-- against alec that the prosecution said could have opened up more legal troubles for alec and possiblyxposed some of these financial crimes that he has admitted to. but, because of all those things and because he did not want any of that information to be exposed, the prosecution laid out to the jury that he concocted this plan to kill his wife and son not only to distract attention away from these financial crimes but to also gain sympathy from the community who would then focus on this man who lost his family and, you know, focus on trying to figure out who committed these murders. you talk about means. the prosecution laid out to the jury that it was alec who had, you know, access to his son and his wife. he called them to the property on the night of the murders. it was alec who had -- who had access to those dog kennels and he later admitted being down there and, you know, we saw the jury come back and a good amount of time with that guilty verdict, jesse. >> jesse: you have been down there for a little while. you mentioned the community. are there murdaugh supporters at the court

did alec said call me if you up. did chris say alec said i have to ask a question. let's talk about this. no. chris brought up some case that was mundane. it was mundane. manufacturing an alibi. he's calling anybody that will answer the phone for these short conversations and one of the first things out of his mouth in the first interview. look at my phone. i called this person, i called this person, i called this person. he's manufacturing this alibi. also, throughout all of this, all of this relevant time period, you can see from the dylan hightower extraction, you can see all of these calls that are deleted from the extraction. they're deleted. which occurred on june 10. what is up with that? on the way back, these are defense exhibits 141 and 142, rolling heavy at 75 to get there. i'm sure the defense will point out that that 80 miles an hour was a peak. still running good there. what is he in a hurry about in the dark? doing 80 miles an hour at 9:5 9:51:42, rolling 80 when he texted chris, call me if you're up. his peak speed. he arrives at alameda. this is imp

alec, the lawyer, alec the prosecutor, alec is manufacturing an alibi and also manufacturing the fact guns used but we know, unlike the expert they called from connecticut where they can't even get ars who doesn't know about people riding around on property, and paul and the two guns he likes to use, about this family, and how common those guns are together says, well, his only conclusion, it would be impractical for somebody to fire out of the club. this is him, this is alec, the prosecutor, the lawyer, he's thinking through this, he's thought through this, he's going to use two guns because it's going to confusion people that perhaps there were two shooters, but again, it doesn't make sense. two family weapons? but he thinks paul shot, and you heard the testimony that paul hears the feed room doorway. is alex putting down the shotgun to pick up the blackout, and is startled by paul, and that's why the angle is like that, and catches paul like that, and goes up into the ceiling, as you've heard the testimony, and blows his brains out. and what happens with maggie right here? what's t

i think that alec murdaugh defense team are going to throw everything into that appeal. the admission of the 404b financial times which was and creighton waters and the team did the right call to admit that evidence. it is the subject of the appeal as and then it will be in effectiveness of counsel, and two separate issues he can take up post sentencing, and this is going to be a long road ahead for alec murdaugh. i do believe ta the de -- that decisions that he made in the trial were the right decisions. >> and speaking to you, bernardo, that when i got the notice on my phone that the jury came down because she had to go in, and there were two people who were guilty, and one that was tighted. let's listen to what the juror said. >> when you got into the room, you first took a vote? >> yes, it was two not guilty and one not sure and nine guilty. >> what was your vote? >> guilty. we started to deliberating and going through the evidence, and everybody was pretty much talking. and about 45 minutes later after all of our deliberating, we figured it out. >> and he said that

so there are additional pleas going forward that are dealing with alec murdaugh. so some of the people coming out, they are coming in from the area, and their fascination with the fall from power. i spoke with an attorney who represents ten of the alleged financial victims, and he said it is not a fall from grace or power, but it is a jump. just to see how quickly this has unraveled with alec murdaugh admitting on the stand with a decade of lying and stealing on the stand. it is important to note that he has been convicted and that he has never hurt maggie or paw-paw, and obviously, the jury is not convinced by the testimony. >> yeah. such important context, dianne. and we appreciate the excellent reporting over the days and months as we bring you back in with the panel. sarah ford, we were waiting to see whether there would be any victim impact statements, and not a single one. was that surprising to you? >> i don't think that it is surprising. the victims have an opportunity to speak if they want, and they have the opportunity to choose not to. because there is

they didn't get it off alec's. now, if alec had not made those requests to owen -- and they are disputing that -- there's one thing you can be 100% sure of is they would have called detective owen up here on the witness stand during their rebuttal case to say, no, he lied. he didn't ask that of me. they got sheriff smalls in here to say i didn't give him permission to put a blue light in his car. they came and challenged whether he had authority from the sheriff or maybe a deputy sheriff to put a blue light in his car. they didn't contradict anything about i've been asking, i've been asking, i've been asking for this data that would get me out of this circle. and now we know why it took so long to get the stuff from this car, it's because the fbi wouldn't go to general motors on this event data. they were -- the fbi bought a suburban, riding around and reverse engineering all these systems to try to come up with reports, and then they come in here and tell you some of it's inaccurate, but this is what we've got. du

you have been watching closing arguments in alec murdaugh case. of course the prosecution presenting these closing arguments led by chief prosecutor creighton waters. i'm yasmin vossoughian in for katy tur. really going through the case in the last couple of hours, starting at midday or so, presenting of course reasonable doubt knowing that the jury very much could foil the prosecution's arguments here by reasonable doubt, going into the motive here. this was a man in incredible financial distress, a man that was going through withdrawal because of his drug addictions, the time line, and then of course the lies. the discovery of that snapchat video and then the discovery that, in fact, alec murdaugh was the man who was the third voice that was heard in the snapchat video. i want to bring in nbc news senior legal correspondent laura jarrett, and south carolina criminal defense attorney jack swirly as well, a close associate of murdaugh defense attorney, dick harpootlian. we have been watching this thing all day. what has stood out to you so far in

the alec, the lawyer, alec the prosecutor, alec who is thinking through that will see he's manufacturingi and also manufacturing the fact there's two guns used but we know unlike the expert they called from connecticut, they can't even get ars, don't even know about people riding around on the property and the two guns he likes to use, and the family and how common those guns are together, says well, his only conclusion is it would be practical for somebody to fire out the clip. this is him, this is alec, the prosecutor, the lawyer and he's thinking through that. he's thought through that. he's going to use two guns because it's going to confuse people that perhaps there were two shooters. it doesn't make sense. two family weapons? but he thinks paul is shot and you heard the testimony that paul appears in the feed room doorway as alec is putting down that shotgun to pick up the blackout and a startled by paul and that's why the angle is like that, and catches paul like that, and goes up into the ceiling as you've heard the testimony from kenzie and blows -- blows his brains out. and wha

that, the little detective, specifically in reference to paul paying attention and trying to keep alec from taking pills. why would he bring that up? that's an interesting thing to bring up because that was what that was in reference to, and what do we know, we know that in may, if we talk about all the pressures that are coming upon him, all these financial things we have talked about, this exhausting hamster wheel going on forever, the need to beg, borrow and steal, one step ahead, and running out of options. on top of that, paul sends a text to him mom found some pills, we need to talk. mom found some pills and we need to talk. another pressure from paul and maggie on him. and if you look at the texts, the weekend of the ball game on june the 7th, and those are in evidence, alec is not at the game and he's texting back and forth and maggie is like don't come if you feel bad, and he's like well, you know, i think i can get a late checkout and then like at 1:00 they made me leave. i submit to you it's a [inaudible] they were watching him like a hawk. opiates, the most powerful of with

alec murdaugh. was that a convincing argument? >> you know, it's the argument that they have to make, right? if they're flipping, going first, i'd rather be on the defensive side. you have an expert that said the evidence was more consistent with two shooters. and then you have two different guns. you would think generally that someone who is committing a planned atrocious murder would use one weapon. doesn't mean he didn't use two >> neil: ted williams if you are still with me, you need, you need more evidence, and i understand that you can build cases and substantial circumstances is good enough. but again, the kind of things you would link either gone residue on alex murdaugh's person or a timeline that would show he couldn't have committed the murders but he would have to move quickly. i don't know if that all connects. does it need to connect? it needs to connect and they need to connect something that even mark said earlier that i agree with. if he was in close proximity with two guns and he blasted these people, there would

alec murdaugh has admitted that he lied. he admitted that he has stolen from the most vulnerable people he represented as well as his closest friends. he insists he's not a murderer and all it takes is one juror on that panel to have doubts to prevent him from being convicted. >> yeah, on the right-hand side of the screen, we have live images that jury instructions are about to be read. i want your take on the concept of the defense putting forth this witness. it seems like the jury wants to blame somebody. so the defense is saying, it could very well have been alec murdaugh's drug dealer that committed these killings. jonathan, hold on a second. let's go to the court. the judge is now speaking. >> i will now explain to you the law that applies to this case. under the constitution and laws of south carolina, you are the finders of the facts in this case. i do not have the right to pass upon the facts or to even express any opinion that i might have as to them. this is a matter soly for you the jury to determine. as jurors, i

here's what he said. >> i think alec murdaugh was our biggest piece of evidence.he took the stand, i think that was fatal for him ultimately. obviously he had created a web of lies for over a decade that led to this culminating point in this trial. >> there you have it, wilson himself saying that, you know, when murdaugh got on the stand to testify, he really opened himself up. it's interesting because i asked murdaugh's attorneys about that decision, and they pretty much acknowledged it was one of those situations where it's damned if you do, and alec murdaugh convinced himself had he been convicted of the murders and not testified, that was a decision he would regret for the rest of his life. you have to wonder if that's a decision he's going to regret for the rest of his life nonetheless. >> i talked to a south carolina lawyer earlier in the show who said basically, the family they were in there all the time. so much of their success was tied to that courthouse, maybe he thought that was what was going to turn it for him. craig, tonight, right? date line, don't

alec was the defendant. i had to play his 911 call.scene. had to play the statements where he's -- too much internalize what the injured, without them thinking critically about what he was saying. on the other hand, i wanted them to get very familiar with his voice so when they heard that kennel video, they knew with everybody else that that was alec at the scene with the victims shortly before the murder. >> martha, i was going to say, i remember having to sign the murder indictments about alec murdaugh. there was a lot of evidence that we looked at. we didn't look at one particular piece of evidence. that was crucial to my decision to indict him, sign the indictments. we met last summer with sled and made the determination. that was a critical piece of information for me. back to what creighton was talking about. i thought of alec when he got on the witness stand, he was none for he's ability to connect with jurors. this is his final closing argument to the jury. he believes just like the other jurors that he had appealed to in years

we are watching the defense attorney for alec murdaugh.ly, they talked about what they'll say on appeal. that netflix special i had asked about a week ago wondering defense did not calling for an injunction, leading to adjudicating a case. how do you do that? appeal. >> i note as well, think about how we have been sort of introduced to two narratives of sequence of events that's happening. and, there we have them articulating that but for the presentation of financial crimes, but for the "bad acts," their quotes of alec murdaugh, the jury would not have thought he's so in-credible. by the time you got to that point, you hated that guy and you don't believe anything he said and he was despicable. this was addressed in the closing argument. it was the defense that filed a notice of alibi. >> exactly. >> they had a hering on it. only after alec murdaugh was caught on video being placed at the kennel then he said "you are right," there is a level of cupablety that defense brought on themselves. they brought up technological aspect, if sleds wh

. >> alec murdaugh is innocent, innocent of these charges. he lied because that's what addicts do, addicts lie. he lied because he had a closet full of skeletons. evidence is crystal clear from that moment he started fabricating evidence against alec. >> john: the alec murdaugh trial, a fiery rebuttal to the closing arguments, before the jury decides whether the disgraced attorney is guilty of murdering his wife and son. i'm john roberts in washington. good to be with you. >> jacqui: murder could get life in prison without the possibility of parole if the jury convicts him of the murder charges. >> john: defense arguing prosecutors failed to prove their case that he committed the crimes beyond a reasonable doubt. jonathan is live in the southeast bureau with the latest. interesting arguments from jim griffin this morning and now the prosecution with a chance to try to rebutt some of those before the jury gets the charge. >> as we look at the live feed from the courtroom, you are seeing john meters, one of the prosecutors, delivering rebuttal

maggie, paul, and alec down at the kennel.that's it. >> and john stood up after the defense to offer the rebuttal, meadors was brought on my the south carolina attorney general's office. maybe he got angry at paul. maybe he got angry, he started all of this. and maybe he just lost it. maybe he just lost it. maybe it looked like a suicide, and then maggie came and he had to shoot her. >> maybe he just lost it. the jury set to begin deliberations any moment. as judge clifton newton finishes reading instructions. with me is laura jarrett and former federal prosecutor and msnbc legal analyst, paul butler as well. ellison, as i mentioned, the jury set to begin deliberations a little bit later on today after the instructions are concluded by the judge here, take us to the time line, if you will. >> yeah, i mean, the big question is how long will they need to deliberate here. i can tell you that court sources have told our team here that the judge plans to have the jury deliberate until 10:00 p.m. today and tomorrow, if necessary. we

. >> reporter: nicole smith holds 26-year-old son alec couldn't afford his medication when he aged out of her insurance plan. >> the first time he went to the pharmacy in june of 2017 to pick up his one-month supply, the pharmacy said it would be $1300. and went home without his life-sustaining medicaion and began to ration it. >> reporter: alec was taking eli lilly's most commonly prescribed insulin, humalog. it was $21 a vial when it first went on the market in 1996. today it's over $274, a more than 1200% increase. eli lilly's ceo david ricks. how do you ensure patients that were not going to see the same rises of insulin in the future? >> we haven't rolled out a guarantee, but what i'll say, over the last five years we've frozen prices and cut them. >> reporter: the price cuts are a victory, but too late for her son. >> yeah, i think if the price of insulin in 2017 had been $35, alec would still be alive today. >> reporter: eli lilly reported a net income of about $6 billion last year. this year, the ceo says the company plans to invest about $8 billion in research and development

he thought alec murdaugh is a monster.surprising when he said before the sentencing, there's overwhelming evidence of your guilt. did you take anything away from the judge's response yesterday and how that goes toward appeal? >> well, listen, i haven't had an opportunity to talk to any of the jurors that deliberated. i did overhear one of the media records that one of the jurors was saying that they heard that kennel video that put him at the time of the murders and two to two and a half minutes before they were murdered. this is something that they denied until he was confronted with the kennel video. he didn't tell his attorneys, no one in his family until he was confronted with it in court. the jurors believe that he was lying and he was going to continue to lie. they convicted him on a plethora of other types of evidence that we presented. >> i want your thoughts about why he put him on the stand. that was the big question that everybody had today. >> there was no choice. he had been made out to be a monster that stole

and he would just let alec talk. and i'm saying that's not how you do it. but it actually worked, and apparently that was his plan. he wanted him to talk himself off the cliff and in fact did he. >> allison, sometimes the toughest question you can ask somebody you're interviewing is, go on. and let them do it. >> journalists know that trick. let people talk and they'll tell you more than they actually intended to sometimes. >> yes. great point. i'm still surprised though that you don't watch the trials and vice-president for decades. i find it fascinating. >> that's great. >> there's always something to learn. >> they're so if id with suspense and you know the human struggle. like i can't believe you don't respond to any of that. they're like ready-made for tv. that's why i love having cameras in the courtroom because we get to watch democracy in action. >> i prefer having cameras in the courtroom than seeing the weird sketches that we all see where it doesn't look like tom brady when he's talking about the inflated football. so -- no. >> you have to admit

. >>> the jury about to get instructions and begin deliberations in the alec murdaugh double murder trial. how prosecutors just rebutted the defense's closing argument. >>> and the first one on one meeting between top american and russian diplomats since the invasion of ukraine. our news team is here with the latest developments to the high stakes diplomatic meeting, ten minutes along but an awful lot of ground was covered by the secretary of state. allie raffa calling the story from the white house. what did secretary blinken have to say to see his russian counter part, sergey lavrov? >> reporter: a lot of diplomacy in that ten-minute long meeting. the first face-to-face meeting between secretary of state antony blinken and his russian counter part since the war in ukraine began over a year ago now. blinken speaking at a press conference earlier today, sort of giving highlights from the meeting the two had. first of all, he said that he urged lavrov to reverse president putin's decision to bow out of the last nuclear arms treaty between russia and the u.s. that happened a little over a w

i asked him, i said, alec, do you have any idea who's done this?find out who's done this. who could do this. and he said, he did not know who it was, but he felt like whoever did it had thought about it for a really long time. >> did that strike you as odd? >> i just didn't know what that meant. we will talk about the boat case, and he was very intent on clearing paul's name. >> what did he say? >> he said that his number one goal was clearing paul's name. [crying] i thought that was so strange. my number one goal was to find out who killed my sister and paul. >> and alex was he grieving? >> terribly. >> -- would you describe described as being destroyed? would you agree with that assessment? >> yes. >> maggie murdaugh's sister, marianne proctor. it's interesting, she was saying that alec was saying his number one goal is to clear paul's name. again, there is video from the hospital the night of the boat accident, where a teenager has been killed. then the evidence suggests that paul was at the wheel of alex murdaugh with his father, going to the h

closing arguments concluded today in the high profile case of alec murdaugh.ondent jonathan serrie has the story. >> totally illogical irrational and insane. >> in closing arguments the defense had choice words for the prosecution's theory that alec murdaugh killed his wife maggie and son paul to create a distraction the day his law firm confronted him about funds he had stolen from clients. >> even if the financial day of reckoning was impending, if it was right there, alec would not have killed the people he loved the most in the world. >> but in a concluding rebuttal, the prosecution argued an innocent husband and father would not lie about the last time and place he saw his loved ones alive. >> he is withholding an obstructing justice by not saying i was down at the kennels. >> i knew she had gone to the kennel. i was at the house. >> murdaugh repeatedly told investigators he was not with his wife and son at the kennels on the family's hunting estate the evening of the murders. but, admitted he lied after multiple trial witnesses identified all three of th

again, alec murdock found guilty of murdering his wife and son. i want to go to eva pilgrim who's been covering this case from the very start and eva. they began delivering just hours ago. this was very fast. i'm very fast so less than three hours ago. they reached a verdict at 6:41. this has been 28 days of this trial and and i think the moment that a lot of people are going to be looking at david is that kennel video? it was minutes before the murders happened and that video destroyed his alibi. you can hear alec murdoch's voice on it. paul had recorded it on his phone. he was going to send that video to his friend to show his friend his hurt dog and find out what to do with that dog, and the state says that alec didn't know that video existed then we saw that dramatic moment where alex murdock himself took the stand and admitted it was indeed him in that video. he said that while he was there for that video. he wasn't there at the time of the murders, but that clearly putting questions into place about his timeline and if he was there when the

john martin did testify on behalf of his brother, alec.nd confused and he wants to know what his brother knows and what he didn't tell them. >> i agree with that. randy doesn't necessarily agree with the jury's verdict in this case. he's supportive of his brother to a certain extent. he does think that alec murdaughs knows more, perhaps know whose did it, has some more connection than he led us. we all know he's a liar. if you watched the trial, you know that alec murdaugh is a liar. he also had a relationship with maggie and paul. of course he wants to know what happened to them. i don't believe he buys that his brother pulled the trigger. >> and the family name got dragged through the mud in this. randy is also an attorney in town. he may be trying to separate himself from this crew a little bit. one of the interesting things and randy in the smith case, he showed up after stephen smith was found dead in the middle of the road a few miles from the murdaugh house. he went to school with buster murdaugh. they said it was a hit-and-run. his

. >>> and also, the double murder trial of disgraced attorney alec murdaugh, and we are learning that a juror has been removed of discussing the case with people outside of the court, and all of this as the defense has just begun the closing argument. >>> and today, a pennsylvania man is in court after he hid explosives inside of his luggage for a flight destined for orlando, and the latest on the case and the suspect's long criminal history. and we begin in michigan where a man is accuse of plotting multiple jewish officials in that state. we go to polo sandoval, and andrew mccabe, and polo, begin with what we know about the suspect and what led to his arrest. >> good morning. we have been digging with more beyond the zen pages laid out by the federal investigators and more on what we could potentially learn from a.g. nessel saying that she has taken to twitter saying that she has been notified by the fbi when she first learned about this shocking potential threat here, and confirming that she was the target of a heavily armed defendant in this matter. the a.g. goes on the write that

as we all expected, alec murdaugh will appeal this case. about the reasons that might underlie that appeal. watch this. >> cars would be pulling up and there's tire tracks that were not being protected. they could have evidence value. we talked about seeing hair in maggie's hands you'll recall. you didn't hear anything about the hair in maggie's hands. we know they failed to take fingerprints. why did they never take dna samples off of maggie's clothes? >> martha: good to have you here. appeal is expected. does he have grounds for it, do you think? >> there's grounds, but i don't think they're going to carry the day and get him a new trial. his best argument is not what just flowed from the defense argument's mouth but they let evidence of his lies and fraud to come into a murder trial. generally that cannot come in. the judge in considering the prosecutor's request balanced their need to prove motive versus the prejudicial effect. he looked like a liar and scumbag before he took the witness stand. that shouldn't happen in a murder case. th

alec murdaugh was sent to prison for the death of his wife and son. investigators never revealed what information they glean about his case being open. new private efforts launched to cover the circumstances, spearheaded by smith's mother, sandy, and two attorneys, the first goal, exhuming smith's body. >> we think we have good cause to show why a fresh set of eyes on this can be beneficial. it starts with a fresh new look at the body. >> reporter: initial reports that the student died in 2014 from a hit and run. but the accident investigation team reports cited, no vehicle debris, skid marks or injuries consistent with something being struck by a vehicle. >> i love my son. and since i couldn't protect him i'm going to fight for him. >> reporter: smith's mother said she worried her son may have been targeted because he was gay. according to police files during interviews with friends and family after smith's death, the murdaugh name kept coming up. no one connected the family to smith's death. r rumors and innuendo persisted, with a follow, bust er mu

. >> yeah, letting alec testify, was that a big mistake do you think?ink the defense did not have a choice. with the prosecution put on, almost ten or so witnesses, that testified that they could identify alec murdaugh's voice in that video. that was taken or reduced just moments before the cell phone of his son paul, went dead. that was a big problem for alec, he had told the police for months, he was not at that candle before his wife and son were killed. no, you have ten witnesses coming forward, by the prosecution saying, yes, that's his voice. he was there. just moments before the murders occurred. he had to, i believe, he felt he had to get on the witness stand and try to explain why he had lied to police. >> that video you're talking about from his son on his cell phone, proving that he was there, within five minutes of the murder and then lied about it, essentially, the son helped solve his own murder. >> so many ways, kim, he was painted -- penned into a corner. he had to explain how it is that his voice could be on a video, as you said, five m

meantime, we expect to hear from alec murdaugh's defense team this morning after he his sentencing.interesting to see what they have to say, guys. >> griff: it sure. will let's bring in susan williams, south carolina based criminal defense attorney and susan, i spoke to you right in front of that courthouse the day after this double murder. >> here we are now, your reaction to this verdict? >> i was completely shocked. after i heard that there was a verdict, i actually thought that it was a hoax. because i had no idea that the verdict would come in in less than two hours. which is about the same amount of time that alec murdaugh spent on the stand. >> ainsley: you know, we have all watched this case. i know you live in south carolina. south carolina was glued to the tv over this because many people know the family. south carolina is small, y'all, people don't leave south carolina generally. everyone kind of knows everyone. if i didn't know you griff, our moms might have gone to college together. it's just all woven together. and, susan, you know this for sure. what was it during the

closing arguments in the alec murdaugh double murder trial.s after the jury made a rare visit to the crime scene. >> a manufacturer of insulin introducing a drastic price cut. why the company is making the decision now and the impact it will have on millions of americans. >> overdue oversight. the ceo of norfolk southern agreeing to testify before the senate. >>> and march is national reading month, but studies show post-pandemic many kids have fallen behind. how to make those kids fall in love with the written word. >> we begin with breaking news. closing arguments underway in the alec murdaugh murder trial. the claim is that the disgraced former lawyer killed his wife and youngest son. after the prosecution, alec murdaugh's attorneys will deliver their closing arguments. >> earlier today, the jurors were taken out of the courtroom and visited the scene of the alleged crime themselves which they only heard about the past 27 days. sum up for us from we've heard from the prosecution so far in the closing arguments. >> it's a little hectic and y

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and i think i was asked the other day do we pray for alec and i think absolutely we do.now that paul was a murderer, not paul the case but paul biblically and he ended up becoming a disciple. i think absolutely pray for him as much as we can. >> ainsley: i agree with you. when you send someone to prison for life, even though they are guilty, what goes through your mind as a juror? >> you know, that decision has been on my mind for six weeks. you don't want to be wrong. you can't be wrong. you have to be so sure in your decision because this man is about to serve the rest of his life in prison and can you just imagine if he -- if he hadn't done it, you know. he has lost his wife, he has lost his child and then you send him to prison for his wife. sures, he may have done other crimes. that would just be awful. i couldn't live with that decision if i wasn't sure of myself. >> ainsley: so, in the end, without a shadow of a doubt, you believe he is guilty? >> i wouldn't have been able to make my decision on the verdict if i wasn't. >> steve: that was such a an eye opener and

the alec murdaugh was familiar with the dog. the dog knew him well. he puts the dog back in the kennel probably and then says to police he wasn't there. and i only lied because i was paranoid and i was -- didn't like sled. i didn't trust sled who is south carolina law enforcement division which i think he said that to try to appeal to one of the jurors who might not have liked law enforcement another thing two outfits in one day. dressed one way wearing long pants and a shirt stand buying a tree and later wearing shorts and something else. the question is where's that other outfit and the situation with everything he was able to pull off, how was he able to live his life. shows what a maligned murder is he. handling the kennel and killing two of the people closest to him. we don't know the circumstances but the wife and his son think about the son sitting there testifying on behalf of his dad. his dad goes to jail minimum 30 years. probably going to get life today. and then you lose your brother on top of that. i mean, think about this guy. >> ainsley

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. >> reporter: smoldering and shattered, the aftermath of alec's worst real tragedy and half a centuryssenger train with more than 350 people aboard collided head on. many of the victims, students returning from a holiday wee weekend. this security camera footage shows the moment of impact. "we heard a big bank," said the survivor. "we were turning over and over in the carriage. people screamed, windows shattered." survivors, shock and bloodied, were bused to medical care and relieved families. after sunrise, the disaster came into further heartbreaking focus. greece's prime minister called it a tragic human error and vowed this would never happen again. an angry reaction tonight, protests erupted in athens, and two other cities. greece has had the worst rail safety record in the european union for the past decade. choking up, the country's transport minister, who later resigned, promised a transparent investigation. police arrested and charged a stationmaster with manslaughter, which he denies. at a nearby hospital, this father searched for his son. "we want all those responsible to p

. >>> a major development in the deadly shooting on that movie set in the case against alec baldwin. >>> the sinking car, a 3-year-old boy still in his car seat. and you will see the remarkable police rescue tonight. >>> and we celebrate a singer and songwriter and the song you will surely remember. >>> good evening and it's great to have you with us here on a very busy wednesday night. and we begin tonight with the u.s. and russia both racing to find that $30 million american reaper drone now at the bottom of the black sea. the drone destroyed after being intercepted by russian fighter jets in international air space. raising tensions between the u.s. and russia even higher since the start of the war in ukraine. russia tonight says it is looking for that drone. and the u.s. says one of those russian jets hit the drone's propeller, knocking it down. russian pilots accused of harassing that drone for 30 minutes, making 19 close passes, dumping fuel on the drone before it was hit. tonight, defense secretary lloyd austin speaking with his russian counterpart for the first time since oct

. >> reporter: nicole smith-holt's 26-year-old son, alec, could not afford his medication when he aged>> the first time he went to the pharmacy in june of 2017 to pick up his one month supply, the pharmacist said it would be $1300, and went home without his life-sustainig medication, and began to ration it. >> reporter: alec was taking eli lilly's most commonly prescribed insulin, humalog. it was $21 a vial when it first went on the market in 1996. today, it is over $274, a more than 1200% increase. eli lilly ceo david ricks. how do you ensure patients that were not going to see the same rises in the price of insulin in the future? >> you know, we haven't rolled out a guarantee but what i will say is, over the last five years, we froze prices and cut them. >> reporter: smith-holt says the price cuts are a victory, but too late for her son. >> yeah, i think if the price of insulin in 2017 have been $35, alec would still be alive today. >> reporter: eli lilly reported a net income of about $6 billion last year. this year, the ceo says the company plans to invest about $8 blion iresear ne

. >>> alec murdaugh's defense team delivering closing arguments at his double murder trial. that is what we are watching at this hour. >>> thank you for being here. i'm amara walker in for kate bolduan. we begin with a disturbing story out of michigan where a man is using social media to threaten to kill jewish members of the state government. the state's attorney general dana nessel confirmed that she is one of the officials targeted. she tweeted this, quote, the fbi has confirmed that i was a target of the heavily armed defendant in this matter. it is my sincere hope that the federal authorities take this offense just as seriously as my hate crimes and terrorism unit takes plots to murder elected officials. of course, we are covering this story from every angle, and we will start with polo sandoval in new york. what are you learn about the suspect and these threats? >> well, amara, much of what we have learned is from the seven pages unsealed by the federal prosecutors since the attorney general nessel is unveiling what has led up to this incident. jack eugene carpenter ii

do you think this is good for alec baldwin?stitution prohibits her from wearing two hats, one as legislator and one as judicial officer. it was a correct decision for her to step down. it doesn't change the evidence. it doesn't weaken the evidence. district attorney of new mexico can appoint another attorney or prosecutor to take the place and the evidence is still in tact. it is victory, but doesn't resolve the case. >> dana: i like how you can pack the information into the time we have. we appreciate that. thank you, have a great day. >> thank you, say hito percy. >> bill: that is good, this is good, too. ♪ >> bill: you have that on spotify, don't you? >> dana: i like her. >> bill: me, too. show you something that never goes out of style. hemmer's celebrity news, half are fans of t-swifty, 53% say the split is even among women and men. her tour kicks off saturday in glendale, arizona. >> dana: greg gutfeld is a huge fan of hers. >> bill: i did not. >> dana: just kidding. >> bill: gutfeld would have said that is hemmer's celeb

smith was a classmate of buster murdoch, son of murderer alec murdoch.eopening the investigation based on information they learned while investigating the murders of alec murdoch's wife and youngest son. now a new legal team is seeking to launch a fresh investigation into his death. his family has raised more than $70,000 and they plan to ask a judge to allow them to have his body exhumed for private autopsy. 360s randi kaye has been reporting on the saga. here's a report. >> heartbreaking. he was a human and he deserves justice. >> reporter: sandy smith one step closer to justice for her son. >> it's going to be hard to open an investigation after eight years but it has to start with an investigation of his body. >> it's important to me because i just love my son and since i couldn't protect him, i'm going to fight for him. >> reporter: stephen smith, a 19-year-old with dreams of becoming a doctor, was found dead about 4 a.m. july 8th, 2015, on sandy run road in hampton county. >> in the road, a boy. he's been dumped. >> reporter: at the time it a peerp

friday the prosecution went after alec. they were much sharper. you saw a different alex murdaugh, select memory, and he was not likable on that friday, and i think that was a huge difference because all it takes is one juror to have reasonable doubt and it's a hung jury. in the end it was unanimous and a quick verdict. >> let's go ahead and listen, one of the jurors spoke to abc news, let's listen to some of that. >> so it took basically 45 minutes for you guys to come to a decision. >> probably about 45, maybe an hour. >> that's really fast. >> the evidence was clear. >> what made you so sure that he had? >> his responses, how quick he was with the defense and his lies, steady lies. >> did you feel like he was a liar? >> a good liar, not good enough. >> i mean, there's so much that we can analyze here with this juror's interview with abc news. the fact nine jurors believed guilt right away. they took a poll when they went into the deliberation room. that's what we all want to know. two of them thought maybe innocent. one was unsure. it took abou

and they wholesale rejected any defense that was offered by alec murdaugh.t's just not worthy of our time, clearly, because within hours they said you're guilty. >> murdaugh, and his defense team, the high leverage decision that put him on the set day and doesn't happen that often in these kinds of cases, but it did not appear to work. katie phang, ellison barbara, thank many thanks. still to come after another right-wing threat to democratic congresswoman who thought he might have to fight his way out of january six joins me. january six joins me. ♪ you like to... move it ♪ we're reinventing our network. ♪ ♪ ♪ fast. reliable. perfectly orchestrated. the united states postal service. ♪♪ inner voice (kombucha brewer): if i just stare at these payroll forms... my business' payroll taxes will calculate themselves. right? uhh...nope. intuit quickbooks helps you manage your payroll taxes, cheers! with 100% accurate tax calculations guaranteed. nexium 24hr prevents heartburn acid for twice as long as pepcid. get all-day and all-night heartburn acid prevention with

and they wholesale rejected any defense that was offered by alec murdaugh. they said it's just not worthy of our time, clearly, because within hours they said you're guilty. >> murdaugh, and his defense team, the high leverage decision that put him on the set day and doesn't happen that often in these kinds of cases, but it did not appear to work. katie phang, ellison barbara, thank many thanks. still to come after another right-wing threat to democratic congresswoman who thought he might have to fight his way out of january six joins me. >> murdaugh, and his defense team, the high leverage decision that put him on the set day and doesn't happen that often in these kinds of cases, but it did not appear to work. katie phang, ellison barbara, thank many thanks. still to come after another right-wing threat to democratic congresswoman who thought he might have to fight his way out of january six joins me. before dexcom g6, my diabetes was out of control. i was tired. not having the energy to do the things that i wanted to do. before dexcom g6, i was frustrated.

the defense with its final chance to keep alec murdaugh out of prison on murder charges. his lawyer picking apart the prosecution's theory about why he would have killed his wife and son and accusing state police of faking the evidence, the very latest from south carolina as we get close to jury deliberations. >>> plus, president biden heading back to his old stomping grounds on capitol hill this hour, his mission and his message focused squarely on keeping democrats in charge in 2024. and as if delays and cancellations aren't enough to worry about, multiple cases of weapons trying to be smuggled to planes, a near collision, dangerous turbulence, the latest worries for an already exhausted flying public, more on the search for answers and for someone to fix this mess coming up. >>> but, we begin at the alec murdaugh double murder trial. the defense had e wrapped up its closing arguments on an emotional note. right now the prosecution is doing its rebuttal, and then the judge will give final instructions to the jury before they begin their deliberations. nbc's ellison barb