the chair of the world's top body on the science — the intergovernmental panel on climate change — isus in the studio. why afghan migrants trying to find homes in this country find themselves caught between a rock and a hard place. we're joined by an afghan refugee facing homelessness in southend and the chair of the local government association. things have changed. and as disney phases out dvds in australia, are physical media doomed as people switch to streaming, or do vinyl records show us the dangers of writing them off? good evening. we hear the jargon of climate change almost daily now, from net zero to carbon neutral. it makes many people anxious, mobilises others politically and of course there are many who reject the scientists�* models. at times, what ought to be a global consensus gets subsumed in national differences and culture wars. so at what point does the rhetoric of groups like extinction rebellion, or suggestions that the world has already entered a climate emergency doom spiral exacerbate these differences rather than spurring action? we'll discuss that in a momen

earlier i spoke with robert watts, who is a former chair of the intergovernmental panel on climate change. and i asked him if the government in hawaii should have been able to anticipate these fires. i think countries all around the world which have got large force. it systems has to, i insisted pike far as far as in the future. um with you and juice climate change. we're going to say more, it street type, which is we're going to say more drives the perfect conditions. so as far as size light, this votes, let's get more into the climate change aspect of it. of course the forest fires. wildfires are nothing unusual. they do happen whether this climate change or not, but you're emphasized for us just how does climate change impact forest fires like what we've seen now in mount we as well, what we're saying is that sense, which is around the world, the increasing juicy schuman activity. but also is not just the average temperature . we see more of these very st. temperatures. we also see changes in precipitation passes, where it says floods in some air is a drive. so now this is what we say

the british professor who has taken over as the new intergovernmental panel on climate change, he saids first interview that we need a chest transition -- just transition. do you think we have a just transition at the moment? >> definitely not. a just transition means you bring everybody on board, not just in the u.k. but around the world, and there is a clear divide between the rich countries and poor countries. in the u.k., you have high income and low income households. we saw last year when russia invaded ukraine, and how gas prices skyrocketed across the european continent. oil prices also increased. there was a major outcry in europe and across the u.k. where people were terrorized by the increase in energy poverty. if you look at the average person in many parts of the world, they were concerned about high energy bills, and th is a concern today. we can talk about this, as well. it is rich people buying lithium,ho will use the lithium and metals from the poor countries. there is a dominant view in the poor countries that this is far from a just transition. christian: let's start

so, we are making the future as ipcc that i will throw out is the intergovernmental panel on climatee change. the world's top scientist come together to talk about where we are, where we need to be, how to get there. you know, they tell us people don't think in the big framework. we are shaping what the earth looks like from thousands of years. it's incredible responsibility and requires all of us to be heroic. we believe that we all have that capacity for heroism. most of us have a role to play in the movement and you know, finding that role whether it's joining something, donating, organizing, educating, keeping hopes alive is the work we are all here to do and matters more than anything. >> okay. [ applause ] >> first question. >> yeah, i wanted to ask about the role of fear in changing the story. i'm noticing that hollywood story aboutry the future and according to climate change, you know,ok don't look up. that film that just came out about the asteroid about to hit. a new show on apple tv extrapolations that tookhe place in 1927. things look really grim. i was thinking back to w

response to that question, you know, don't take it from, from me as a lawyer, take it from the intergovernmental panel on climate change, the world's pre eminent climate authority that says quite clearly in its way, this reports that fossil fuels are unequivocal either the primary cause of global warming. if you look just at the past decade, i think it's something like plus or minus 86 percent of emissions. carbon dioxide emissions have come from the fossil fuel and industry sector. um, so that, that is on an undeniable and unequivocal at this point. what i do when i come back to is just to say that these cases that are going on across the united states are really significant. they do involve a consumer fraud and deception claims around the pivot that companies. fossil fuel companies have made from the past denial of their contribution to climate change to a rebranding of themselves as part of the solution. and, and deceptive practices to call fossil gas clean or green, or to promote new tech. new fix is right. she's a magical solution, but somehow make it seem like we can continue using oil and gas i

so we are making the future i will throw out again as the intergovernmental panel on climate change the world's top scientists in the fields come together to talk about where we are, where we need to be, how to get there. so i don't think people think in these big frameworks enough we are shaping with the earth will look like for the thousands of years to come. we, in this decade. it is an incredible responsibility. it requires all of us to be heroic. i think we deeply believe it's not too late that we will have that capacity for heroism. that most of us have a role to play in the movements. and finding that role whether it's joining someone donating, organizing, educating, keeping hope alive. it's the work we are all here to it matters more than anything. [applause] the first question. >> i wanted to ask about the role of fear in changing the story. i am noticing the hollywood story about the future. according to climate change don't look up that just came out with the asteroid about to hit. there's a new show on apple tv extrapolation takes place in 2037. and things look really grim.

we asked the people we most wanted to be in this book, and everybody said yes, we have to intergovernmental panel on climate change, top scientist, we've got other geographers and other scientists. we have leaders in the climate movement, we have people from frontline communities, we have visionaries like adrian marie brown, our youngest contributor, i think, was 26 when she wrote for us. our goal this was 80. row she joan in halifax, the buddhist leader, it's an international community. people -- wonderful to put together, wonderful to put out into the world. so -- and this is the first event for, so thank you. [applause] >> hi. i'm struck by yesterday's climate action being in the midst of a 70 mile an hour wind storm and, what a reminder, that nature is a priority, and pushing the whole pipelines and destroying old growth forests is really not the way to go. >> yesterday's protests was really across the nation, more than 100 protests about the banks that are financing old growth extraction. the big four. they are playing a huge role in the destruction of the planet, and the climate. and it was

intergovernmental panel on climate change top scientists. we've got other geographers and other scientists. we have leaders in the climate movement, have people from frontline communities, have visionaries like adrian brown, our youngest contributor, i think was 26 when she wrote for us. our oldest, 80 roshi, joan halifax, the buddhist leader, and you know, it's an international community of voices. it was wonderful to put together, wonderful to put out into the world. so and this is actually the first event for it. so thank yay. i am i'm struck yesterday's climate action being in the midst of a 70 mile an hour wind and a storm and what a reminder that is a priority. and that pushing the whole pipeline lines and destroying old growth forests is really not the way to go. although yesterday's protest was really across the nation with more than 100 demonstrations about banks that are financing fossil fuel extraction, the big four are chase, wells fargo, citi and and b of a and you know, they are playing a huge in the destruction of the planet a

the united nations intergovernmental panel on climate change, the ipcc.and i does not attribute the area's burned by wildfires to climate change. whilst wildfires are slightly up in the americas , they are actually down in the rest of the world. and even so, last year, american fires burned less than one fifth of the average burn . back in the 1930. average burn. back in the 1930. well, look , lo and behold, the well, look, lo and behold, the greek government has officially now blamed the recent wildfires on arson or negligence . none of on arson or negligence. none of this is to say that climate change isn't a very real and serious problem. and there are things that human beings can do to help deter its damaging effects on the planet. but the point is, my point is really that we have to treat the issue seriously and not hysterically. being hysterical and propagandistic will do more harm than good to the cause of environmentalism because the pubuc environmentalism because the public will find out that they are sometimes being lied to . are sometimes being