debilyn molineaux? thank you to your service and amen to the leadership we need right now. there is a book out there called -- i forget the name of the book off the top of my head. it is by amanda ripley. most of the media is not news coverage but conflict profiteering. i want to point out there is a distinction between true journalism and conflict profiteering. because those who mask as media are actually fomenting outrage. we need to show what they are. and find a way to mitigate or make them irrelevant in my opinion. host: it looks like the name of the book is "high conflict." let's go to another caller. brian in minnesota, independent line. caller: good morning. first and foremost, i want to give a huge shout out to seize and -- c-span. for like 20 years, you have been giving information to me and a lot of people before that. thank you. the question i have for the guests today, i am wondering what they think about the july 26 during. i am wondering what they think that issue might have to say about