amy: pentagon papers whistleblower daniel ellsberg, speaking on democracy now! ber 2017 about his book "the doomsday machine: confessions of a nuclear war planner." two years later in 2019, i spoke to dan ellsberg a day after the justice department charged wikileaks founder julian assange with 17 counts of violating the espionage act for publishing u.s. military and diplomatic documents exposing u.s. war crimes. assange is locked up in london and faces up to 175 years in prison if extradited and convicted in the united states. >> yesterday is a day that will be -- live in the history of journalism, of law in this country, and of civil liberties in this country because it was a direct attack on the first amendment, an unprecedented one. there hasn't actually been such a significant attack on the freedom of the press, the first amendment, which is the bedrock of our republic, really, our form of government, since my case in 1971, 48 years ago. i was indicted as a source. and i warned newsmen then that that would not be the last indictment of a source if i were conv

henry kissinger said that daniel ellsberg was the most dangerous man in america. he had to be stopped. someone helped us avoid a disaster, maybe even a nuclear war in that case, lakes and the power of us, the american people saying enough is enough. there's a documentary in fact that's out there right now. i think it's on netflix. you might want to look for it. it shows just how close we came to letting the lives when it's called the movement and the madman, nixon's the madman. by the way, i would encourage you to check it out. it's, it's that good. and now once again, we find ourselves in the midst of a powerful weak that gives us information that we previously did not know. and this one is about the war and ukraine. and what it really is is exactly what we as citizens are supposed to know. for example, if our government has troops on foreign soil fighting a war, shouldn't we need to close that? of course we should. so our money could even be our son or our daughter over there . we better know the principle of a democracy is that we are transparent and that we sh

it is out of daniel ellsberg mostly on the list for the defense in the states department. prepared to answer the consequences. henry kissinger said that daniel ellsberg was the most dangerous man in america, and he had to be stopped. someone helped us avoid a disaster, maybe even a nuclear war, in that case, lakes and the power loss, the american people saying enough is enough. there's a documentary in fact that's out there right now. i think it's on netflix. you might want to look for it. it shows just how close we came to letting the lives when it's called the movement and the madman, nixon's the madman. by the way, i would encourage you to check it out. it's, it's that good. now, once again, we find ourselves in the midst of a powerful week. that gives us information that we previously did not know. and this one is about the war and ukraine. and what it really is is exactly what we as citizens are supposed to know. for example, if our government has troops on foreign soil fighting a war, shouldn't whole fact. of course, we should start money could even be our son or our daughter ov

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this is something that daniel ellsberg has been warning us about since 1971. the government always lies to us and they lied to us about the policy and then they lied to us about the success of the policy. now here we are, what 53 years later and literally nothing has changed. you know, i little, i want to bring up something else about these documents. if i could go, i was wondering for a long time until he until jack to share was actually caught you whether this was what's called an authorized leak. because every one of these stories, as it was appearing in the media, maybe administration look good. for example, we learned from the leaks that, that the gibson government was going to sell missiles to russia. the us intervene and they ended up selling the missiles to ukraine. right. that makes map try sides . yes. and that makes the white house look so strong. and so influential the same thing about a b is riley, we're going to use really and they say i'm electrons and the south koreans and the moroccans and the cypriots. we didn't like the south korean defense

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about what was going on and then um, through the publication of the paragraph papers, i knew daniel ellsberg very, was a good friend and we spoke often but, but look at how this was treated in, in history. i mean, you know, eventually people understood that ellensburg o. s was a hero, honored as such. and but this is none of this consideration is being given even after a great period of time, away from the rack or number of considerations being given. to julia. massage. ly, what's changed is that there are, are in the mainstream media, there are so many giants were linked was other renters and those interest i have a concern to basically work with a government. and there's some cases that controller government, you know, this is a, it's a more virulent form of, of agency capture. in this case. the 1st amendment is captain. we have essentially shipping this country that we never saw before because of the cooperation between the big technology companies and the government. you know, we changed, government are able to reach into the lives of independent journalists like, mandatory, be going aft

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and i knew daniel ellsberg very low as a good friend, and we spoke often. but look at how this was treated in, in history. i mean, you know, eventually people understood that ellensburg o. s was a hero is honored as such. and um, but this is, none of this consideration is being given even after a great period of time away from the rack or number of considerations being given. to julian assange, why which changed is that there are, are in the mainstream media, there are so many giants or a link towards other interest and those interest. i have a concern to basically work with a government. and there's some cases that controller government you know, this is a, it's a more virulent form of agency capture. in this case. the 1st amendment is captains . we have sensory shipping, this country that we never saw before because of the cooperation between the big technology companies and the government. you know, we seems government able to reach into the lives of independent journalists like mantel. you'd be going after his tax returns and raising questions while at

this is something that daniel ellsberg has been warning us about since 1971. the government always lies to us and they lied to us about the policy and then they lied to us about the success of the policy. now here we are, what 53 years later and literally nothing has changed. you know, i little, i want to bring up something else about these documents. if i could go, i was wondering for a long time until he until jack to share was actually caught. you whether this was what's called an authorized leak because every one of these stories as it was appearing in the media, maybe administration look good. for example, we learned from the leaks that, that the government was going to sell missiles to russia. the us intervene and they ended up selling the missiles to ukraine. right. that makes map try sides. yeah. as so that makes the white house look so strong and so influential. the same thing about the a, b is right. we're going to use really and they said the lesbians and the south koreans and the moroccans and the cypriots. we didn't like the south korean defense m

this is something that daniel ellsberg has been warning us about since 1971. the government always lies to us and they lied to us about the policy and then they lied to us about the success of the policy. now here we are. what 53 years later and literally nothing has changed. i mean, you know, i little, i want to bring up something else about these documents. if i could go, i was wondering for a long time until he until jack to share was actually caught you. whether this was what's called an authorized leak, because every one of these stories as it was appearing in the media, media administration, look good. for example, we learned from the leaks that, that the gyptian government was gonna sell missiles to russia. the us intervene and they ended up selling the missiles to ukraine. right? that makes map josh sides. yeah. us. and that makes the white house look so strong and so influential. the same thing about day b is really we're going to use really and they said the lesbians and the south koreans and the moroccans and the cypriots. we didn't like the south k

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