you are on with kimberly whele. caller: i will make mine short. trump will be our next president in 2024. the democrats are too crooked. they should go arrest joe biden and hunter biden this morning. donald trump will be our president. mark that down. host: what about how the special counsel asked americans to read this indictment? it is a 45 and paid -- a 45 page indictment. it's not too long. many of them are longer. have you read it? caller: i have read most of it, not all of it. it's just to mess with the 2024 election. why don't they go to hunter biden and the rest of the democrats? he said hey, by burner phones. it's a joke. to sit here and tell us that it's a peaceful transfer of power? we didn't have one. sorry, it went out the window. the constitution went out the window when they were impeached twice with no crimes or misdemeanors. he won the election. the 17 bellwether counties, he was the winner. sen. merkley: -- guest: well there is a lot there. people are frustrated over what other presidents have done. he was not convicted by the se

you are on with kimberly whele. caller: i will make mine short. trump will be our next president in 2024. the democrats are too crooked. they should go arrest joe biden and hunter biden this morning. donald trump will be our president. mark that down. host: what about how the special counsel asked americans to read this indictment? it is a 45 and paid -- a 45 page indictment. it's not too long. many of them are longer. have you read it? caller: i have read most of it, not all of it. it's just to mess with the 2024 election. why don't they go to hunter biden and the rest of the democrats? the american people will see this will make the republicans stronger, make trump stronger, make the republican party stronger. i think we will get some independents and democrats. host: kimberly, anything you want to pick up on you? -- pick up on? guest: i think wayne is right in terms of the numbers. the numbers for donald trump are very, very strong. what i tell my students or others that are thinking about this, part of the disconnect that happened -- i've been

we are joined now by kimberly whele, a legal contributor for abc news, and a law professor. you have gone through this 45 page indictment now. what is your top line take away so far? guest:

you are on with kimberly whele. caller: i will make mine short.mp will be our next president in 2024. the democrats are too crooked. they should go arrest joe biden and hunter biden this morning. donald trump will be our president. mark that down. host: what about how the special counsel asked americans to read this indictment? it is a 45 and paid -- a 45 page indictment. it's not too long. many of them are longer. have you read it? caller: i have read most of it, not all of it. it's just to mess with the 2024 election. why don't they go to hunter biden and the rest of the democrats? the american people will see this will make the republicans stronger, make trump stronger, make the republican party stronger. i think we will get some independents and democrats. host: kimberly, anything you want to pick up on you? -- pick up on? guest: i think wayne is right in terms of the numbers. the numbers for donald trump are very, very strong. what i tell my students or others that are thinking about this, part of the disconnect that happened -- i've been in

host: we are joined now by kimberly whele, a legal contributor for abc