spring, summer and fall, was up in the woods north, north, north, north, north of ottawa, up the ottawa riverld be in a house that he built himself because he was of a rural background and knew how to do all of that. and, um...therefore, he had a lot of edged tools, which we used to play with as children. edged tools? yeah. sharp—edged tools? yes. you know, and other things, like hammers. things you could do yourself a serious injury with if you weren't careful with them. and your mother was a scientist, as well? she was a dietician. so this would have been the �*30s and �*40s. so i think she was a dietician simply because it was a job you could get in the depression. she wasn't very interested in any of that, frankly. so, this was a really rural upbringing you had, for most of...? rural makes us think of farms. right. we're not talking farms. more remote than that? we're talking wolves. actually, we're more likely to be talking bears, cos you would be more likely to see a bear. did you? oh, yes. and you heard the wolves? yes. what does that do for your creative imagination? well, you just kn