earlier i spoke to mike newton, he's a ukraine expert at the halo trust, a charity that helps countries recover from military conflicts. i asked him, what impact land mines have had on the civilian population of ukraine since war broke out on the impact of, of land mines? i think, despite the scale of the contamination, which is the largest in europe since world war 2. i think the scale of that and even the impacts has yet to be fully realized, needs to remember that this was still ongoing. and as we heard from the last couple of couple of reports, we know that ukrainian g d p is done by 25 percent agricultural is done by 30. this isn't just a, a localized regional problem. warning current is having a global impact. and unfortunately, bombers like the ones we heard from him, it's like a very difficult choice. it's either go out, compare the fields and risk it out and risk their lives to one and livelihood made a living, or don't and potentially lose that likelihood. and, and i've seen from, from very personal experience around that, around the northern crane and was seeing this will lab

up for a fall because mike wilson and marko kolanovic on one side, credit suisse today on the other side credit suisse says technicals point to further equity strength mark newton says no evidence of any break in trends. the area near 4200 could prove challenging to immediately exceed given the lack of catalyst however, no evidence of any reversal is apparent at this time and a bit of waning in breadth. >> there is strong positive technical momentum that's obvious if you're looking at the nasdaq. i think the conversation comes down -- and i shared with you on monday -- i think the market did a good job in the fall discounting economic weakness. i think we're in the midst of that economic weakness right now. the real question becomes where do we go with earnings and where i'm wrong on my assessment that i would be very surprised if we retreat to the october lows is if this earnings recession extends far further than we believe. i think collectively there's the belief that it's going to take the shape of a v a v-shaped time of earnings contracted -- >> if you look at estimates for later in the year -- >> correct >> -- to your point, they go up. >> that's price se