we also know that the chairman, enrique tario, had ties to roger stone. mean for possible charges against trump? what would prosecutors need to show? >> so, there is this big question about whether or not prosecutors will be able to connect trump to the violent assault on the capitol. i think there's a lot of information that they'll be able to connect to other efforts to overturn the election, pressure on mike pence, et cetera, but this is the key one, and we should recall that the january 6th select committee in the house made a criminal referral to the justice department, saying they had sufficient evidence that called for at least an investigation as to whether or not president trump aided and abetted an insurrection. the fact that we have this verdict is important as a foundation to that kind of a claim. once again, if there were an acquittal in the case, that would just go away. it would not really be on the table. it is on the table. so, the question is, in part, what you asked with roger stone. is there enough connective tissue? will they be able