joining me now to discuss and her first interview as the president's domestic policy adviser is neera tandena. let's start -- how is the administration now shifting its strategy especially when it comes to navigating that diminished moral, if you will, in the wake of these decisions? >> well, the president spoke directly to this. he strongly disagreed with those decisions, as he pointed out on thursday. these decisions are weak, affirmative action, other issues, i really without any precedent. these decisions are the ones in which the supreme court itself is refuting decades of precedent, and really going against the majority of americans. and so, he tasked us well ahead of these decisions to prepare, to prepare and ensure that we had a strong response. that is why on thursday, the president outlined his views on how colleges and universities should go forward. and he had specifically tasked the department of education and the department of justice, as well as laid out his own views, corporations should not retreat from diversity. diversity is important to this country. it's a founding princ

to talk about all of this, we're joined by neera tanden, the president's domestic policy adviser.or being back on the news hour. yesterday the judge ruled a key part of bidens asylum policy was unlawful and this came after complaints that the policy was cruel and version of the trump policy. how much does this ruling constrain your ability to deal with the order? -- border? tanden: as you know in the ruling itself, the judge stayed his own order. so it's really important for people to understand that the rules the president has been put in place are operational. and we have seen a large scale decline in border crossings since the implementation of this rule. the rule is working effectively to get better control of the border. and that is part of the argument that we are making. the department of justice has issued a statement saying how confident they are in the process, how confident they are that we will win on appeal. and what's really most important for people to remember is that this rule has really helped stabilize the border and as a central part of ensuring that we have st