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glenn thrush is here, justice department reporter for the new york times, katie benner, pulitzer prize-winning reporter also the times, and former federal prosecutor glenn kirschner. mr. kershner, i turn to you first. what can you tell us about this proposed protective order because it is citing that threatening its social media post from trump, but it is talking about documents not going after witnesses? >> yeah, the protective order is something that we have seen before and it is actually not unusual what we are turning over discovery to the defense. i wish jack smith had gone farther because i was in court yesterday, albeit in the overflow courtroom watching a live feed, and i saw the judge say, what i am now reading from the transcript, sir i want to remind you that it is a crime to try to influence a juror, threatened a witness, retaliate against anyone, obstruct the administration of justice, and donald trump not 24 hours later does arguably, precisely that in that post. there is something called a show cause order, staff. anytime somebody is on court supervision, either as a pretrial de

glenn thrush -- i love i have the two glenns, take us through the understanding of what will exactly from our understanding trump will fly down from bedminster, will arrive some time before this 4:00 date, and it will be actually very similar to what happened in miami. the question and we haven't really been able to get this answered is whether or not he'll even be subjected to the per fungtatory electronic fingerprinting done in miami. and as we were told in miami they have plenty of pictures of him. the question then becomes what will this magistrate do and what will be asked of this magistrate? interestingly enough in miami the magistrate goodman decided to throw a monkey wrench into this sort of agreement between the defense and prosecution over whether or not trump would be able to communicate with witnesses in the case who still worked in an and around him on this protective detail, in his political operation, on his personal staff. now we have these six unindicted coconspirators of whom we know who they are, and the question is what will the magistrate as they have the right t

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joining me now is chuck rosenberg, former prosecutor and senior fbi official, also glenn thrush correspondent for the new york times who covers the justice department. thank you so much for being with us with the with tonight. you are an important acid here in msnbc in terms of understanding the nuance of the law. my question is, how difficult a position is judge chutkan in right now, and balancing what seems to be flagrant abuses of the position of a defendant in a criminal case and trump's legitimate right to talk about what may be a very put political up and going into presidential contest? >> i think you framed it absolutely right alex. we've never had as a criminal defendant somebody who was also likely to be a major party nominee for president. so judge chutkan has to balance those first amendment rights. his interest in campaigning, is right to speak about the campaign and the promise for office with the needs of criminal trial which include a lot of restrictions on a lot of defendants in a lot of ordinary cases around the country. as you know, there are restrictive rules in this parti

glenn thrush, thanks for starting us off today. everyone else sticks around. >>> paging jack smith. there's new reporting on where one of the alleged architect was on january 6th. he's likely co-conspirator number five, and is likely now an even bigger focus for the department of justice. we'll tell you about that next. >>> plus trump henchmen in georgia looking to change the rules of the game. we'll look at the political realities of that, coming to fruition. later in the show, this week's fourth criminal indictment of the ex-president does not mean -- we'll talk to officer harry dunn that have been taken in efforts to hold up our democracy. "deadline: white house" continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. continues after a quick break. don't go anywhere. if you have heart disease and are on a statin, lowering cholesterol can be hard. and diets and exercise add to the struggle. it can feel never-ending. but today, it's possible to go from struggle to cholesterol success with leqvio. taken with a statin, leqvio is proven to lower bad cholesterol by over 50%. so, if you feel

joining us on this glenn thrush, and all that reporting and former u.s. attorney now a law professor at the university of michigan, barbara mccade and melissa redman is here prosecutor from the fulton county district attorney's office and now a professor at the university georgia school of law. and this is great analyst that you and colleagues did. tith -- just take us through what you set out to do. >> in terms of the two prosecutions, when smith took over in november, last november, he put out a very brief statement and in that brief statement he said essentially that he wanted to move as quickly as possible. at the time, justice department officials told us that was essentially to move ahead as quickly -- sort of outrace the political calendar in 2024. there are also other reasons. and what was very interesting about being in judge chutkan's courtroom on monday, was she laid out a whole host of other reasons to move ahead more quickly with this case than the trump team wanted to do. john lauro, trump's lead attorney in the courtroom, was asked for, as