i’m sorry , we just have to go to diplomacy on this occasion valery chalyy. t, extraordinary honorable ambassador of ukraine in the united states, 15-19 years old, mr. valery. thank you for finding time for us. i congratulate you. glory to ukraine. glory to the heroes. see the first question . well, i'm a little confused. for me, china has always been a pragmatic, cautious country, and when the envoy from china advises, well, according to what he says . the wall street journal advises ukraine to stop the fire and forget about some territories . i'm not saying big or small, but just some. it seems to me that this is somehow absurd from the point of view of pragmatism, well , it's obvious that this is an impossible situation on today, we understand that everything can change someday, but as of today, as of yesterday, and i hope that it will be impossible for tomorrow, then why present such a version of the development of events when you definitely understand that it is not feasible. and you are a pragmatist , please, mr. valery, come on first of all, i will not

thank you valery chalyi, diplomat, ambassador of ukraine to the united states from 15 to 19 years andan of the board of the ukrainian crisis media center was with us now before domestic ukrainian events, so the head of the parliamentary assembly of the council of europe is proposing ukraine to hold elections . and no one is better than oleksiy koshel, the head of what historian, the committee of voters of ukraine, does not know the situation in our country , election pre-election post, election non-election, anti-election, he knows all this . if it is realistic, i think if everyone is ordered to go to the elections, then everyone will go. yes, if it is organized to open plots, it is not known how from 3d plots in kharkiv , it is not known how to open plots in kherson , it is not known how to open plots in sumy, by the way that is, there are many, many places for the plot, it cannot be opened, then it is not such an election. quasi-voter is such an election, what a mess, elections are held on crutches and so on and so on , and on the other hand, something is already in the minds of the

about collective security, but here , for example, the former ambassador of ukraine to the usa valery chalyid that there may have been some leading decisions at the 75th nato washington summit, which will take place next year, and then it would be good to get some legally certified assurance that ukraine will become a member of nato, maybe some kind of invitation, so let's hope for that, irina, thank you our correspondent valeria pashko from the capital, where the 15th kyiv security forum is taking place, came to leru. well , as for what will happen next , the meeting will take place today from 6 to 7 p.m. the leading american and ukrainian diplomats and experts of the atlantic panel will discuss important issues of ukrainian-american relations, so from the 18th to the 19th you can watch it in oter and on youtube of the espresso tv channel. the five-year-old wing of kliavova, the pereyaslav-khmelnytskyi city district court announced the verdict in the case of his murder . former police officer ivan prykhodko was sentenced to four years of imprisonment for manslaughter due to negligence, in a