. >> reporter: how did you plead, created a his former friend david becker to pay hush money to three trump was concerned about the effect it could have on its candidacy. and him and cohen had a series of discussions about who pay off mcdougall to secure her silence. ultimately the inquirer these are felony crimes in new york state. no matter who you are. we cannot and serious criminal conduct >> reporter: but tonight back in florida trump is defiant. >> i never thought anything

full title is the big truth upholding democracy in the age of the big lie, and major garrett and david becker are the coauthors of this book. [applause] >> mr. garrett is a washington correspondent for cbs news, host and creator of takeout -- the takeout and debrief podcasts. he has also written a book which i have not yet read but title intrigues me. mr. trump's wild ride. and the other book is the 15 biggest lies in politics. david beck who is sitting next to me, i said you've got the best jacket, executive director and founder of the nonpartisan center, national expert on elections has worked in elections for more than 25 years and litigated major cases as a trial attorney in the department of justice under the obama and bush, gw bush administrations. our second author, this is the book that kind of appeals to some of us, maybe one or two, is called the aftermath. the last days of the baby boom and the future of power in america. mr. bump is -- [applause] i picked it up with some trepdation because i'm in that age group. but it's the last days of the boomers in some ways. so if you're want

. >> reporter: how did you plead, created a his former friend david becker to pay hush money to threeoncerned about the effect it could have on its candidacy. and him and cohen had a series of discussions about who pay off mcdougall to secure her silence. ultimately the inquirer these are felony crimes in new york state. no matter who you are. we cannot and serious criminal conduct >> reporter: but tonight back in florida trump is defiant. >> i never thought anything this could happen in america. never thought it could have been. the only crime that i committed is to fearlessly defend our nation from seek to destroy illinois, tennis ball sized hail and could see tornadoes and wind excess of 73 miles per hour, here's the rest of the forecast, this is not the only area in that level 4 out of 5 late-night into the overnight, just west little rock, springfield, missouri, also seeing it. that's the dry line on the front, lots of forcing mechanisms as it passes. overnight mighte b into the morning hours in indiana, ohio, down to memphis. a look the threat all the way to you louisiana >> dav

and david becker the executive director and founder of the center for election innovation and research. thank you for your servitude leibovich from the atlantic atlantic. and the big lie jonathan lemire white house bureau chief, politico and msnbc see, since this is an author's panel and book festival, i'm going to start with the literary question and. then we'll get into the topic hand. most of us, with the exception of david up here are so i have to ask all of you when did you realize this to be a book was when a reality tv host descended a gold escalade later, or was it january sixth or somewhere in between? well, for david and i for the book the big truth the imperative to write the book came with everything happened on election night 2020 leading up to january 28 january six, 2021, and then thereafter because what started on that election the morning really about 230 when the president said the election been stolen from him and repeated that over and over via twitter and other means and lots people who already knew better said and republicans who knew better either said nothing or

they're going to bring in that evidence while he was president that thank you to david becker and so on. yeah and to that point i mean, big part of this case is going to be on the campaign finance front and some of some conservatives who look at this say you can't possibly call this a campaign finance violation. they they're they're pointing at the john edwards explanation that if it was intended to, you know, reveal that to keep this information from melania trump trump's wife , then that's just a person. personal rationale. do you think that the prosecutors pierced that in any way in the indictment? this is a question of fact. this will be a matter for the jury, but the prosecutors have very strong evidence on this point for a couple of reasons. one is the timing when this all happened right in the weeks leading up to the election that's very different from the john edwards case. you also have evidence from david pecker in his resolution of the federal probe that they basically said explicitly, this is about the election hushing up. these claims by karen macdougal mcdougall and sto

between michael cohen, donal trump, stormy daniels, her agent, the national enquirer publisher david beckerational enquirer editor dylan howard these are the types of evidenc that he could even be detailed in this indictment that led to these charges. we should know a lot more here just about 72 hours from now alex >> absolutely extraordinar interview there for stormy daniels there in the times u radio. thank you so much for all of that chauvin and that's cohen right now karen friedman, former man chief assistant district attorney, welcome, it's good t see you back on the broadcast. quick question, given th stormy daniels soundbite w just heard, did you ever hav interaction with her >> i did not, i never matter i'd never spoken to her. >> what do you think about wha she said the fact that she thought sh was going to be called two weeks ago on a time, it did no happen, do you suspect that sh would be called in this case t testify if this thing goes t trial? >> it's important to remembe that we have not seen th indictment yet, so we don' exactly know what the charge are, or what evidence they