also, around the same interview, show that tucker carlson

formerly launching her bid for presidency he said the real nikki haley highlighting her support for paul ryan'sning social security. a quote from the washington post article saying haley praised ryan's proposal and so law makers should examine spending to address federal debt. again, that's not shocking remarkable. that's the view of conservatives. but now you've got the leader of the republican party, donald trump, me the same case as a democratic president in american voters should not support these prominent republicans because what they really want to do is cut social security medicare. and it's true. it's wildly unpopular. it's a perfect window into the conflict roiling in the republican party. don't worry. sell with confidence to opendoor. yes! -done. request a cash offer at opendoor.com >> woman: why did we choose safelite? >> vo: driving around is how we get our baby to sleep, -done. so when our windshield cracked, we trusted the experts. they focus on our safety... so we can focus on this little guy. >> singers: ♪ safelite repair, safelite replace. ♪ step up. prep up. to help keep you

here's the paul ryan email. this is the top. you don't usually see this stuff. quote, ryan believes some high percentage am americans thought the election was stolen because they got a diet of information tell them the election was stolen from what they believe were credible sources. murdoch responds, wakeup call for hannity who's been privately disgusted by trump for weeks but was scared to lose viewers. what do you see here, will? >> i think there's so much interesting stuff in these ma teerls. you talk about fox news as a wing of the republican party. one of the most striking things has been an email where murdoch said, let's just focus on lekking republican senators in georgia. you can watch an hour of fox news and get the sense they're trying to help republicans, but to have it put that plainly i think is remarkable. additionally, you really see it laid out there, that desperation where fox is kind of stuck between the truth and risk of the liable lawsuit and their viewers. so in this new filing we see fox executives freaking out about the ratings. we see r

with so many people in the republican party is that they just can't quit this kind of george bush/paul ryan-style -- they got into politics because they want to end the new deal. they want to go to war with entitlement programs. it's what really drives a lot of them. >> yeah, michelle, you mentioned that, and people remember all of these sort of tributes to paul ryan and the sort of the way it was discussed as if somehow he's the only person who could balance a budget and nobody else is responsible but then we lived through both in the bush and trump eras a lot of spending in a different way, right, spending on tax cuts and the debt that way. here's how mccarthy is talking about it. >> they took our nation's credit card, spent like crazy and left us in deep debt. but not once did they seek or accept any responsibility. instead, they doubled down. in 2021 democrats passed the largest debt limit increase in american history. >> that's just moments ago and libby was mentioning how mccarthy is doing the pre-buttal. your thoughts on that and whether it is on the level. michelle. >> look, none of

in an email to paul ryan after that january 6th attack on the capitol, he said that it was, quote, the wake up call for hannity, who has been privately disgusted by trump for weeks, but was scared to lose viewers. and so there is rupert murdoch, his boss, the owner of sean hannity's microphone, saying that sean hannity has been privately disgusted by trump for weeks. another way of saying that, as sean hannity has been wildly lying to his audience about trump for weeks, privately disgusted. sean hannity? privately? john hannity plays a disgusted guy on tv, every single night had his life. he plays a guy disgusted by something, or everything. on the left side of american politics, discussed in sean hannity's brand. the good news is that sean hannity had the basic human decency to be disgusted by donald trump. the bad news is that rupert murdoch built the propaganda machine in which he and sean hannity could get very rich. as long as they only privately were disgusted by donald trump. it's the same thing with tucker carlson, who was shown in a previous dominion filing to beg the then mor

and an msnbc legal analyst, and brendan buck served as an aide to former republican house speaker paul ryan and john boehner and is an msnbc political analyst. so tally, mike pence has talked extensively about that day even including it in his book, but how different is it, and how important is this investigation to get him under oath to answer questions? >> it's incredibly important, chris, because i think it's clear from all of the reporting that there is information that mike pence has and only mike pence has that is relative to the heart of what happened on january 6th that is to say one on one conversations he had with donald trump that day and likely also in the days proceeding. i think that this is important because if pence or trump were to challenge the subpoena say on grounds of executive privilege, the justice department would have to show that there was a demonstrated need to get it from him, that they couldn't have gotten this information any other way. and i think that they are going to be able to do that based on everything that we've heard, that he is the only person who can

. -- if the white house juror -- -- is an msnbc -- four former speaker paul ryan. welcome. think anybody had another aerial object on their bingo card this afternoon. there is just a lot we don't know about these objects shot down since friday. there have been three. what are the biggest questions that you have? >> there are a ton of questions, first, who owns these various objects? are they all owned by the same person or actor, are they government-owned, are they owned by individuals? is the military just on higher alert than what they would've been because of the chinese spy balloon? or are we seeing more instances of these kinds of actions and is this a sign of some kind of coordinated effort? there are many different questions. it's not surprising that members of congress and the public are calling for more transparency. they want the administration to say what they know. the administration understands that we are trying to -- that involves going into some of these sparse, rugged terrains to try to figure out where these things land and what they were, put them back to

. >> i would embrace proposals, you know, like paul ryan offered and other people have offered that arere, more consumer choice. social security, you know, i would do the same thing. me getting social security at 65 or 67, if i'm going into live into my yagts is probably not sustainable. >> that's his view, that was the vow. he then voted for budget plans to slow the future spending for social security. all of this heating up because republicans were claiming that biden was lying by referring to some republicans' records on social security. but the tape don't lie. >> that's the democrat talking points. >> no, no, it's in the plan. it's in the plan. >> but here's this -- let's talk about reality. >> senator, hang on. it's not a democratic talking point. it's in the plan. >> the plan, the reality, that was a fact check, courtesy of fox news there. the facts matter, because this turns on how politicians are using their power and what comes next if voters say okay, we heard you. we see you. don't accuse other people of lying when you're coming after our safety net. and that's always up to t

you used to work for speaker paul ryan.ght will get a briefing. i was on meet the press during that jim hines interview. there is no gang of eight briefing that happened because the house is out for two weeks. in this scenario, what happens? should we be -- are you concerned about some of these extremist members and their wild conspiracy theories? we should all be taking this seriously. >> jim hines obviously makes a good point. it doesn't need to be members of congress. there are lots of people who will be spreading conspiracy theories. i have concerns on both sides here. the administration is obviously not saying a whole lot. it's rare that you get both the republicans -- criticizing the administration saying we need more information. either they don't know a whole lot, which is concerning on its own, how are these things happening, we just don't know about it? let's figure out why that is. or they do figure that they do know things and are unwilling to talk about. it we are learning a lot about these things from tweets,

you have statements nikki haley and ron desantis made, when speaker paul ryan was advocating for somef these cuts, being in favor of them, that former president trump is now leveraging as opposition against some of his republican or would be rivals. it has shifted so quickly from entitlement reform to we will not touch any of this, which makes sense politically. if there's one thing we have learned it's that voters hate things being taken away from them, even voters who hated obamacare, when you tried to take away some of the health benefits, they did not like that. yamiche: it is a critical point when you think about what voters are think about and what will impact their lives. as we talk about health, there was the physical exam president biden put out my he was healthy and vigorous -- i hope my doctor would say that about me. are democrats worried that this is the possible achilles' heel for president biden. his numbers have been struggling but he is popular in his own party. talk about t decision to put this out and what the report might mean. zolan: when you ask about any topic,

yes, paul ryan, good for him.e has no more you-know-whats to give, and maybe he will be a person who helps lead some to say the same thing. we will see. >> when you even talk about the nra -- >> really good parallel. >> -- legislation, sometimes 60%, 70% of nra members support legislation that the republican party kills. mika, it is insanity. it's not even worrying about the base because 60% of republicans don't want donald trump to run. it's just fearing your own shadow. >> you have to wonder what's going on. >>> now to this. newspapers across the country dropped the comic strip days after the creator made comments that are said to be discriminatory and racist. the cartoonist described people who are black as members of a hate group from which white people should get away. those comments came in response to a report surveying 53% of black respondents agreeing with the statement, "it's okay to the white," while 26% disagreed. various media publishers nationwide denounced the comments as racist, hateful and discrim

. >> paul ryan writes to rupert murdoch, you have to stop this, you are damaging your own brand and ruiningthe country. rupert murdoch responds: thanks, paul. wake up call for hannity privately disgusted by trump for weeks but scareed to lose viewers. it is inexcusable. >> privately disgusted. private not so much. when i covered it, so much evidence showed fox played some sort of role, hosts discussing election lie. january 6th panel continuously mentioning. they kind of drop bread crumbs. when i was sitting in the hearing room, whether live testimony of one of the rioters or tape interviews, how baked in the misinformation was. yes, i believed that the election was stolen. i kept thinking, how do they get to that point they stormed the cap capitol? this is a personification what we heard from rupert murdoch, misinformation did lead to these events. >> it has been a long, long, long time especially prime time, fox is about opinion. rupert murdoch specifically named sean hannity, and maureen and lou dobbs. >> it will be impossible to ever know the true, fair, accurate election results. >> sy

he was on record and voting for entitlement changes and part of paul ryan's budget.t this interesting eye license with trump and biden together that they may rough up desantis in the primary a little bit or maybe to either or both of their advantages. >> speaking of 2024, tomorrow we'll have reporters from south carolina and iowa to give us the lay of the ground. we are close to all kicking off, josh. this poll between desantis who's not in and former president trump who is. if it is head to head, desantis wins, if it is a number of different candidates, the former president is on top in the polls. your thoughts on how this is shaping up since former president is the only one in the race currently. >> yeah, i know, i watched earlier in the show and we had all the various potential candidates all taking a shot at ron desantis. despite not being a declared candidate at this point, he's certainly getting the front runner treatment as everybody from president trump and who ever trying to take their best shots around desantis. i think that tells you more about how the fie

it will be going against gop elites, whether it's mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, trying to tie that elitet of the party to ron desantis and to whoever else he's going an. we should point out, ron desantis hasn't declared yet. it's nikki haley and trump. people think tim scott is likely to get involved, make mike pompeo and of course the 400 point gorilla, ron desantis. he's going to try to attach that elite status to his republican opponents as he's likely to do in the general election against biden and the democrats. this is interesting. watch how he comes out, how he phrases stuff. he is already making noises about republican elites, that he doesn't like them. you can see how he trying to attach desantis to them. i can tell you one thing, neil and i did a lot of reporting from the super bowl with -- the super bowl is a great game, right? it's got the festivities and everything else. it's a meeting place of a lot of billionaires. one of the thing coming outs of the ownership class, and they skew republican, they think donald trump is going to go against the elites, some of the sentiment

congress where he voted for paul ryan's budget blueprint. the blueprint called for entitlement reforms. mr. biden is warning mr. desantis he will pummel him with his history should he run. let's bring in steve hilton host of the next revolution. is all of this a fight about the substance of social security and medicare or is it the first fight of the 2024 political season? >> a clearance, it is not about the substance or the policy, it is about the politics. the one rule that you can be sure of in politics is that the most important thing for any candidate or party is to control the agenda, to control the conversation, what is being discussed. very difficult to persuade people there is not that many persuadeable voters one way or the other. what you can do is shape the debate and what the democrats are trying to do. every minute that our national conversation is about medicare and social security, democrats are winning and republicans are losing. the smart strategy for republicans is turn it around on democrats and show the public what the f

i think of paul ryan pushing grandma off of the end of the cliff in that advertisement.find interesting though is that everybody agrees that these programs have to be dealt with, don't they, robert? they have to be dealt with? >> no question. i think we have a budget coming un, the president will put his -- the house should put theirs under mccarthy. the real issue is if we're not going to touch the safety net of over country. social security, medicare and medicaid, which is about 75% of the budget and not touch military spending, which is another 15%, you're down to nondiscretionary, discretionary only. to put that in the budget would take ten years. you'd have to cut 85% of all of that over the next ten years. we know that will never happen. >> martha: he's saying let's just find -- let that be the beginning point. look at some of the discretionary spending. there's a ton of fat in there. >> i'm in total agreement. steve and i have talked about it. let's get everyone in line. vote up and down every line item. i guarantee no one would go in congress. >> i know one them

his social media platform clearly going after desantis saying desantis loves losers like jeb push, paul ryanogue, his words, and getting clobbered in the polls like me. desantis is a rino that wants to avoid his past. >> trump is doing something smart. he's using his truth social platform. that's really the base of the base reading this, trying to draw out that a ron desantis is a rino, not who you think he is. he's talked about closing of beaches, support for ukraine, different things that rally the base of the base. one quick thing i want to say is ron desantis has a great general election thing he can run on. florida is getting more people moving from other parts of the country than any state, thriving economy, strong tax situation. >> congressman, you can now jump in on the general election argument i cut you off on rudely before. there was a republican that steve and the others, those who did the story, quoted to them, gave a quote saying they're concerned that desantis and his war against wokeness and this war against this african american studies course in florida, the worry he's bein

. >> but if you talk to paul ryan, if you talk to senator rick scott, if you actually look at the pieral budget, they will say there is no other way to do it than to actually tackle entitlement. >> at this position that the republicans are now taking on medicare and social security at such a testament to the influence of former president donald trump, who ran against the ryan, mitt romney, rick scott version of the republican party, at least on federal spending, and it's indicative of his influence, even though his run hasn't exactly caught fire so far for 2024, who is giving the response tonight? is former white house press secretary. >> let's bring in our senior white house correspondent ed o'keefe on this matter because i know you took notice about that particular discussion on those entitlement reforms. >> that was one of the most fascinating exchanges, partly because it was unscripted, but also because it was an acknowledgment by republicans that, no, they're not going to do that and they are not going to do that after suffering for suggesting for doing so for the last 20 years o

. >> kayleigh: ari we so with paul ryan who is vp nominee for mitt romney here they have this image ofndmother off of a cliff. it was false and totally mischaracterized, but they are trying this plan and they are trying it now. will it work? >> ari: it might work because republicans historically have been like that on these issues peer of the pushback against joe biden spontaneously at the state of the union pure joe biden brought that on himself. joe biden is the man who came before the american people and said, "my whole soul is for unity." but his whole mouth health is for misrepresentation. [laughter] we have a republican president going to the state of the union and i know not all if you are socialist but most of your socialist because alexandria ocasio-cortez is a socialist. or saying, i know you are not anti-cement but you democrats are anti-semites because ilhan omar is anti-semantic. so they found one with a proposal years ago and all federal legislation who has said he would not sunset social security. the purpose being that every law should have a review, every law should be

she supported paul ryan's plan to trim medicare and social security.d she's weak on immigration. she did not support the transgender bathroom bill. says she flip-flops on 2024. she's got his attention. >> welcome to the race. she knew all of these things were coming. this was a hometown crowd of people who twice elected her as governor of south carolina in a historic move of its own. she has a clear base of supporters there. the question is, as she moves down the field here, she'll be in iowa next week, what's her reception there? there is no doubt there is an appetite for a new generation of leaders. she spoke to that. i almost lost track of the number of double entendres. she did say something interesting. she wanted to have a mental acuity test for politicians over 75. she could have said 80. that would have applied to biden. she said 75. she will have to straddle that line of maga supporters. i was struck she came onto the stage with the song "eye of the tiger." that is the song newt gingrich played again and again and he won south carolina in 2012

he loves those are like jeb bush, paul ryan, and call road. and is getting clobbered in the polls, by me. desantis is a rhino who's trying to hide his past. what do you think? >> i often hear the spot desantis. he doesn't have the charisma, he's not could be as great on the campaign trail. i just don't know that voters are going to be looking for charisma. and there are lot wouldn't think that donald trump had christmas 24 splash onto the scene. >> we he has got results to show. look at what he is done in florida. he has turned republican deep red. it was a swing state until reached elections. he won miami by double digits. when recently heather clinton won that city by double digits. so, he is dusen that is pretty remarkable for republicans. from to be coming out of nowhere and leading the pack, substantially, except for donald trump. it says something and what he is doing is he got his finger on this cultural pulse with the whole woke ideology. which is where they could retain the governments getting into your lives and away but it never did

you can take a look at what works and what doesn't work but now the good have to bring up the old paul ryan reese pushing grandma off the cliff, it's nonsense. >> it brings us to a broader thing i felt this in the state of the union this is a president who's really talking about tax-and-spend expanding all kinds of programs with really no clear-cut plan of where he would get the funding to do that aside from going after corporations tax and buybacks he wants to go after the billionaires to me i'm looking at this you want to push us down this road toward socialism even more and now you're talking about wealth redistribution to a certain extent to pay for. >> goes by the division in the country i think the administration is good to be a division of our country they have you don't we're going to take over going to get is a redistribution issue. the other issue i want to go to what chris picked on sunsetting provision those of us that a bit of washington, d.c. and see how the appropriations are done their stuff is up and reauthorized in years and it keeps coming back instead of going back and s

paul ryan's plans at the time he was the chairman to oversee this and the plans became a reality in a that democrats seized on and headed into 2012 and no doubt barack obama used a lot of similar messaging in terms of the protection of these benefits against the republicans. perhaps history will repeat itself. this serves both the long term and short term for president biden. when rick scott rolled out the plan two things happened. the white house immediately grabbed on saying we will run on this in '22 and '24. the republican plan. and simultaneously mitch mcconnell put his head in his hands. there's agreement on the political potency. >> listen to mitch mcconnell really like slamming rick scott. these two men do not like each other right now. >> it's clearly the rick scott plan. it is not the republican plan. it is a bad idea. i think it will be a challenge for him to deal with this in florida, a state with more elderly people than any other state in america. >> mcconnell has been around for so long and like joe biden and they know the programs are things that people vote on. if you

you have former house speaker paul ryan, gone. mitch mcconnell is on his way out.lectual-ism of, how do conservatives to themselves, and what does that definition look like when applied in the legislative process? and i think you have some of the more established right winners saying, wait a minute here, we need to be more consistent than we were, 50 20 years. ago that we have the more populous nationalistic views. people, saying no, we want to completely transform what conservativism it means, how we legislate under that ideological umbrella. i think that 2024 will probably signal it more clearly, the distinction, whether or not rich which element ideologically wins within the, battle sam. >> it is about as wild and beautiful as an abstract art behind you. jane scott, thank you about. eugene, scott senior politics reporter at axios. and shermichael singleton, host of the shermicheal show on sirius xm. that does it for me, thank you for watching velshi. you can catch a velshi and super important right at 10 am next weekend it is a brand new time slot. the one and o

look about the one thing that paul ryan kept telling rupert murdoch revealed in his testimony yesterday the board of fox news, trying to urge executives to back away from claims and he was unable to do so successfully. i think the big thing to watch here is that concept of endorsing, though. when you endorse something, is that different from just explaining it as the news? part of fox news' defense they were just explaining it as a newsworthy topic but the revelations from yesterday shows this is potentially a lot further than endorsement. >> dave, it seems like murdoch was walk ago fi line by saying this wasn't just endorsed by fox news but by hosts. will that be a successful argument and defense for him, seemingly throwing some of the his talent under the bus? >> yeah, that top talent is working for him, they're agents in the company. so it's really bad that he admitted under oath that, yes, his own people endorsed the big lie. meanwhile, his lawyers are saying they just put the crazy people on, the sidney powells of the world, rudy giulianis and let them speak. and this is an amendme

she supported paul ryan's plan for entitlement reform, threatening medicare and social security, according to the trump campaign. they have a long list of things she's done that don't fit with the maga approach. >> yeah. it's going to be an interesting dance for both people here, trump and haley. first haley where there's call for generational change, get rid of tired, old, stale leadership. that could be aimed at donald trump. she has plausible deniability. there will be shots across the bow of haley. we should also note that the theory of the case here for trump and his advisors is, the more candidates jump in, the better it is for him. the more diluted the field is, the better there's a chance he can get through it with just his solid core base, that base that never seems to leave him. i think we will see encouraging notes for pompeo and bolton and pence or whoever. they will take shots, too. the more people that get in, the better for trump to get through this. >> that's what happened last time. what does this say about the larger field? you have seen them up there on the screen, tim s

mitch mcconnell, paul ryan, ron desantis. i could go down the list.going to be the his message. i don't know if it works. if it's a one-on-one match ifup, it probably doesn't work -- matchup. if it's 20 people, it could work because donald has that base. neil: right. >> but it's going to be a nasty campaign. and especially if desantis gets in. by the way, he's not in yet, right? neil: no, he's not. what's that line we use in this business, charlie? time will tell. >> time will el the, yes. [laughter] neil: thank you, my friend, for joining us on a saturday. charlie gasparino calling from his estate right now. he's an elite. our friend. >>> all right, in the meantime, far from saying that this storm problem the country has been having is over, just talk to anyone from the midwest all the way to california and even in the los angeles area that it's easing up. it's not. lower your monthly payments with the 3 c's. pay down your credit cards. pay off your car loan. consolidate your debt with a va home loan from newday. ♪ the only thing i regret about my li

former president trump wasted no time in attacking haley, trying to tie her to hillary clinton and paul ryan clear front-runners, donald trump and former governor ron desantis. trump leads in one recent poll, 46-23 in a wild field, but when it narrows down to two candidates, trump and desantis, trump's lead narrows dramatically. how will the 2024 republican field be? former governor of maryland, larry hogan. welcome back to "meet the press." >> good morning. usually i reserve the questions for the end, but i'll ask up front here. have you made a decision? >> i haven't. i said i'll take a pretty serious look at this, and i'm traveling around the country just trying to get a feel for what republican voters want, that what americans are looking for, and we'll make a decision in a relatively short period of time. >> i'm interested on what republican voters want. right now if you watch the other potential rivals, it does seem there's only one issue that seems to be unifying on the base, and that's sort of these culture wars and education. here's a sampling. >> go read books like "gender queer" an

paul ryan when he was speaker very much wanted to turn medicare into a voucher system and republicansr and over they want to cut entitlements which include social security and medicare. so i know that speaker mccarthy says that isn't on the table this time, but that's always why president biden feels he has the upper hand, because of the long list of history and trying to push republicans to name specifically what they want to cut. >> yet it's not that far down the road where medicare and social security need solvency help. they just do. this is mike rounds, a republican, who says if we're having this political fight, we're not going to get to the substance. >> a golden opportunity in a bipartisan way to put social security on a long-term plan that would make it better in the future than what it is today, and to assure its longevity. but you do that by managing it. you do that by actually talking about it and not doing dog calls every time somebody says let's try to address managing it. >> he's blaming the president for dog calls now, but the only way to do this in the past, anyway, h

democratic member of congress in the most republican district of new york because republicans even then, paul ryan would talking about changing medicare and making it harder for seniors. there are consequences. republicans will lose elections if they continue to tamper with something that has been a right of our seniors for decades and decades. so the president is correct, and he also talked to us about the debt ceiling, that you should not tamper with our faith and good credit because it has way -- consequences beyond our boundaries. it has a global effect. republicans stop playing games, work with the president, continue delivering money and projects to create good paying jobs in this country, bring the jobs back home. create the supply chain here so there's so much we can do together. so they should stop playing games, stop scaring our seniors is what they're doing, and work with the president to get the job done. >> i want to move on now to this issue embroiled new york city and the mayor there, eric adams, has asked for more state support, more federal support to deal with the issue of migran

paul ryan put a budget in place in 2012 that would have changed these programs.ery conservative budgets but would have changed the programs to make them more solvent in his view, and he got completely destroyed for that. of course this is a huge problem and it's something that nobody wants to deal with. and the tide has turned. the script has flipped in a way, now republicans are pretty much across the board saying we're not going to touch medicare, we're not going to touch social security. ten years ago, eleven years ago, every republican was saying we need to touch these programs, make them more solvent, make them stronger for the next generation. >> talk to me about when they start addressing immigration in terms of the economy. when they start to talk about getting more immigration so they can shore up the tax base, that is a conversation i want to hear about. jake sherman, thank you very much. >>> and coming up, did governor desantis go too far. the protest he's facing at the florida state capitol today. >>> and nicky haley is in, and she's not so subtly att

you'll also remember one time presidential candidate paul ryan made reforming those programs a key parthis political identity which at the time a lot of republicans agreed with, including senator mike lee of utah. this is him back in 2010 in a clip the white house resurfaced to rebut lee's incredulous expression at the state of the union. >> it will be my objective to phase out social security, to pull it up by the roots. people who advise me politically always tell me that's dangerous, and in that case, it's not worth my rung. that's why i'm doing this, to get rid of that, medicare and medicaid are of the same sort and need to be pulled up. >> february 2010 there on the right-hand side of the screen. just like senator scott, senator lee says this was taken out of its full context. he also says it is not the position he currently supports. but political spats have never been good with nuance, a truth that often cuts both ways, which is what makes this moment so interesting. president biden seems to have found an early cudgel for his campaign, using on tuesday, wednesday, and today on th

they've been floating like paul ryan floated increasing the age, others said we have to cut benefit.glad with republicans are saying they don't want to do that. >> so i want to ask you about new york democratic mayor eric adams. yesterday he said that, quote, woke democrats have caused the democratic party, again his words, to hemorrhage latino and asian american voters. today he doubled down and here is what he said. >> we've allowed a small number that are the loudest and they've hijacked the true meaning of the democratic party. we're not for defunding the police. we're not for attacking businesses. >> you know, yesterday he was very clear with the word woke, he didn't like it. he didn't like it had done to the party. congressman, has the quote woke hijacked the democrat party as the mayor of the new york says? >> person who still defines the essence of the democratic party was barack obama. he was patriotic, aspirational, hopeful but he believed in a multiracial democracy where everyone had a place. and that to me is the essence of it. when you hear president obama speak, he talk

paul ryan was correct when he did the tax code, what's the first thing he decided we had to go after?security and medicare. now, we need to do something about social security and medicare. elizabeth: monica, that last sound bite was from 2018. what do you think? >> yeah. you know what? this is what you get when you have someone who's been in office for for a half a century. those past positions and statements will always come back to haunt you. and, look, joe biden was part of a different democratic party back then. now it's the more of a revolutionary socialist party, and he is where all of the energy and activism are on that radical left. look, joe biden goes where the political winds will blow him, but what we've seen over the last couple of years is that, you know, it's absolutely necessary. his original position was correct, you do need to re-examine these programs and shore them up to make sure that we don't have a total collapse of them. you know, all of these democrats really embrace these entitlement programs, and they are guaranteed to the american people but not permanently