. >> joining us now is nathaniel rayman. director of yale university's humanitarian research lab. you have worked on this project for a long time. your report was responsible for shining a light on so much of what has been going on in ukraine. what does this moment mean for you? >> john, on one hand, i am still in shock by the announcement of the indictments by the icc. it is a critical first step, only a first step towards justice for the people of ukraine. on the other hand, i am thinking about the parents, tonight, of the children who have yet to come home, and some may not come home. on one hand, i feel hope because of today's indictment. on the other hand, i feel the urgency of trying to get these kids back. >> you mentioned you are sort of in shock. did you have any idea this was coming? >> all i knew was what i read in the new york times a few days ago. and, at that point, we thought it could happen. this morning, i was walking my dogs, and my phone went dessert. and, suddenly, it had happened. since that point, it ha