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the book of obadiah is about israel's neighbors who were turning away refugees fleeing when israel was under attack. god rebuke them for that. i think there is a lesson there. we need to be a safe haven for those. that's a big one. people need to work. historically, we have been a place that offers refuge to those fleeing persecution. we need to distinguish those from those who would be seeking to do harm. ronald reagan said he wanted us to be a city on a hill. it would be a place where if there had to be walls, the doors were open to anyone. whether that is good the buckle execution, it's a beautiful image in terms of what it looks like. we need to have open doors. >> we've got time for three or four questions. do you want to get us started? i don't have a mic that can go around the room. >> it's easy for us to say it, my parents are from south america. my father came here on education visa. he decided to join the army in fight in vietnam. my question is, why is the process so difficult and convoluted that people can't come here illegally? people have been waiting lists for 10 years.