free julian assange. julian assange will be freed this year.pplause] >> book tv returns to the los angeles times festival of books. live from the university of southern california, featuring more than 35 others over two days, on saturday, coverage includes discussions on slavery, with carrie greenidge and ilion wu. and beverley gauge and -- hand los angeles times executive, kevin meredith. on sunday, our coverage continues with others, mark fomin and jennifer carlson on gun violence. talk show host, dentist break, or will take your calls live on the air. watch the los angeles times festival of books, live this weekend at 1:30 pm eastern on book tv. on c-span two. to see the full schedule, visit our website. book tv dot org. all this, month watch the top 21 winning videos from the student cam documentary competition. every morning at 6:50 eastern, before washington journal, we will air one of our winning documentaries. where students are asked to ha what their top priorities would be if they werly elected members congress. watch the top 21-winni

julian assange. if he really wants to protect freedom of press and the first amendment. in the meantime, while julian assange is still in prison, all major newspapers of the world have stayed the same to drop the charges. all major human rights organizations demanded the same, to drop the charges. and even the united nations called julian assange prolonged detention torture. i am honored to be cochairing for the tribunal with a great source of inspiration and i'm happy to welcome all the members of our tribunal and everybody was watching us today like this, i officially proclaim the tribunal launched. thanks a lot. [applause] >> we will move right into the tribunal members and then there were director of the aclu speech privacy and technology project has been at the aclu for 20 years, has worked at the intersection of civil liberties and national security, litigating numerous cases involving airport security policy, government watch list surveillance practices, targeted killing and torture. he has te

julian assange.it's the first time that a publisher is being charged under this very weird law. as you know better than me from 1917 which is a wartime document and you still have a law which is more than 100 years old from the first world war. i have to say that as an outsider that it is a country that is side and the united states is very sad that someone like me has to come from croatia to talk about the first amendment. as you know, he's been targeted by the most powerful thing in the world. american institutions. by the cia, nsa, and pentagon who plotted to kill him or kidnap him from british soil. after 12 years of persecution, almost four years in prison of what the united nations characterized as arbitrary detention, he now faces 175 years and a super max prison in the united states. for what? for publishing the truth. for publishing facts about war crimes. for publishing the truth and secrets about the cia surveillance. we are here today, among other reasons, to remind president biden of wha

julian assange has made a crucial contribion to journalism. he made possible the revelations of war crimes. amy: then "the underto scenes from a slow civil war." we will eak with dartmouth profesr jeff sharlet about his new book about rising fascism in the united states. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. israeli police raided the al-aqsa mosque compound in occupied east jerusalem for a second straight night, attacking and forcibly removing palestinians who were praying during the holy month of ramadan. police deployed stun grenades and fired rubber-coated steel bullets at worshippers. earlier today, israeli police escorted dozens of israeli settlers into the al aqsa courtyards. meanwhile, witnesses say palestinian men under the age of 40 are being barred from entering the mosque. rockets were fired from the occupied gaza strip in response to the latest attack. on wednesday, israeli jets struck gaza following another rocket fire in protest of the raid. demonstra

that is the ongoing prosecution of julian assange. many of us maintained that if a sanchez prosecuted, every national security journalist in america will be open for prosecution. i think it's even broader than that. to the extent that a sons is being prosecuted, it makes our own journalists who were doing it, practicing journalism and branding stories in countries that have really authoritarian secrecy rules. subject to those secrecy rules. i mean, can you see, i mean turkey imprisoning one of our journalists because we violated one of their secrecy rules for iran. i'm poor iraq. i mean it's, it's frightening it, and it's just such a, a dangerous precedent that actually ends up apparently any kind of person in including foreign correspondent for violating other countries. secrecy boss. so and, and i think it also creates a very chilling preston because people are already very skittish about reporting on classified information. the national security beat is a treacherous one, and i think people will be even more lockton a both the jour

now for well over a decade of julian assange, many of us maintained that if his sanchez prosecuted execution, i think it's even broader than that. to the extent the journalists who were doing it practicing to terry and secrecy rules, subject secrecy. one of our journalists because we violated one of their secrecy rules. it's frightening it at it's a dangerous precedent that actually including foreign correspondents for violating other countries. decrease a very chilling precedent because people are already information on the national security beat. is the journal aside in the source side, to, to talk about in their boots and hearing on the side of not reporting something that it's illegal conduct. just one of the things that disturb most of the major news outlets here in the united states, there was a, an open police and the lamond, and a couple of other papers. but at post and the wall street journal and cnn wise on his defense when, if julian is targeted, you know, i think the statement that came out you late and i did it is disappointing me the media in even the alternative media. but i t

so the fact that very belatedly, no stray leona commissioner in britain wants to visit julian assange because you know, quite apart from the man himself and what he's going through, which we can get on to. but it makes very little difference. and i know the seller assange, his wife julian is on his wife, hasn't been able to see the australian premier and all it shows this might be a rush to delay, but lesser, in congress, to mary gall and be attorney general in the united states. despite very timid british and he's making some attempts at raising the bar in terms of just conversation about freedom of speech. this is clear, it is the cia doing the running. it is the military, industrial complex of the united states that controls justice and freedom of information and the freedom of the press in so called democratic nations in western europe and in the united states. i think it's worth pointing as well option that julian assange was not the one who leaked the documents that was at chelsea manning pardon by president obama, back in 2017. yet. as you say, after 4 years of imprisonment, je

the books that show us a very different side to what is going on in this alleged vassal state julian assange has been on this program. he's currently going to view in special rapport, who's now left a voice mail so we will see those interviews. res talked about british alleged torture of julian, a sorry, general australian citizen. and perhaps the most famous journalist in the world. what is albany is a doing to get him freed? he says he's personally advocating for him, but no signs of london freeing him from this maximum security prison in bel much no, no, no sign of pressures improvement in julian's condition whatsoever. and we're now compounding this by allowing and australian citizen and foam or american citizen, age and pilots. in the american, a flush with 20 is to the well, that is quite life in countries whilst wife and children, 6 children tucked into a maximum security prison in a 2 by 4 made a still waiting extradition to america. this is another another case of mental daniel dugan who's, who isn't me as well known. of course as to, you know, such a freshman, he left his american

the prosecution of julian assange by the full weight of the u. s. government has given rise to the discussion of extradition more broadly, especially since for decades the u. k. has had a bilateral extradition treaty, a deadly car accident caused by c. i a operative, and the coolest, and the rest of the world. joining us to discuss is a man who has covered many of these extradition cases, most recently, reporting directly on the assange extradition trial. is pulitzer prize winning writer, former mideast bureau chief before the new york times, his latest book called the greatest evil is war. now host of the chris hedges report on the real news network. mr. chris hedges. chris, thank you so much for being with us. first, chris, let's start with perhaps the highest profile extradition case in the world right now. that would be of julian assange. it would appear that his attorneys in the u. k. are running out of appeals and he will likely be brought to the us to face espionage charges that would effectively result in a life sentence. now data from th

then comes julian assange. what did he do? wiki weeks, it was, it was someone else he didn't know this or nicky. again. bob, this is 2001 us supreme court case that absolutely provides that people in the media provided. they don't feel this, they didn't per lowering this information, but they're reporting it for good when julian, a, sorry, i don't understand it. and the best part is where the people in the media, you know, rachel, every other day here in this country. there's some media outlets or web site closing down and shuddering and closing doors of people out of work. you would think they would sit there and say, not only are we under attack by virtue of what we do, but maybe maybe if, if we stood up for something, maybe more people would like us by her process. because media and journalism in this country, it's almost going extinct. and if this is the best part, when it affects your bottom, why and you don't say anything. think about that reporters journalists don't complain about something which is an existential threa

and then when you throw in the name like julian assange, you sort of give away your, your own motives and bringing this up at all. why would you have against your li, assange? julia sondra once upon a time was a very important journalist at some point, julian sans threw himself in with russian propaganda. and he took off from there. i think he's being treated terribly, i'm not, i'm not trying to you believe julian sanchez, a rush, an agent to a russian asset of some kind. i think he was doing the russian bidding when i certainly do i, somewhere about 10 years ago, he switched investigating all sorts of stories that dealt with russia and only concentrating on those stories that would be satisfactory from a russian point of view. so he became a propagandist with absolutely denies that as, as you know and says that is it, and i would expect them to deny it. we, the leaks, i know people for weekly, so have a lot of trouble with joy massage. they're not exactly his supporters. well, i did that suddenly, you news to us because we have the interview. a lot of people from wiki, like your agai

with the terrorists, according to one of the greatest journalists in the world. sy hersh with julian assange, allegedly being tortured today in london. we will perhaps have to wait a while before new wiki leaks cables here of the cia is at one with the strategy of 20 blue. can state department seen as the leading, leading on the war on russia through ukraine. dr. melvin goodman was at the cia for decades and is now professor of international relations at john hopkins university and senior fellow at the center for international policy joins me from washington. d. c. melvin. thank you so much for as of a coming on the show. you don't believe sy hersh a story that the north stream was blown up by biden blaine. can i newland ancillary arches pieces for the last few years that have been based on very little evidence whatsoever? which is why he has trouble getting published in washington and london, and he had to write his recent piece on some stack. he writes without evidence. he says he has anonymous sources. he says can deal his sources. and the recent piece was typical. it was based on things

and i can guarantee you of julian assange. it would not be extradited at least to the best that the british could do . the intelligent sharing which in and i can guarantee with the intelligence people at m, i 5 m i 6 i taught in the f, b i in c, i a and director of national intelligence. and they all despise julian. and that's why there's no way given that political context that the british would ever resist extradition a bruce of the i want to ask you back in october, i think it was, it was the us attorney general. bruce, a dramatic garland had announced, expanded protections for journalists to know how much, if a toll would that influence how the u. s. handles any eventual prosecution of julian songs. well, i don't think that particular announcement has any impact on you in his sons', it's simply stated that we would not be targeting, you know, journalist, you know, unless we had exhausted all other possibilities to try to get access to information . even though our u. s. supreme court is held that there is no constitutional

julian assange, edward snowden, chelsea manning? guest: what we are seeing a lot of people are saying in government people would admit this is the logical result, because if you classify everything at the end of the day nothing is safe. this is something that works on a psychological level, right? even 50 ar ago the pentagon papers case when daniel ellsberg release that classified secret history of america's involvement in vietnam. even then people in the nixon administration said too much information was given classified and it was leading people to be cynical as to whether the information was really dangerous and did have to be protected, so even 50 years ago people were saying that one reason why even then we were having these massive leaks was because too much information it was getting classified and people on the inside no longer believed it. ey themselves did not the information was actually secret. in the case of the pentagon papers, they would have had a point. afterward ellsberg would sometimes say that nobody could point

obviously we know that all those values do not include a free media because we've seen how are julian assange rocks in prison and no one in nato seems to give 2 hoots about that and touch your nose. let's try it and see right. how they felt. the film is coming out on april 20th. will you go watch it? yes, of course. it though, watching a vignette unite, so people, it's so impressive and gives me hope that soon we will all fly to space. let's take a look at another country space program. china has launch more than 500 satellites since 1970. beijing also has.

curious at all in terms of, or any kind of compare of a moment that we're in in term helix editor julian assange. i append of course by the legendary agatha christie, apparently though that words and the need to remove references to ethnicity as culture. things do director. it's difficult to imagine agency, okay, this is the scenario, but if you to move that is culture move bad, embodying a disadvantage to the book, it should be curve things out of context because that would be basically a reading of this. i don't really doubt. there will be a segment except that storms and move forward my medalie because melody of that argument a little or another do that work is actually lost written between 1920 and 976. all right. the term orient is just gone. of the new versions will leave him a couple of english professors who say that rewriting famous literature works can become pat, often edition awful pref is, or because otherwise we're just trying to eat. reason wanted to your people who have been carrying the colonial burden. this is comments or some other kind of, you know, he does, who has got that.

what happens if you give up the good in from your if you are a julian assange? no good. if you're daniel ellsberg and god bless bad tie, e b and others who have come to know what the media they are. the media hubris of this is inexplicable. ex catch option on gas right after the break. i'm here the the.

a case is julian assange, why do you think the australian government and authorities and secret services and perhaps the cia control is behind it? on detecting you, you are seeing the diplomat. you were advising on foreign policy in previous decades. crucially, and ambassador to poland, back then during the cold war, if you find yourself an attack or is it by a mission, do they just not invite you on television programs to try and keep what you say from the australian public? it has certainly been an attempt to, to make me and on this and to publicly challenge my voice in australia. it's a long time since i've worked. there are retired in 1998 so that some 25 years ago. but no other the math that you worked with, share your views and the current ambassadors of diplomatic. i mean maybe you're not in touch with them. they don't share your worry for the future of australia or if it continues to tie itself to washington. a declining power is considered by many unless even within the united states, quite a few to share my concerns, but i tend to compartmentalize, i tend to be a big picture ma

k. jail journalist julian assange, the loan, the assassination of a russian journalist, blood, and out ascii in st. petersburg this week. no. there was just one big story in nato nations, the rest of popular opposition leader, donald trump, who spoke on tuesday of his possible death penalty less prominent was the prospect of nuclear war. as us politicians ignored warnings from begging not to meet taiwanese politicians, sighing when in california for more on nater. second front is it fights russia through ukraine is collier host of the silicon seal podcast about chinese history. culture and politics is in bali in that foundational nation of an online movement. indonesia. gotcha. thank you so much for coming on after all these years. i think many people around the world, what's your trick round here? your podcast. let's just kick off thou with what you think of this taiwanese leda arriving. i don't know why. why do you think she's even in the u. s. she said she's going to guatemala and billy's, and it was just as she couldn't get a direct flight and had to fly through new york, which is

situation when gerchikavich broke out around gerchikavich, this company and no one remembers julian assangeelse remembers our citizen journalist maria putina, who gave birth here for 2 years in prison only because she was engaged in journalism and participated in the work, in most cases the charges are very dubious and they are our people from europe from other countries what americans never do they didn't agree comply with the requirements of the bilateral consular convention, according to which, if they have suspicions about russian citizens and in films, they need to turn to the russian federation and express their concerns, so i want to say again that there is a channel for discussing these things, and such a job. it does not imply publicity, publicity. in this case. maybe, only , uh, complicate this process for obvious reasons by a professional. it doesn't need to be explained. please russia indicate that ukraine does not comply their obligations. russia deliberately, uh, withdraw from this deal or is going to stay in it performs. uh, their obligations. uh, ukraine has nothing to do wi

that would be of julian assange. it would appear that his attorney's now data from the d o. j shows that they haven't a sovereignty of jurisdiction due to decades old extra closely. this has been judicial. julian is not committed a crime. he didn't do anything different to the espionage act. 17 count. so it's 117 who leaked the documents did not need to hack into a computer or a term that set up cameras and recording devices throughout the ecuador and embassy in london. and turned over all of that tape to the cia vis a rating attorney client privilege. we have the fact that julian is not a us citizen. so there's that question of how he can even be charged under the espionage act. wiki weeks is not a u. s. based publication. so i've sat in on the trials and then during coven was getting up at 5 in the morning and getting links to follow the trials of the video stream. and when you look at all of the details of the case, and i think that's one of the reasons why the u. k. judicial system made it so difficult to cover. it's clear that this is not the best of british jurispruden

julian assange arrested in london he was taken into custody on the territory of the ecuadorian embassy​​the diplomatic mission harbored the founder of the wikileaks portal for 7 years, but then the ecuadorian authorities withdrew the siege of the right to asylum after the arrest, a long process of negotiations on the extradition of a sanja to the united states began about a year ago british ministry of the interior despite all the complaints and protests gave the go-ahead. the united states faces a siege, on the totality of the charges 175 years in prison. washington does not forgive the founder of wickelix, publishing a dream of thousands of secret documents, mostly military operations. in iraq and afghanistan, now a 51-year-old australian, still in a london prison, his numerous supporters, lawyers and his wife still expect to avoid extradition to the states, which is for the main whistleblower. it will most likely be tantamount to death. this is how this one was day in history. we live in a great country, and it's true. this is a memory, someone likes it, someone doesn’t , but it is

i mean, julian assange has been on this show general michael flynn. he's been on this show and i got to say a songy, flynn virtually annihilated after they talked about what was really going on or away from the press releases the state department away from arguable lies in the so called mainstream corporate media. sons', of course, arguably being tortured according to the un repertory in london at the moment. this updated edition. and people must be wondering and people ask the question, and you address it in this edition. how is it you are alive? given that you have blown the whistle on, some of the most horrific crimes that in a way are emblematic of west crimes. and you say in the book as one country after another in africa and latin america are in asia, is impoverished deliberately as strategy by the united states. in this book, you say you are targeted the, perhaps your health perhaps to stop you at the u. n. and you have fears for your family. well, yes. so when i 1st started to write the mark a long time ago, i contacted other people who had jo

three receipts of materials that constitute state secrets, no one remembers julian assange.r citizen- journalist maria butina anymore. we have about 60 people. here they sit, and in most cases the accusations. eh, very doubtful and never. and when the americans are removed , they have never deigned to comply with the requirements of the bilateral consular convention. sergey lavrov's last question was, and his assessment in general prospects. as the situation develops further with world security, we will hope that the desire to unite efforts and understand that splitting the world community is not to put oneself above others will prevail. uh, that's wrong too. now we are talking about the third world war. well, who needs it, but, apparently, someone is ready to go to the end, if i quote the statement again that if ukraine defeats russia, that is, there are chances to escape, then we will escape the third world war. like this a simple little thing, which for the time being replaces the normal professional conversations about the responsible, which is now being headed , is fini

three committing a crime obtaining materials that constitute state secrets, no one remembers julian assanges about 60 people. the accusations sitting here in most cases are very dubious and not once, but with uh, hmm, the kidnapping of our people from europe from other countries. what are the americans doing, they have never deigned to fulfill the requirements of the bilateral consular convention. last question sergey lavrov was, and we will hope for his safety that the desire to unite efforts and understand that splitting the world community into billions 7 billion will nevertheless prevail. this is wrong. insert yourself above others. this is also wrong. now we are talking about the third world war. well, who needs it, but , apparently, someone is ready, then if ukraine defeats russia, that is, there are chances to escape, then we will escape the third world war. here is such a simple little thing that so far replaces normal professional talk about responsible politicians. well, despite the fact that sergei lavrov and that part of the russian delegation, which is now headed , is finishing

the commission of a crime, obtaining materials that constitute state secrets no one remembers julian assange. no one remembers our citizen journalist maria butina anymore. we have about 60 people. here they sit. uh, on most charges. uh, very dubious, and they've only ever uh kidnapped our people from europe from other countries. what are the americans doing, they have never deigned to fulfill the requirements of the bilateral consular convention. sergey lavrov's last question was about his assessment of the prospects in general. as the situation develops further with world security, we will hopefully hope for the fact that joining forces and understanding that the world community is splitting into a billion 7 billion is wrong to insert yourself above others. this is also wrong. now we are talking about the third world war. well, who needs it, but, apparently, someone is ready to go to the end, if i quote the statement again that if ukraine defeats russia , then it’s a simple little thing that so far replaces the normal professional conversations of responsible politicians, despite the fact t

files have not been publicly available in the united states, perhaps, since the revelations of julian assange or former nsa employee edward snowden, and now in america something has leaked again and the newwork newspaper has flowed. the times which first released the confidential documents is considered the main cistern of the us community rank, so it's a big question. is it by chance that the leak is too much on time just a day before us secretary of state anthony blinkin announced the start of an allegedly imminent apu offensive, however, declassified maps and diagrams. they say rather the opposite. and now, according to reuters, the us is struggling to identify the source. the leak considers about 5 versions, including the so-called mole that undermines the security of the states or even just a disgruntled intelligence officer who made snowden the united states of america there are people. who can not come to terms with violations of the fundamental. articles of the constitution the united states of america cannot accept the violation of the rights of americans, this repels individuals, in

citizenship and found himself 20 years later on this marriage is, are obviously not as famous a case of julian assange, why do you think the australian government and authorities and secret services, and perhaps the cia control is behind it? on attacking you, you are senior diplomat. you're advising on foreign policy in previous decades. crucially, ambassador to poland, back then during the cold war, do you find yourself an attack or is it by a mission? do they just not invite you on television programs to try and keep what you say from the australian public? it has certainly been an attempt to, to make me in on this and to publicly challenge my voice in australia. it's a long time since i've worked with 1998. so that's 25 years ago. but no other good on that you worked with share your views and the current ambassadors of the diplomatic. i mean, maybe you're not in touch with them. they don't share your worry for the future of australia or if it continues to tie itself to washington. a declining power is considered by many unless even within the united states. quite a few do, share my concerns, but i

chris hedges, highlights the us extradition, pace of australian journalist and weekly found, or julian assange. next san modus operandi, thanks for turning in love with . what we've got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy confrontation, let it be an arms race group is on often very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successful, very difficult time to sit down and talk.

just do you believe that julian assange can get a fair trial in the eastern district of virginia, where his jury would be made up of people who work for, or people who have relatives or friends who work for the cia, the f. b. i the pentagon, the department of homeland security or intelligence community contractors. but i think it's impossible for him to get a fair trial no matter where he is, because he's being charged under the espionage act. but you bring up a good point that he has been indicted in the most conservative court in the entire country. that is the bashed and it's at the center of the cia, the essay, the f, b i all these intelligence agencies. so it would hardly be a friendly jury pool, and again, it's known as a rocket docket because it just jams cases through and it is a known as a brute old the most conservative court in the country, which is saying a law thief. ok. so i did the fact that they strategically decided to do that shows, you know, it just goes, but lives is ation of those. and how much it's about politics, the now about any personal mosquito, because we see

when committing a crime, obtaining materials that constitute state secrets , no one remembers julian assangeno one else remembers about our citizen journalist maria in most cases , the accusations are very dubious and not once, but with uh, the abduction of our people from europe from other countries. what are the americans doing, they have never deigned to comply with the requirements bilateral consular convention. sergey lavrov's last question was about his assessment of the prospects in general. how will the situation develop further with world security, the desire to unite efforts and the understanding that the world community is splitting into billions of 7 billion. it is wrong to insert yourself above others. uh, that's wrong too. now we are talking about the third world war. well , who needs it, but, apparently, someone is ready to go to the end, if i quote the statement again that there is such a simple a thing that so far replaces normal professional conversations about responsible politicians, despite the fact that sergey lavrov and that part of the russian delegation that is now h

according to one of the greatest journalists in the world, sy hersh with julian assange, allegedly being tortured today in london. we will perhaps have to wait a while before new.

if you're, if you are a julian assange, no good. if you're daniel ellsberg independent, got papers, you're a hero. it's, she's never ceases to amaze me and god bless bad, tidy and others who have come forward to, to basically let us know what the press should be, letting us know what the media, what they are, the media. i mean, i, i don't even know where to start with is the, the hubris of this is inexplicable. ok. most in west african nation of nigeria have joined the world wide celebration of each of which signals they and the ramadan. a foss takes place, depending on the phase of the moon. after 30 days, either celebrated before days. celebration brings people together to conduct friends and can be held in last private home. though, even if i say the fee for $4.00 days is what the shooting holds. great importance in faith, i was considered to be a period of spiritual is a to z, a z. i did is one of the 1st one white of the, you know, he's on a deal last night with easy like everybody you know, move around on the next. so easy you

if you're, if you're a julian assange, no good. if you're daniel ellsberg independent gon papers, you're a hero. it just never ceases to amaze me and god bless bad to be and others who have come forward to, to basically let us know what the press should be, letting us know what the media, what they are, the media. i mean, i, i don't even know where to start with is the, the hubris of this is inexplicable. now, a lesser known series of massacres during the 2nd world war involve the mass murder holds by ukrainian nationalists. next or documentary team chronicles what lead up to the killings and how they remain a major point of discord between the nation. ah, ah. the news? oh, hold on to just laughs. come jackie, she calls steve your keys in one of the van with a grace community. i mean, not to respond on the school, a new new, not sure how a yearly group we are. you only looking for a policy of moving a couple of those to some of them with a huge to meet with or different products like you know who doesn't screw up, so don't focus a

information of people like then you will whistle blower and your look, if you're, if you're a julian assange, no good. if you're daniel ellsberg dependent on papers, you're a hero. it just never ceases to amaze me and god bless bad to be and others who have come forward to, to basically let us know what the press should be, letting us know what the media, what they are, the media. i mean, i, i don't even know where to start with is the, the new breasts of this is inexplicable while a row sub this and usa took out all c dot com for lots of more interesting stories on will be by itself without, ah, what he's got to do is identify the threats that we have. it's crazy implementation . let it be an arms race. his on offense, very dramatic development. only personally, i'm going to resist. i don't see how that strategy will be successfully, very critical time. time to sit down and talk. 2 ah. 2 there's a dichotomy around whistle blowing in south africa. on the one hand, there is an unusually large number of both public sector and private sector whistleblowers who have reported on waste, fraud, abu