a few years ago show that harriet tubman, not only fled on foot, but she fled across water and. she fled aboard ships that were operated by men, african-american men were seamen aboard the and they called them blackjacks. and these men were operating schooners, prima traveling, transporting goods from point to the other. and that brings to another point i wanted to mention, and that is the predominance of african-american men in the maritime industry. we know that many african american men were oyster women were fishermen, but they also seamen. there worked aboard these ships, helping to transport goods back and forth or loading them from the on and off the ships at the docks. men such as crispus attucks. but others were actually also pilots as as ships captains. stewart working aboard both schooners and steamships and some of them actually owned their own schooners. you had african-american men who were ferryman because along the eastern seaboard. there were so many rivers and streams and creeks and so forth that ferries were a constant necessity as. people travel back and fort

harriet tubman visited many societies that she chose the church as where she would have her membership which she participated fully. and frederick douglass gained his preaching credentials at the baptist church of massachusetts but it's not coincidental that these people who participate truly in the suffrage movement chose what is known historically as the freedom church and that the ame church which out of bondage social justice agenda i think there needs to be some concentration on that but more particularly for recently i was at a meeting where most of the delegates for the meeting were women and there were three women vying for office and the remaining half a dozen also vying for office. and there were two positions available no women were elected and so also the issue women still not been comfortable voting for the limiter i think that needs to be more fully explored by they work that comes next as for the harriet tubman hoe and national park, we use our ceremony in 2022 amplify women's suffrage, to let our members know that people thought very hard to have the vote and why it was

and of course pages but, rebekah's book, all the work karen has been doing with the harriet tubman sites really a collective conglomeration of women who are really striving to make that holegacy happen. i appreciate your time this evening. i also want to thank nancy tate for organizing this conversation, bringing everyone together and getting uste thorganized. to have this conversation and of course the national archives for hosting it and my friend deborah got for hosting us so we are able to really look back and reflect critically not just patting ourselves on the back. but looking back with a critical eye and figuring out really the best way to move forward and i appreciate that conversation we had this evening. so thank you very much. ♪ if you are enjoying american history to be sent for our newsletter using the qr code on the screen to receive the weekly schedule of upcoming programs like lectures and history, the presidency and more. set up for the american history tv newsletter today at be sure to watch american history tv every saturday or anytime online at c-span.org/history. ♪

as for the harriet tubman home and at the national park, we use our naturalization ceremony to amplify women's suffrage and let them know people fought very hard to have the vote and why it was important for them to participate fully. in previous times, the league of women voters used to be there to give out information to help begin the educational process. i know i'm taking a lot of time but i feel as an african-american woman, i am just so not satisfied in what we did to commemorate the first years and i truly hope that we determining what we want the next 100 years to look like to tell the whole story. last, there was media done on that a year ago today with the former president and all the commissions for their, the proclamation recognizing the hundredth anniversary. but it was hard for me as a woman of color to be there and as a longtime champion of for housing and anything in the affordable housing et cetera. there is the dog whistle if people of color move to your suburbs it's white america and the things that were said by the highest elected officials it seems to undo a lot of

of course pages book, rebekah's book all the work karen has been doing with the harriet tubman sites, this is really a collective conglomeration of women who are really striving to make that legacy happen. i appreciate your time this evening. i also want to thank nancy tate for organizing this conversation pulling everybody together and getting this organized. getting us on the stage to have this conversation and of course the national archives for hosting it and my friend for hosting us so we are able to relate look back and reflect critically not just patting ourselves on the back. but looking back with a critical eye and figure out the best

it is certainly true that they are not known like douglas or taubman -- frederick douglass, harriet tubman. i think the reason is complicated. they have so many pieces to it. it is -- it doesn't simply end with achieving the emancipation when it reaches the north. it is not one that is eating for us to embrace. >> it has some of the endings. that is probably what makes it so exciting and my point of view. hoxie mentioned frederick douglass. who are some of the other important characters in your narrative? >> there are a lot of people across the board from abolitionist lecturers, black activists who come in and out of the story. i have already partner who i worked with. -- i have a writing partner that i worked with. she said it is like in the ordinary movie, you would have -- in the mainstream, hollywood movie you would have seen over the last number of years, you would have henry daniel webster. where more recently, frederick douglass at the center of the story. now, these characters get walk on roles. that is how i like to see them. some of them come in and out, they are great lecturers.

was a little bit of joy in that. >> you did a great piece interviewing the ancestors including harriet tubmane water with the 16-year-old heroic boy who came to the rescue. i feel like the other piece of this has been the other expression of creativity. black twitter was in its finest hour and on the platform whether tiktok or instagram. the memes, michael. these are historic and so is the folding chair. >> yeah. i really think -- we don't have an august holiday, so how abouting they, and the brawl in alabama and this should be black people's labor day and we should gather and have a freak nick on the shore in montgomery and like -- i lived most of my adult life near montgomery or, you know, i went to college in auburn and lived in birmingham, so i think this should be our new june teepth. we should have augustteenth in montgomery. >> you spell your name different from mine, but we might be cousins since you're a reid. >> can we do it? >> i'll put it in the legislature and see if we can get that done. >> come on, cousin reid, let's do that. we'll work on the last name's spelling, but we're co

harriet tubman, one woman. rosa parks, one woman. shirley chisholm, one woman. dr.ach launched a movement. each forever changed the way we see our world. m so today we are rewriting the history we want to share with our future generation. we are replacing a remnant of hatred and division with assemble of hope and inspiration. one woman. because today, we place mary mcleod bethune in statuary hall, in her rightful place among our nation's giants of history. i cannot think of anyone more than fitting to occupy this space of grandeur. congratulations, speaker pelosi, representative castor, nancy lohman, and too the state of florida. you made the right choice. one woman. as an educator i always send many similarities between dr. mary mcleod bethune m and myself, and i have tried my best to embody her spirit, her stamina, and her perseverance. our shared love of children, our love of education, and our shared responsibility of lifting up the next generation, no matter the roadblocks. she fostered young black girls, and i fostered young black boys. i love this woman. that

harriet tubman, one woman, rosa parks, one woman, it should -- charlie chisholm, one woman. dr.mcleod bethune, one woman. each launched a movement and forever changed the way we see our world. so, today, we are rewriting the history we want to share with our future generations. we are replacing a remnant of hatred and division with a symbol of hope and inspiration. one woman. because, today, we place very cloud bethune -- mary mcleod bethune in statuary hall among the giants of history. i can't think of anyone more fitting to occupy this space. congratulations. speaker pelosi, representative pastor, nancy loman, nilda comas , and, to the state of florida, you made the right choice. one woman. as an educator, i always found many similarities between dr. mary mcleod bethune and myself. and i have tried my best to embody her spirit, her stamina, and her perseverance. our shared love of children, our love of education, and our shared responsibility of lifting up the next generation. no matter the roadblocks. she fast -- fostered young black girls and i fostered young black boys. i l

harriet tubman one woman come -- chisholm one woman dr. mary mcleod bethune one women.future generations. we are replacing a remnant of hatred and division with the symbol of hope and inspiration, one woman. because today we have created the mary mcleod bethune call. i can't think of anyone more befitting to occupy this space of grandeur. congratulations. speaker pelosi representative cass tour, nancy lohman into the state of florida you made the right choice. one woman. as an educator i've always found many similarities between dr. mary mcleod bethune and myself and i have tried my best to embody her spirit, her stamina and her perseverance. our shared love of children, our shared responsibility of lifting up the next generation. no matter the roadblocks. i fostered young black boys and she fostered young black girls but i love in and that's why in 2004 i was honored to serve as an honorary cochair of the unveiling of the statue of mary mcleod bethune on the capitol of the university. what happened on that historic day was an out of body experience for me and full of d

harriet tubman, and one woman, -- surely chisholm, one, dr. mary mcleod the phone, one woman.e our world, so today we are rewriting the history that we want to share with our future generations, we are replacing a remnant of hate and division with a symbol of hope and inspiration. one woman. because today, replace mary mcleod within in stature -- in her rightful place among our nations giants of history. i cannot think of anyone more befitting to occupy this space of grandeur. congratulations, speaker pelosi, -- nancy lowman, -- and this state of florida, he made the right choice. one woman, as an educator, i always found many similarities between dr. mary mcleod the phone and myself. and i have tried my best to embody her spirit, her stamina, and her perseverance. our shared love of children, our love education. and our shared responsibility of lifting up the next generation. no matter the roadblocks. she -- and i fostered young black boys. -- i love this woman. that is why in 2004, i was so ecstatic and honored to serve as an honorary co-chair of the fund raising and unveili

harriet tubman and 1848 was still enslaved. you didn't have women on the circuit the way you end up seeing ellen kraft. the crafts on top of joining this lecture circuit phenomenon were adding something very new. susan: and it also provided income for them because people pay to attend these? ilyon woo: they do not normally charge ticket sales but they did have a collection basket that went around. susan: so they were living a somewhat comfortable life and then everything changed with the compromise of 1850 and specifically its provision about the new fugitive slave law. how did that change the circumstance for the crafts? ilyon woo: in every possible way. this was a devastating law it meant that the slavers were angry and determined that the north would participate actively in the return of fugitives and be good on their word. what this did was it enabled and slavers like ira taylor to either go them self send proxies. these proxies upon identifying enslaved people or people they are claiming to be enslaved people, like the cra

and i answered he came over and introducedhi himsf and i knewam his name he had walked from harriet tubman'sirthplace to the canadian border. he into introduced himself ken johnson i said can, we had communicated but had not met him in person. i said why did you asked that question he said it wanted to see your response. [laughter] 'part of what his point was, if you are predisposed to doing something like this and feel that you are good at it that's a different matter. on the other hand we have all enseen the atrocious things that have happened in the last few weeks. that level of insane if you see the world in a way you feel fear for a person looking through your door at them and you shoot as a result ofnt that that's lie a mental o illness and that is t there. one thing i did not do by the way we take a walk like this you notice the people the most intense on a multiple or no trespassing signs generally live in houses you would never want to go onto their y property. [laughter] they've got like five cars there's dogs at the end of chains. like i am not going to go on your property. [laugh

laughter ] next thing you know, that jumbotron guy is gonna be hired by the cubs and be like, "harriet tubmanhter ] then dolly parton released a fun line of products for pets, and i was like, "what? that's great." but then i found out it included wigs for dogs and i was like, "what? that's dumb. but then i saw it. and i was like, "what? [ laughter ] "you doggies look good." is your name jolene? 'cause i'm begging you, please don't take my man, cute-ass dog. [ laughter ] so, then everyone was talking about "quiet quitting. and i was like, "what is that? then i found out "quiet quitting" is doing the bare minimum at your job while looking for a new one. and i was like, "what? you cowards. don't quit quietly, quit loud. i'll show you how i quit "seth, i quit! >> seth: no, you don't >> yeah, i don't, but only because i love you so bad. >> seth: aww >> shut up [ laughter ] so, then i read that a man had his tesla car keys implanted in his hand look at this ♪ >> and i was like, "what a lazy bastard you sloppy bum you can't keep your car keys in your dang pocket now, i'm scared to ask this, but wher

answere, he came over and introduced himself and i knew his name because he actually last you walk harriet tubmansthplace to thehe canadian border, and he introduced himself ken johnston i said oh, my god, we have communicated i had not met him in person. i stayed why did you asked me that question? he said i just wanted to see a response. but part of what his point was is if you are predisposed to doing something like this and feel that you're good at it, that's a different matter. on the other hand, we've all seen the atrocious things that have happened in the last few weeks, and that level of just like insane, if you see the road in a way that you fear, feel fear for a person looking through your door at them and you just shoot as a result f that, that's like a mental illness, right? and that is out there. the one thing i didn't do by the way, you take a walk like this you noticed that the people who are the most intent on multiple no trespassing signs generally live in houses you would never want to go on the property, like or they've got like five cars and their dogs at the the end o, like i'

and this book was a finalist for the 2020 george washington prize and the 2020 harriet tubman prize. dr. bell is a trustee of the maryland center for history and culture and a fellow of the royal historical society. it is a delight to have him back with us for another program, and so without further delay, please welcome dr. richard bell. welcome, rich. guest: thank you, mary. i hope you can hear me and see me okay. i'm going to go ahead and share my screen now. i might just take a couple of seconds to get ready. let's get can cracking. when thomas jefferson met thomas paine in paris in 1787, he begged him to sit -- [inaudible] jefferson collected portraits of celebrated men, and in 1787 there were few men as celebrated as thomas paine. he wrote "common sense," the 46-page pamphlet that catalyzed the independence movement and overthrew the british monarchies and the colonies. paine agreed to be painted, and jefferson hung the portrait in quite a place, on the walls of monticello, his house in virginia. that was 1787. now fast forward 40 years to 1828. thomas jefferson is dead. his fa

over and introduced himself and i knew his name because he had actually last year walked from harriet tubman'sbirthplace to the canadian border and he introduced himself, ken johnston. and i said, oh my god, we have communicated. i hadn't met him in person. i said, why did you ask me that question? he said, i just wanted see your response. but part of what his point is, if you're predisposed opposed to doing something like this and and feel that you're good at it, that's a different i mean, on the other hand, you know, we've all seen the atrocious things that have happened in the last few weeks where and that level of just like insane. if you see the world in a way, you fear or feel fear for a person looking through your door them and you just shoot as a result of that. that's like a mental illness, right? and that is out there. and the one thing i didn't do, by the way when you take a walk like this you notice that the people that are the most intent on multiple no trespassing signs generally live houses that you would never want to go onto their property like you know you have got like five

abolitionists like the baddest women to have walked -- woman to have walked to the streets of maryland, harriet tubman. understanding nobody could truly be free unless we are all free. they stood on the side of right and were central in the fight to unshackle the enslaved. in fact, throughout history, in progress and setbacks, women demanded equality for themselves and for others. pushing for those fundamental rights to apply to everyone. women like ida b wells stood in the face of violence and death threats so others could experience a free life. women were jailed for protesting outside the white house, sacrificing their freedom so that others could enjoy liberty. many stared down hell and didn't back down so future generations of women could embrace the pursuit of happyness. and on august 26, 1920, when the official proclamation was assigned would finally give women a voice, there was a shout of celebration of those who fought and struggled hundreds of years before to make it happen. and it also signaled a resolve to fight for the next century. because discrimination does not die easily. there was n

we stand here on the shoulders of rosa parks, rbg, harriet tubman, caretta scott king, and so many morec freedom is where dr. king left off, and economic freedom is where we will pick up. yes, we will pick up. because freedom, as we know, is not free. there is a price we all have to pay and such a great sacrifice. our ancestors died for us to have the possibility of freedom. we are economically fragile in this country. even more fragile perhaps then we were 60 years ago. let me tell you how this lawsuit affects each and every one of us. ed bloom and his deep pocketed supporters are attacking you. if you are black, if you are brown, if you are a woman, if you are jewish, lgbtq+, disabled , if you have ever been disenfranchised or marginalized in this country, he is coming after you. let me tell you why. it's because of our identity. our rich identities and how the world sees us. he is attacking our stories. our very rich stories. he is attacking our lived experience. who is he to tell us who we are? i serve an awesome god. when i tell you that ed bloom will not prevail, he will not disma