that's sort of the theory that victor david hanson said and that leaving the laptop -- accidently leavinghe laptop may not just be because he was at stake. he has a passive aggressive nature of getting back at his dad. again, you know, here his dad is trying to take away people's gun rights and hunter will defend himself, you know, by using the second amendment and exerting his rights as an american to have a gun. pete: that's a possibility or he's a crack addict who couldn't recover and is scrambling to get money to pay debts and figure things out and now he's going td up a defense. another egg pun and scrambled up his defense and it's a second amendment. rachel: got to do what you got to do. will: not going to get into this tit for tat. pete: another thing. we asked about the second amendment defense and what he said. >> the irony should be lost on no one and a president that wants to restrict and his son wants to loosen bylaws by taking advantage of the second amendment as his defense to a potential gun unlawful weapons charge. even if he is able to avoid in the unlawful possession cha

what does victor david hanson think?he is at the hoover institute on the west coast. would you think about this latest trend? it's not because of marketing and this is organic. >> it is. i think people in the last couple of years, they are live and let live so they thought well, if somebody wants to fly the pride flag, fine if they are going to be lenient, fine but they are seeing it is existential. his civilizational.if you can't go to a park without stepping on feces or syringe or you are a hard-working small business person and you can't stop a shoplifter are you are on an airplane and you don't know if the pilot was selected on the basis of meritocracy. this is a new dimension and collectively people are saying it's not enough to turn off the oscars or to not watch the nba anymore. or don't go to first-run movies in the theater. there has to be more than that because we don't strike back or we don't push back these people are anarchists and they will destroy the very basis of civilization. if you can't go to university and have grades based on merit than the whole

victor david hanson saying this is really important that conservators are fighting back and pushing back and the reason why this is effective versus in the past, conservatives have wanted to boycott things and we're not as good as group think like the last solo not working in the past but this time it has and he says the reason is that this time what we're seeing is civilization and this is existential. listen. >> ily almost collectively people are saying it's not enough to turn off the oscars or not watch the nba or don't go to the first run movies in the theater. has to be more than that and if we don't strike back or push back, these people are anarchists and they'll destroy the very basis of the civilization if you can't go to university and have grades based on merit or emission, the whole system collapses and almost collectively spontaneously and people woke up and conservative dragon woke up and poked it so much saying we've got to get involved and we don't like boycotting and we'll boycott. pete: i think he's right but the real reason it's been successful is it's so easy. rachel:

trying to dollars of spending comes empty numbers it's important to keep some perspective though david hansonake on this. >> we are a new territory of what we're looking at with these 1.5 trillion or 2 trillion projected we never seen that before. this not the george w. bush deficits when he doubled him was the debt is not the obama deficits is not the donald trump deficit is a new magnitude hundred and 3% gdp international debt that's higher than any year at world war ii at the peak even in 1944 so we are playing 10% of the budget and interest alone in the interest rate can go much higher in two years will be paying more in the debt that we all for defense budgets what has to stop is this race car the stat race car did not get to be into it suddenly we are slowing down a little bit if the republicans want to stop it and they are the only people responsible to stop it they have to change their attitude we have the senate and the house and you have the presidency as you did under george w. bush in order donald trump you have to act because you've the reins of power but when you start going up

i want to round out this hour of coverage of the breaking news, with victor david hanson, bringing him back from the hoover institution to put things into perspective. victor, you did that so well. >> thank you. i think the american people are angry, of course. i mean, this is a the anniversary of d-day, americans died for this stuff. they died for equality under the law. they're also terrified. they don't know what the fbi or the cia, the doj, will not do. they feel they're capable of anything. they've had james comey feign amnesia, james clapper lie under oath, john brennan lie under oath, christopher wray almost risk going to jail to they had robert mueller feigning he didn't know anything. i guess they are just exasperated. these people, the irs, doj, what are they not capable of? they are scared. you cannot have a constitutional system of people who are scared of the government. that is what i am worried about. i think all of us if you testify for congress as one journalist did the irs has a note. this is not america. these people have weaponize and they are destroying piece by pi