election integrity expert and co host of a wakeup and the combo couch and in perth, ontario, we cross randy hiller, he is a former elected representative of the ontario legislature of 15 years. he tell me cross talk roles, and in fact, that means you can jump anytime you want. and i always appreciate, daniel, i'm sure you came across the, the visit of the nato secretary general sultan burg to camp 1st time since the complex started and just banging the drum who ukraine will become a member of the alliance. but he seems to be oblivious what has happened in the last 14 months or so, or what brought this conflict about in the 1st place? because as i said in my introduction, i mean either you talk geo politics or you talk id, ology, he prefers the always default to ideology. and that's why this conflict cannot be easily resolved. because one side is thinking about geopolitical interests and another is on a, for lack of a better word. holy war, daniel. you know, peter, i got a little bit worried about stolen berg, the other day when he was there, i've been some i thought he might have been turned by pu