joining us is brooke sutherland. we are in the midst of what is supposed to be multiple efforts of a turnaround story. what is going wrong here? brooke: that is where the frustration is, this is far from the first run of job cuts we heard from 3m under the ceo. the series of restructuring initiatives they've announced, they talked about reorganizing the business model, streamlining the management structure. we are not seeing the payoff in the margins. it seems like there is always some excuse for why that is not happening, and they are not a legitimate reasons, whether that be covid, the trade war, stronger u.s. dollar, whatever is happening in china. you do not see the payoff of all these initiatives at 3m, that is why you see investors treating the latest push with a little bit of skepticism. jon: he sort of painted a picture about this in a piece you wrote earlier this year, to your point about co struggles, we were talking about during a believe his tenure, the worst performance in the dow jones industrial average