mr. norman, mr. norman! is that you? mr. norman, over here! no, that's not him. and that's the opposite of greg norman. i thought i would never find greg norman, but then the opposite happened. i found him. there he is, the ceo of liv golf, greg norman, watching the action through the dollar signs in his eyeballs. i for one am shocked the billion-dollar liv golf business is suffering despite leadership by a man credited using a stick to hit a ball into the hole. then i got a call. hey, dad, it's jr. >> james: i know who you are, jr. appear >> i figured out how to shave your dismay when really? you didn't die? >> i'm bleeding a lot, i am standing on a pile of red paper towels. i respect you a lot and always will unless you sell out to autocracy for money. >> james: why do you say that? >> that might be the excessive blood loss talking, where the bandits? >> james: due to the florida seat, my suit smells like a diaper and i decided not to beg greg norman for a job you're to screw you, greg norman! oh, he heard that, let's go. we witness the impossible, a journalist

mr. norman? mr. norman, no. mr. roy? mr. roy, no. >> two hard line republicans on the powerful house rules committee tried but failed to block that bill from advancing to the floor. now speaker kevin mccarthy is trying to rally as he faces a growing gop revolt and the looming threat now of being out offed. our cnn congressional correspondent is live on capitol hill. bottom line, does kevin mccarthy have the numbers he needs? lauren? >> republicans and democratic leadership, they're all confident they're going to be able to get the votes to pass this tonight. the first hurdle is going to be a vote on the house floor to pass the rule. traditionally ma jord will be responsible for getting that across the finish line. they may need support to get that over the finish line. we're told they expect democrats are going to jump in and make sure that that rule passes after that. there will be the final vote on this legislation in the house of representatives. this is a rare moment on capitol hill when you have so many bills that pass

mr. norman. mr. norman: thank you, andy. i want to thank all of my members behind me that has the courage to stand up to say no to this bill. folks, the two factions that are supporting this bill, china, because they are just buying more debt to control america, and the biden administration, which, as the hearings are showing, is corrupt and compromised to china. and we want to add the credit cards to give him to spend our money? as been said, unlimited debt ceiling and extended through january of 2025? that's insanity. who would do that? and i'm tired of hearing, as andy says, we'll do it tomorrow. i'm tired of hearing, well, the senate's not going to pass it. i'm tired of that. i'm not in the senate. the house, the reason the democrats got kicked out in january is because they wanted a change. they wanted a conservative change. this bill does nothing to that. if nothing else, if you examine the bill, the existing debt that we got is $32 trillion in counting. to give you a concept, $1 trillion, at 3%, is $30 billion. $1 tri

mr. norman. mr. norman, no. mr. roy? mr. roy, no. >> two hard line republicans on the very powerful house rules committee tried but failed to block the deal from advancing to the floor. they are vowing to continue fighting fence it along with other members of the house freedom caucus. >> because joe biden was in a box. he was up against the ropes. and we should have held him there and gotten more for the american people than a spending freeze for $4 trillion. >> speaking mccarthy walking a tightrope this morning trying to rally support for that bill and facing growing dissent among far right republicans and that threat of being ousted from his job. time is running out for congress to preventil a default. joining us congressman tom emmer from minnesota, the majority whip in the house. the big question which i know you are getting is where things stand. house majority leader steve scalise saying last night despite the harsh criticism, the caucus is coming together around the legislation. do you agree? do you have the votes? >>

mr. norman: it's not fair, i don't know how we walk this back but this bill will protect and help this country and stop what this president is implementing. thank you so much. mr. roy: reserve. the speaker pro tempore: members on both sides are reminded to direct your comments to the chair. the gentlewoman from pennsylvania vek fiesed. ms. scanlon: thank you. i just have to push back a little bit on the idea that somehow immigrants coming to this country are taking advantage of our police and different parts of our society. the cato institute of all places has published recently a study that shows there's a net economic benefit for several generations when we have immigrants come to this country. and of course there's also the continuing inaccurate characterization of these folks coming here illegally when they're applying for asylum. at this point, mr. speaker, i would yield 3 1/2 minutes to the gentleman from massachusetts, the distinguished ranking member of the committee on rules, mr. mcgovern. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for 3 1/2 minutes. mr. mcgovern: we're abou

mr. norman, from south carolina for two minutes. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman is recognized for two minutes. mr. norman: as i sit here and listen, i'm on rules committee. i hope all those listening in the balcony, what my democrat friends are saying are just words. my strong belief that this fentanyl bill, h.r. 467, is a step in the right direction. now, the issue that is plaguing this country is the invasion of the border. when have we heard one word from my democratic colleagues from stopping the invasion? we're a nation of borders. every nation is sovereign or you cease to be a nation. that's where our fentanyl is coming in. it shocks me to hear you say it's coming in designated points of entry. there are no designated points of entry, the whole border is open. and why, why the lives that are lost through the drug overdoses that killed 100,000 of our young people last year, why does that not resonate? i have no earthly idea why this administration is intent on keeping our borders open and they know it. you got a vice pr

mr. norman, both members of the rules committee. mr. massey met with you, you are not concerned with the rule or the committee on the floor? >> look, this -- since we took the majority i wanted to change things in washington. and nancy as speaker had broken this place, people could not read the bills. this is 99 pages, 15 of them of just rescinding the wasteful washington spending. everybody has an opportunity to read it, opportunity for their own opinion so they can say their own opinion. that's the idea of congress. >> speaker mccarthy, how many conservatives can you lose on this bill and still pass it? >> well, we'll work through it and make that happen. >> any reason why we would not expect a vote tomorrow night and clarity, would the debate not start until after 7:15? >> talk to steve, he manages the floor. >> have you spoken to leader jeffries about democratic votes. >> i haven't talked to him today. >> is that necessary to do -- >> always two parties vote at the end. the thing that's very interesting here is the largest savings i

they are representative here tonight by mrs. norman schwarzkopf. e] [applause] [applause] [applause] we are all very grateful general schwarzkopf and to all of those serving with him. i would like to also recognize whenen he came with mrs. schwarzkopf, powell, the wife of the distinguished chairman of the joint chiefs. [applause] [applause] and to the families and to the families let me see our courses in the gulf will not stay there long day longer than is necessary to complete their mission. [applause] the courage and the success of our pilots in kuwaiti, saudi, french, the canadian, the italian, the pilots of bahrain allra are proof that for the fit time since world war ii the international community is united. the readership of the united nations once only a hoped-for ideal is now confirming its founder's vision. [applause] i am heartened that we are not being asked to bear alone the financial burdens of the struggle. last year our friendsen a and as provided the bulk of the economic cost of desert shield and now having received commitment to ov

they are represented here tonight by mrs. norman schwarzkopf. [applause] [applause] we are all very grateful to general schwarzkopf and to all those serving with him. and i might also recognize one who came with mrs. schwarzkopf. alma powell, the wife of the distinguished chairman of the joint chiefs. [applause] and to the families, let me say our forces in the gulf will not stay there one day longer than n is necessary to complete their mission. [applause] the courage and success of the raf pilots, of the kuwaiti, saudi, french, the canadians, the italians, the pilots of qatar and bahrain, all are proof that for the first time since world war ii, the international community is united. the leadership of the united nations, once only a hoped-for ideal, is now confirming its founders' vision. [applause] i am heartened that we are not being asked to bear alone the financial burdens of this struggle. last year, our friends and allies provided the bulk of the economic costs of desert shield. and now, having received commitments of over $40 billion for

the families of our men and women serving in the goal for they are represented here tonight but mrs. norman schwarzkopf. [applause] [applause] [applause] >> were all very grateful to general and all of those serving with him. and i might also recognize one who came, the wife of the distinguished chairman of the joint chiefs. [applause] and to the families let me say, our forces in the gulf will not stay there one day at longer than necessary to complete their mission. [applause] courage, and the success of the pilots, the kuwaiti, saudi, french, the canadians, the italians, the pilots of guitar and by rain are all proof that for the first time of world war ii that community is united with the leadership of the united nation once only and only hope for ideal is now confirming its founder's vision. [applause] and i am heartened to we are not being asked to bear alone the financial burdens of the struggle. last year our friends and allies provided the bulk of the economic cost of desert shield. i now have a received commitment to over $40 billion for the first three months of 1991 i am confide

mr. norman i believe it's having all of the lives and livelihoods of hard-working americans. >> the 5 billion i think is the number in here that has been covered so far, where's that money going? >> that would come back into the fund. but five and half billion dollars has been recovered. but the department of labor has said there's a part of the 191 billion of fraud. an outside report say there's up to $400 billion of fraud. think about this. the unemployment was just over $800 billion. even the department of labor serves 191 billion of fraud. but we've only recovered five billion. there is a big problem. >> in other words the juice would be worth the squeeze to recover 5% more than has been covered now? >> it would be nice, it would be nice to get hard earned tax paying dollars in the right places for these are fraudsters. there were individuals that took unemployment out in more than 40 different states. we are talking about people who committed fraud. not people who got overpayments. this language of this bill is very specific on pages four and five. it is only with people who have intent

mr. norman: efforts to defund the police department. no more police. their the party -- they're the party of defunding the police. and what better time to celebrate the fact that men and women are willing to do this, they see things we don't see. they go places we don't go. and to have 135 officers shot in 2023 is unacceptable. to have 15 officers killed by gun fire, 43 officers shot in an ambush-style attack. the amount of officers shot in the line of duty is up 52% from this time in 2020. and i just -- you know, words are cheap. but it's what we as a party are doing to support the police. the statistics are outrageous. i look forward to considering legislation that supports our police officers and condemns the leftist efforts to dismantle local law enforcement agencies, which they do. to all those in law enforcement, thank you. for those who are willing to go through good times and bad times to protect us, thank you. and god bless every police officer in this country. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentlewoman f

mr. ralph norman of north carolina and chip roy both voted no on the rule. my point in support occur 30 that's my point. guest: thanks for those questions. let me take the second one first. this question about the rules committee what representative chip roy has said. he thought the understanding was that republicans would have to stay unanimous to be able to push things through the rules committee. that was never actually reported as part of the deal. i think it would've been kind of strange in that case. when i give all nine seats on the rules committee to the freedom caucus types? they could literally have a veto over it. instead of these folks who were thought of as insurgents, not close to mccarthy. matthew voted for speaker to be house or -- house speaker through that process and voted with kevin mccarthy. you would think having three seats on the committee is its own kind of power rather than imagining anyone of those members gets a veto. the other part of your question was aren't we going to keep going back to this every year if we don't have some ki

mr. norman i believe it's having all of the lives and livelihoods of hard-working americans. >> the 5 billion i think is the number in here that has been covered so far, where's that money going? >> that would come back into the fund. but five and half billion dollars has been recovered. but the department of labor has said there's a part of the 191 billion of fraud. an outside report say there's up to $400 billion of fraud. think about this. the unemployment was just over $800 billion. even the department of labor serves 191 billion of fraud. but we've only recovered five billion. there is a big problem. >> in other words the juice would be worth the squeeze to recover 5% more than has been covered now? >> it would be nice, it would be nice to get hard earned tax paying dollars in the right places for these are fraudsters. there were individuals that took unemployment out in more than 40 different states. we are talking about people who committed fraud. not people who got overpayments. this language of this bill is very specific on pages four and five. it is only with people who have intent

mr. norman both members of the risk many in this mess he said he met with you but is not announced his voice yet or rule. >> look, this since we do the majority i wanted to change things in nancy as speaker broken were people cannot be developed in a thousand page bills, trillions of dollars and this is a 99 pages 15 of them are resending the way the washington does this and everybody has an opportunity to read it for their own opinions so they can save your own opinions and that is the idea of congress. >> how many conservatives can use on this bill is so passive it. >> well, we will work through to make sure that i have a. >> only recently when is a circular sometime turn i clarity the debate would not start until after 715, with the vote come sometime after that. >> the boat will be tomorrow the debate will be tomorrow. >> about jeffries about the democratic personality he might be able to provide. >> have not talked to him yet today. >> isn't necessary to do this. >> we been her longtime anytime there is an agreement with the party are overweight and always two parties evoke for that thi

mr. ralph norman of north carolina and chip roy both voted no on the rule. support occur 30 that's my point. guest: thanks for those questions. let me take the second one first. this question about the rules committee what representative chip roy has said. he thought the understanding was that republicans would have to stay unanimous to be able to push things through the rules committee. that was never actually reported as part of the deal. i think it would've been kind of strange in that case. when i give all nine seats on the rules committee to the freedom caucus types? they could literally have a veto over it. instead of these folks who were thought of as insurgents, not close to mccarthy. matthew voted for speaker to be house or -- house speaker through that process and voted with kevin mccarthy. you would think having three seats on the committee is its own kind of power rather than imagining anyone of those members gets a veto. the other part of your question was aren't we going to keep going back to this every year if we don't have some kind of cap in

and i swear that the norman take the beloved the the story of yours, mr. charlotte brown, the soldier monument was erected in 1947 in the estonian capital by the associates authorities origin. any bells have found the burial site of troops remains. it's the memorials of the soldiers who gave their lives in world war 2 was the risk of the apartment. and waiting for the familiar transition. in 2007, the stony government decided to relocate the monument from the city center of gods. by me to attempt were in the 1st season to move divided. the population is stony as lodge of russian speaking communities strongly opposed. it an intense rising, broke out in town in these have since become as the bronze knight drives me to bring people across the there's an old roman maxim see advice that puts you in a pair of them. if you would love peace, be prepared for war. now the logic behind this was an attack was a slightly, if you look like it, you are more prepared. however, in a present day, it seems not about how much you are prepared, but more importantly, how prepared are your alliance. it's sk

norman state university, and matthew down. the job who strategist, and founder of country over party. mr. dowd, earlier today, i interviewed the ceo of wells fargo, the former treasury secretary, former head of the congressional budget office, and the head of mckinsey, who all said, if we default, it will be so economically disastrous, we don't even know how far will reach. i understand why the white house does not want to negotiate with republicans here, it's not even a fair negotiation, but do you think that if that happens, the white house runs the risk that they could be blamed by, at least, some of the american people who don't know the details of how this works? >> as you mentioned at, i have a wells fargo credit card. i was just thinking, maybe i can call them up and say, i won't pay my bill until you cut your staff in new york by 10%. can i do that with wells fargo? i'm hoping, if that's the fact that i can take, i will. >> you have made the perfect analogy, but there is millions of people out there, who might not know that. so, what do you do, politically if, you're the white hou

norman, as a year, to stand on the subject, hungary to top, superman has criticized ukraine's president zalinski over amongst about latin aid to members, states stones on the conflict hung with pharmacists, as mrs announced he is delusional as a but a pet will not take orders from keith about which countries 8 can maintain relations with according to ukrainian president vladimir zalinski, hungary behavior as a nato member state is inappropriate. fortunately, he is not the one to decide this hungarian people have already paid an extremely high price for this war. with us i gave of long class, so the cranes that statement of ethnic hungarians in the country now some of those of, of, of in questioning why misses. and she thinks he can dictate rules to a native member state despite you. queerness of not being a member of the contribution racial moslem presents abuse on the issue. if raining, president vladimir zalinski gave a wide, raging interview to a group of scandinavian journalists and brought up this nato summit that sat for july. now last year ukraine submitted a fast track application to joined the transit lansing military alliance. and he wasn't even dry on that application before. zalinsk

norman lear, how you still awake? you 100 and i'm 50." [ laughter ] "i -- i know these people got a battery pack in you. are you still alive, mrhment 'cause i'm 50, and 8:30, i'm out. [ laughter ] i take this wig and this bra off, and it's over [ laughter ] >> seth: at least -- it's good that it's not time-released at 8:30, and then if you're out in public, that'd be -- >> oh, it is time-released [ light laughter ] >> seth: you -- you pull from your life in your wonderful sitcom you have -- you have eight kids, you have three grandkids how do they feel about the fact that your show is -- is a little autobiographical >> you know, they all excited, but i have -- i have four kids that somebody gave to me i'm not gonna say i adopted them, 'cause somebody dropped them off and said, "these are your crack babies. [ laughter ] and so, i never adopted anybody's kids, they always give 'em to me. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> and they don't never come insured, either. [ laughter ] so, the new crack babies that i'm raising, they're a little bougie they come up to me one day and they said, "we googled you and we're rich." i said, "get tho

mr. rick, would you agree with that? >> i agree that happens frequently, and i think the high deductible phase in particular for patients where they're exposed to full list pricing is in a norman's difference between what they pay and what the system pays and that creates a surplus in supporting premiums or other things. >> so i want to ask our three representatives, mr. joiner, who owns your pbm company? >> cvs health. and it is there a connection also to at night? the large insurer? >> yes that's right. >> doctor who owns express scripts? >> senator, the cigna group owns express scripts. another large insurer correct? >> yes health care. and i apologize. if i've mispronounced your name. another, a note -- another large employer and insurer. to me, this is an example of the systems incentive. if you are in fact negotiating for your client. you are negotiating for your owners who are all large insurers, for other plan sponsors that are insurance companies. for large self-insured employers . but you're not in -- you're not negotiating for the customer. because it's not up to you what the people who hire you or for whom you work decide to do with that discount, they could pass it

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mr. norman both members of the rules committee, -- met with you and has not announced as vote yet. you are not concerned with the role? >> since we took the majority i wanted to change things in washington. and nancy as speaker had broken this place so people cannot read the bills. there were thousand page bills, trillions of dollars. this is 99 pages. 15 of them just resending the wasteful washington spending. so everybody has an opportunity to read it. everybody has an opportunity for their own opinion so they can say their own opinion, that is the idea of congress. >> how may conservatives can you move on this bill and still pass it? >> we will work through it and make sure to make that happen. >> is there any reason why we would not expect a vote sometime tomorrow night and clarity with the debate not starting until after 17 bam -- 715? >> have you spoken leader jeffries about democratic votes and how many he may be able to provide? >> i have not. >> is that necessary to do -- >> you have been here a long time. anytime there is an agreement with two parties there is always two