former education secretary under the trump administration betsy devos.y the way we have reached out to randi weingarten and she hasn't gotten back to us yes. we have information from cdc and we will play that later in this interview. madam secretary let's start specifically with what she said that you say is a lie. i'm going to play that and get your response. rotate. >> the cdc conferred with more than 50 organizations about the guidance. but before the cdc and frankly neither the president at that time nor betsy devos would confer with us. david: is that true. >> that is absolutely false david randi weingarten and all of our allies never reached out asking us to meet with them. in fact they were very adverse to us. interesting in her testimony that randy claimed she 65 and can't remember a lot of things. i'm also 65 and i remember clearly all the work that we did to help schools reopen in all the work she and her allies did to keep schools closed. >> you said she was adverse to meeting with members of the trump administration, you and particular did yo

. >> sandra: former education secretary betsy devos. madam secretary, thank you very much for your time. we continue to monitor this hearing happening on capitol hill because it is an important one. people want to know if anybody is going to be held accountable, randi weingarten or otherwise for what these kids and schools were put through during this pandemic. where do you lie on what we are learning here and learning from anthony fauci? >> sandra, we know randi weingarten and her allies are going to try to revise and rewrite history and deliberately deceive the american people over what actually happened through covid but we know for a fact they have worked in collusion with those at the cdc to rewrite, to edit guidance, to make things more restrictive and more difficult for kids to get back into school. there is all kinds of evidence to that fact and all kinds of evidence on how many millions of kids have fallen dreadfully behind because of adult decisions, because of adults who were trying to leverage the pandemic to extort money an

betsy devos joins me now. believe, a former swimmer. that i didn't know until i read that just moments ago. madam secretary, do you believe that biological men should compete in women's sports? >> no, absolutely not, stu. this is an issue that women have been able to progress on for over 50 years now, and this administration is proposing in 30 days of public comment to essentially undo that 50 years of progress. and i know as a former swimmer myself i never would have gone to get into that cold pool on those early mornings if i knew i was going to have to face biological males in addition to really fast females. stuart: it's basically a question of fairness, isn't it? >> it is, indeed. stuart: it's not discrimination, it's fairness. >> absolutely. you know, there are reasons for male teams and female teams. there are physical differences that cannot be denied or overcome. and this is an issue that cuts across every line. everybody who has played a sport, competed in a sport, worked hard knows just how difficult

one of which was betsy devos. we are talking about an individual who does not believe in public education. she has spent millions of dollars privatizing school districts across the country. this is also an administration that worked to incite an insurrection. this is well documented and it is playing out in the city of chicago. betsy devos has inserted herself and her resources into my opponents coffers. the head of the fop said if i am elected, brandon johnson, there will be blood in the streets. this trump in style politics that has inserted itself into this campaign is disturbing and these ideas are surrounding my opponent. we have to make sure in chicago that we reject this and give chicago the hope in providence the city deserves, a mayor who wants to invest in people. >> the donald trump indictment is evidence that no one is above the law, even the president of the united states and i cannot say it would not be -- it was not expected. and there will be more indictments down the road. at the end of the day, j

what he says, per betsy devos and her pac to come in and support paul vallas tells you everything you to know about him. america randi weingarten is head of aft. arne duncan under obama and senator dick durbin supported vallas. yes senator warren and bernie sanders coming out for bernard johnson. juan: brandon johnson. absolutely. this is a battle within the democratic party between progressives and the more conservative and centrist forces in the party. we will see now who is being able to reach the masses of the voter and turn them out and today's election. amy: we want to thank you, juan, for that briefing. we will ask you about what happens tomorrow. coming up, finland joins nato. stay with us. ♪♪ [music break] amy: "shelter" by vic mensa, chance the rapper, and wyclef jean. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman with juan gonzalez. finland has probably joined nato today in a move that doubles nato's border. russia and finland share in 800 mile border. they joined a week after turkey's parliament voted to ratify its membership. turkey a

this morning, the former education secretary betsy devos joined the long list of revisionist history. clear from all the actions during the pandemic that they were holding kids hostage to political demands, taking advantage of a pandemic, of a crisis to meet the demands that they had. >> joining us to respond, the american head of the federation, thank you for being with us. we appreciate it. as you saw there, former secretary devos said your group resisted working with the trump administration to reopen schools. what is your response to what the former secretary had to say? >> you know, the former secretary went to a school with me once in april of 2017 and never answered or engaged with us again since that time. so you know, we tried to actually get them to engage with us and help work with us. they wouldn't do it. and there is a new covid study out by researcher from around the country that said it would have been good if the united states did what europe did, which is emphasize and prioritize schools over bars and restaurants and give us the mitigating circumstances. so the people

one of which, list betsy devos. we are talking about an individual who does not believe in public education. she spent millions of dollars privatizing school district the country. this is an administration that worked to incite an insurrection. this is well documented. it is playing out in the city of chicago, betsy devos has inserted herself and resources into my opponents coffers. the head of the fop said if i'm elected, brandon johnson, there will be blood in the street. he said muslims are savages and deserve a bullet. and another supporter said do not accept the election results. this trump ian style politics that has inserted itself into the campaign is disturbing. these ideas are surrounding my opponent. we have to make sure the city of chicago, that we reject this divisive form of governance and accept the hope and promise chicago deserves. which is american who is prepared to invest in people. sasha: let -- mr. bill. paul: it is evidence that no one is above the law. even the president of the united states.

as you just heard from betsy devos, by this point, they're talking about private schools, catholic schools had gone back to school. so this move that they made on behalf of the public school kids put us into an education crisis according to all of the numbers that we see. also a lot of children in to deep emotional stress as well. we expect to hear questions that we've been asking weingarten throughout the most heated times of the covid lockdown about why union leaders were dictating science and health advice at the white house. >> you can see why that would lead people to think that you all have a lot of muscle over at the white house when it comes to reopening our schools. >> we put this plan together april -- >> i went back through your plan today. >> if we had listened to dr. redfield and the cdc last may, we have gotten more schools back in session. >> really? you told me there wasn't money. are you going to have ever back in september 100% in class five days a week? >> i hope so. >> martha: that department happen. congressional correspondent aishah hasnie live on capitol hill. she's

. >> sandra: a remarkable moment there when betsy devos earlier took issue with testimony by teacher'spened today at that hearing on school closures. it's still ongoing. aishah hasnie is on the hill with the very latest. hi, aishah. >> hi, sandra. yeah, i just popped out for a moment. the past 2 1/2 hours, randy weingarten is begging, pleading with lawmakers that her union did not try to politicize or influence the cdc at all. they only did what they were asked to do. and that their number 1 priority was reopening schools. a lot of house republicans are not buying that argument. they brought her in today to find out why in the world the american teacher's federation was involved with the cdc's school reopening guidance in early 2021. weingarten says the cdc approached them first. they hit it over a number of islands. some were accepted. there was one clear edit she says that was adopted. listen. >> do you remember how many edits that you suggested? >> we suggested concepts, sir. >> do you know how many edits were >> one. one. >> it's unusual for political union to have such a role in s

we can't reform the agencies top down, put betsy devos on top of the department of education. no.re going to shut it down, the department of education, countless administrative agencies. that breathes the lifeblood into a constitutional republic. three b branches of government, not four. that will unlock the economy. we talk about spending cuts to tax increases. there's a better way, gdp growth, we don't talk about that anymore. maria: what's the growth plan? get us back to growth. >> we can grow our way out of our problems. unshackle the u.s. energy sector from the climate cult. put people back to work. we have a culture of laziness spreading across the country and reform the federal reserve. until the late '70s we were at 4 plus percent gdp growth in the country. queswe can get back. maria: president trump had a 4% economy. the former president weighed in on the republican pry mayor rim he's talking about the primary dedates. debates. he suggests he might not attend. he wrote this, when you're leading by unsur mountable numbers and you have the maga hating networks asking the qu

women's sports ins schools, do you think had they'll latch onthe sexual assault issue in the way that betsy devosrcing justice. >> i want to go to your earlier point first. the reason mccarthy's numbers are increasing and growing is because the republican controlled house gop is doing something. yesterday when they passed the women's and girls protection sports act that was a great sign. you have the first immigration bill coming out of judiciary. things are moving and this discussion in particular about supporting and protecting scholarship opportunities for women and girls busts open this whole conversation around title 9 as you indicate and so not only do you have the legislative front, you have the regulatory he front where the biden administration tried to expand the title 9 protectionses. now they're running a new reg through the department of education you about how the money flows and if schools don't offer additional protections for trans activists then they would cut the funding out so my sense is is we're only just getting to the beginning of the discussion of what is the proper role o

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but before the cdc and frankly and currently president at that time nor betsy devos wouldld confer with us. we tried to do whatever we could. april 2020 common sense science back to plan who worked with jon king the former education secretary to focus and combat thlearning loss. 2020 was was chaotic and terrifying. the previousc administration. failure to protect americans had unbearable costs to not just the 1.1 laden americans arere guided covid great black children diedu almost three times the rate of white children. 245,000 children are in america and members of mine died as well. gabriel was a fourth-grade teacher who was pregnant with her second child when she died. we lost holly and hoover, a nurse. w anthony harold a school custodian and so many more. this is what the aft did but with the strategic national stockpile unstopped we bought $3 million of pvp or nurses in for our teachers and schools. parents of 5 million on back-to-school campaign back-to-school for everything from developing reopening plans back-to-school fairs, two-door visits with parents, billboards, radio, et c

before the cdc, and frankly neither the president at that time nor betsy devos would confer with us. but we tried to do whatever we couy dy. we released this report in april 2020. a common sense science backed plan to open schools safely. that same month we were to with john king. the former education secretary to focus and combat learning loss. 2020 was chaotic and terrifying. the previous administration at downplayed the pandemic. failure to protect americans had unbearable costs. it's not just the 1.1 million americans that died of covid. black children died at almost three times the rate of white children. 245,000 children were all -- orphaned in america. and members of my union died as well. gabriel gal was a fourth grade teacher who was pregnant with her second child when she died. and we lost halle and hoover. a nurse. anthony hero, a school custodian and so many more. this is what the aft did. when the strategic national stockpile on stalked -- we bought $3 million of ppp for our nurses and for our teachers and schools. we ran vaccination clinics. we convened virtual town hal

due in part to the walgreens launch was able to raise over $400 million from new investors family betsy devos, the owner of the new england patriots, and rupert murdoch, who put up $125 million. to investors in patients. it seemed like the system was working as advertised. the plan was launched in arizona as if it's a nationwide campaign. and then take key markets and roll it out across the country. i wasn't an engineer wasn't a scientist. i wasn't in r and d. i was there to create consumer brand. we came up with three adjectives to describe your theranos simple human and optimistic. because there are so many barriers to getting your blood drawn. whether it's fear of needles fear of finding out the results. living far away. can't afford it. there's just a lot of barriers. you know people that have this fear or this gangster don't like it. let's convert him so hired errol morris. carol worked with apple did a lot of great work with album. and elizabeth was taken by that this could be potentially the apple of healthcare. i'm a fan. likewise. we did casting real people that have all these issues

and regaining what was lost, but today you will see randy weingarten dodge responsibility, attack betsy devos take responsibility for anything. effective one wish today, it would be that she quit -- if i could have one wish today, it would be that she would take responsibility and resign, but we will not see that. host: ellsworth, georgia, democrats mine. -- line. caller: this guy has got an agenda for charter schools. he is not being truthful. i do not see how one person can be responsible for shutting down a public school system. he is not presented any kind of evidence to back up what he is saying. his mother was obvious -- motive is obvious. my grandkids go to public schools. they do well in public schools. he is so transparent. i wish this and would screen people and not bring this propaganda my grandkids go to public schools. they do well in public schools. it is so transparent that it defaults on what he is saying. i wish that they would stop the propaganda so we can consume -- host: give us your final thoughts on this. guest: my wife is a public school teacher. i want us to educate ou

before the cdc, and frankly neither the president at that time nor betsy devos would confer with us. but we tried to do whatever we couy dy. we released this report in april 2020. a common sense science backed plan to open schools safely. that same month we were to with john king. the former education secretary to focus and combat learning loss. 2020 was chaotic and terrifying. the previous administration at downplayed the pandemic. failure to protect americans had unbearable costs. it's not just the 1.1 million americans that died of covid. black children died at almost three times the rate of white children. 245,000 children were all -- orphaned in america. and members of my union died as well. gabriel gal was a fourth grade teacher who was pregnant with her second child when she died. and we lost halle and hoover. a nurse. anthony hero, a school custodian and so many more. this is what the aft did. when the strategic national stockpile on stalked -- we bought $3 million of ppp for our nurses and for our teachers and schools. we ran vaccination clinics. we convened virtual town hal