i want to bring in david meehan, oceanographer right now friend of two of those on board.l, it's the worst possible outcome, all five _ now. well, it's the worst possible outcome, all five men _ now. well, it's the worst possible outcome, all five men not - now. well, it's the worst possible outcome, all five men not being i now. well, it's the worst possible i outcome, all five men not being able to come home. frankly, it's what i feared when i got the first call on monday about what had happened. initially, that hamish harding was in the sub and first dive titanic. that was not good. all of us in deep—sea, subsea community understand the risks put up and when you get news like that, it hits you in the pit of your stomach. and particularly when it's a friend. and later in the day that ph nargeolet was on board with hay maze. it's a double blow. hamish harding ——. i do not know stockton rush, he's part of my community. and then to hear a son and father were doing this on father's day was gut wrenching, isn't it? what we're learning today in terms of what they are seeing on