how can you not hate daniel 0rtega after this?nobody can build anything productive out of hatred. i strongly disagree with him in many, many areas and i think he's a war criminal, i think he's a dictator. but i think that personal, direct hatred doesn't allow you to think in a very strategic way as a leader. and when you are trying to represent a broad coalition, when you're trying to represent a country, you cannot let your own personal resentments to get in the way of what is strategic. and in this case, the strategy means human rights. the strategy means human dignity. a strategy means mobilising the international community for the reconstruction of a country that is completely kidnapped by the 0rtega family. right. well, we focused on your extraordinary personal story. let's get a little bit strategic in this interview. is there not a case for saying that 0rtega, by doing this mass release of 222 prisoners, including yourself, he is hoping to get something back from the united states, who had been pressuring him to dojust this

nicaragua's veteran autocratic leader daniel 0rtega has been locking up political dissidents for yearscriticize him and his family. my guest today is felix maradiaga, who was recently taken from his nicaraguan prison cell and flown to america.