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doesn't matter it's all about the performance >> and michael, it's not just in the house of representatives i mean, a strong ally of trump senator lindsey grahamorters last night on fox take a listen to that. >> you need to help this man, donald j. trump. they're trying to drain him dry. he's spent more money on lawyers than most people spend on campaigns. they're trying to bleed him dry. do donaldjtrump.com, go tonight, give the president some money to fight this [ bleep ]. >> also, trump is already trying to fund-raise off of this news sending out an email blast selling an i stand with trump shirt. michael is this going to be something that can generate a lot of support, both political and economic support for the former president >> look, absolutely on the economics. there's no doubt about that. this is all about the grift, baby someone's going to get paid in all of this and the fact that you have a united states senator shilling for donald trump on national television, absolutely. someone's going to get paid, and it's going to be donald trump. the other price that will be paid in this is how the american people are affect ed by this drama

graham hasn't gotten it. you know, my republican colleagues haven't gotten it. we simply don't know what it is what it reads. keep in mind. michaelcohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating an indictment of former president we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great advice. but could it be more than the stormy daniels hush money payments? in other words, what do you expect to be in there? well, i think what's going to be interesting and i don't know, because you know, it's not a case i have investigated but what is the link to the business? what did the president know? what did he know about covering up the payment because, by the way, number a number of members of congress have been indicted for campaign finance issues like it's not like this is nothing. so you know.

graham, subpoenaed by doj? >> with respect to the dark investigation, glad you mentioned the federal sentencing document of michael cohen three years ago. u.s. justice department concluded that individual number one, which we know to be donald trump, directed the hush money payments to stormy daniels. through michael cohen. that is an official filing and it is not the merrick garland justice department or the barack obama's justice bartley. that is donald trump's own justice department made an extraordinary filing. there isn't at least, to our knowledge, a similar federal document. that is true in almost every state prosecution. if he did not have it, he would still have a very strong case. so, it is sufficient for prosecution but by no means necessary. i don't think the fact that they don't have that document is going to ultimately stop her in the end from indicting but i do think you raise an important question, which is, why has this not been, at least to our knowledge, invested by the u.s. justice department? we know exactly what was not investigated back in december and january of 2020 and 2021, which is that

graham hasn't gotten it. you know, my republican colleagues haven't gotten it. we simply don't know what it is what it reads. keep in mind. michael cohen spent some time in jail for this exact thing. so you know my thoughts tonight are it's a somber moment. i think we should. there should be nobody in this country that is celebrating and indictment of former president. we've been a country that hasn't had that yet . it's embarrassing that we do have a president has that. but let's wait and see what the indictment actually looks like before we start jumping to conclusions about this being political. i mean, obviously, that's great advice. but could it be more than the stormy daniels hush money payments mean? in other words, what do you expect to be in there? well, i think what's going to be interesting and i don't know, because you know, it's not a case i have investigated but what is the link to the business? what did the president know? what did he know about covering up the payment because, by the way, number a number of members of congress have been indicted for campaign finance issues like it's not like this is nothing. so yo