gracheva this is our weekly interview on russia 24 channel called they are the church and we media vakhtang kipshidze, vakhtang vladimirovich hello well, as a secular person, as a secular speaker, let's start with secular political news, but not of a religious nature. and how do you feel about the fact that now in official polish documents in maps in all hmm cartographies of poland now, kaliningrad, e, will be called the city, krovits and region, respectively , this decision was made in warsaw in roulette. you know, i think that, unfortunately, this measure should not be regarded at all as a desire to restore some kind of historical justice, or i do not know the expression of my attitude to certain historical events. this, in my opinion, is a completely emotional measure, which is aimed only at somehow harming russia, well, there are no other motives for making this decision. well i think the general idea is, uh, to use history. as a weapon as a tool to incite discord. it never led to anything good. strictly speaking, as we know in his time, the most holy patriarch. made a lot of efforts to try to re