also ron desantis and entrepreneur ozempic teen -- vivek ramaswami, vivek ramaswami is searching in the polls. you might have noticed that the debate last night he had a target on his back. he also attacked all of his opponents. >> i'm the only person on stage who isn't bought and paid for. the climate change agenda is a hoax. the climate change agenda is a hoax. we have to declare. >> i had enough already tonight of a guy who sounds like chat gpt standing up here. >> the fund is real, you want to -- >> i want to address each of those. >> there you have it. >> you have no foreign policy experience that it shows. >> the experience you know. >> these are the fireworks, they covered substantive issues as well as the economy, crime, education. they contrasted their plans for border security with president biden. desantis says he won't send us troops into mexico. >> would you support that kind of american military? >> yes and i will do it on day one. the cartels are killing tens of thousands of our fellow citizens. >> the candidates differed on whether they support donald trump as the nomine

vivek ramaswamy obviously is just that. desantis as you talked about has taken action as far as district attorneys as a president. you only have so much power. but at least, at least you can set the tone and say, this is unacceptable. we need to shook attorneys that enforce the law and if you're not going to do that, i'm going to make sure i make it or create enough pressure that you are not going to be there anymore. so i think desantis, vivek ramaswamy, they have the two best answers on that. and going forward, they should hammer home this particular points because it is not just republicans that care about this issue. it is those in major cities that don't feel safe anymore that may vote democratic who may think of voting republican based on the fact that they think that at least somebody in the white house potentially somebody who is elected has their back, trace. >> trace: and the naacp in oakland is a prime example of that. they are fed up of crime. they have made it known publicly. they have been fed up with crime an

number two vivek ramaswamy, mike pence, nikki haley, chris christie, tim scott, hutchinson and burgumre you shocked when you saw ramaswamy is number two in polling? >> brian: surprised, but what struck me, they will have a big unveiling on the next show is bill hemmer and dana. i am used to the huge stage. it looks tighter. it is not hard to lean over. rand paul was basically off the stage at the end, it will not be a big deal where you are located. he wants the attention. >> ainsley: hutchinson and burgum won't be on the far, far side. >> brian: exactly, placement won't be a problem. if they show up and don't have their moment, it is not because of location. president biden on vacation in lake tahoe, with his son arriving in nevada yesterday. >> steve: republicans are demanding doj hand over information on the handles of the probe. >> ainsley: lucas tomlinson is live. >> lucas: president biden 18 million spread in lake tahoe, some say living like fema officials. owned by billionaire climate activist. biden talked about a kitchen fire to empathize with those who lost everything. >> it

the biggest part target will be in ron desantis at back and it seems like everybody would after vivek ramaswamy in the short time ago seswamd vivek and he said thesa following to you, watch. the reality is everybody on the stage had been on the debate stage before. this my first time in a th , and i am ebateat ss my thrilled with how it came out. we over exceeded my expec expectations. frankly even trump as an outsider last time around is secular it was better than hisoh first. what about you, sean, are you surprised with the way the debate came out, when it kind o looks a lot on vivek ramaswamye hen it. >> no, i'm not surprised. looking he's got such a compelling life story. and, it would grab anybody's attention. but also wou, he came from a fa that did not have means and become a multibillionaire a ver successful entrepreneur. he is a good communicator. he's got a great smile. he is a likable demeanor about his e dem and so i'm not surpri all. i think on some of the issues k over time when there is more scrutiny he might have more difficulty persuading some conservatives. however, in terms o

vivek ramaswamy was clear.ers want that on the stage. >> jesse: right now we are hearing that donald trump is en route to the airport after getting booked. we expect him to stay a few things to media there. we will bring that to you live. ned, what did you think? donald trump was not there but was? did you see anybody rising to that level? >> no. i lowered by expectations last night. i hoped for maybe a cage fight between the political dwarfs. what i got was bickering, food fight at the kids table at thanksgiving. not sure what they are auditioning. not for 2024 and not for vice-president. >> jesse: you don't think trump is considering any of those people for vice-president or cabinet? >> not for cabinet. i would be hard pressed for him to pick anybody for the cabinet. nikki haley sound liked she was running for president of ukraine. desantis i wanted to send out a missing person alert for him. he had to look around the stage when asked if would you support trump and he halfheartedly raised his hand. 2023 calle

vivek ramaswamy will join us this afternoon.hitting you in the wallet and new charges against alec baldwin being considered. i'm john roberts, join jacqui heinrich and me for "america reports." ♪ >> dagen: covid infections may be ticking up slightly this summer, but numbers remain low compared to the height of the pandemic. yet the media seems too ready to go back to the way things were in 2020. seeing headlines like these, covid-19 is heating up all around should we be wearing masks again? cbs news, best n-95 face mask deals available now. the liberal networks are working hard to push the mask narrative. >> a mask can be your best friend, keep it private in our pocket, coat, backpack, time to bring them out again as the school season starts. we don't want kids missing school for things we should have prevented. >> wear mask during crowded areas. >> what about home, walking on the street? >> certainly at home, it works, if you want to reduce household transmission. i wouldn't wear a mask walking your dog, just be distant from ot

they're not going leave trump to go vivek ramaswamy but like him because he's different, he's not a politicianon't want ramaswamy, they hope to come up with trump alternative by january. that's the other big takeaway, the split over ramaswamy is like the split over trump in the republican party. so you're saying, you have all the candidates on stage, will one emerge? there's no evidence yet, a win for trump. betsy sarcon was leaning desantis, she loved governor haley. she's not there yet, she's thinking can she great trump, can she be viable? another suburban mom, they don't each other, she was like eh on desantis, there's a lot of negative around him. she watched the first answer when he said america's in decline, now she's leaning desantis' way. that's what we're trying to figure out in the four months plus to the iowa caucuses, what sways people back and forth and where do they land, and the suburbs are growing so fast around des moines. there is a mathematical potential for somebody, but it has to be one somebody. now it's not. >> that's really the key. first of all i just think going back

does that diminish them by goinñ afterú.ía vivek ramaswamy? country. they pointed that out last night that vivek doesn't have experience in not just politics, but in leadership and understanding the issues. he demonstrated he didn't understand the issues. to your point,s it was fact checked in realtimes, which is one of the biggest complaints about donald trump is it's hard to even keep up with how many lies he spewed. last night it was hard to keep up withd)s those with vitt vek. him being the youngest, it was shocking that he said climate change is a hoax, which that is such an issue for younger voters. his appeal to them fell flat. >> we're watching it happen in realtime. we're seeing these climate disasters. we have all of the scientific evidence that9u this is manmade and this is an issue that we're perpetuating. it's not the early ]d2000s wher some people don't believe. it feels so out of left field to even be having this debate is cloi mat change made or not. >>> live pictures of the fulton county jail. former president trump will turn h

: you heard the sound bite and chris christie the guy likes to throw punches in his first was vivek ramaswamyt comparing himself to barack obama that was one issue the chat gpt that hit ramaswamy. did any of that really lands? my bigger question is there something in the internal polls and that we are not seen that the candidates on the stage are telling them that vivek ramaswamy is a bigger threat than we realize to them? >> probably in the polls, they have 0 name ideas six-month second place in the national polls third placed, if you wanted over the attacks on the k came from, listen to the crowd they were booing him and many hostile toward the attack, i think this also puts a different spotlight on vivek. he is to talk about his fans on ukraine and these are things that people may not have seen before but stayed on the very front stage and now it now he's going to have to talk about it but they like the way he talks and related we talked about economy and you talk about bidenomics nobody knows what bidenomics is because they don't like joe biden so they don't like bidenomics they know it's

vivek ramaswamy, people are googling him.s the most google candidate because people want to learn more about him. he walked out on stage. he looks like he is having fun he wants to be there. he's young and fresh. he walks out on stage. what's up? what's up? he just was happy. >> brian is going to be talking to governor ron desantis very shortly. if you missed the debate for some reason, we have been able to put together a montage of the best sound bites. the first republican debate is in the books with candidates clashing over the top issues facing all of us here in the u usa. >> vivek ramaswamy, you can see him energetic walking out. a major target. he didn't shy away from hitting back. >> alexis mack adams is live in milwaukee, 20 minutes from me in the humidity. i give you great credit for persevering. a lot of times, this type of conditions. you are here to report. >> that's right. i am doing everything i can to get my hair from looking even worse. it is humid and hot. the story still is politics right here in milwaukee a

i think vivek ramaswamy channelled that song.h men, the mitch mcconnells of the world are fleecing us. >> was it disappointing to you that martha asked this question directly to desantis. what do you think the song means? it was this big opening and he didn't really take it. >> ron desantis, all i can hear is charlie brown's schoolteacher. nobody laid a glove on desantis. he came in expecting everybody to pile on him. i don't know, but they were trying to stop vivek. >> if they are at the same level, you have desantis going in one direction and vivek's polling going the opposite direction. thank you all. >>> next, our republican candidate mike pence is going to join us live. >>> russia says the mercenary chief who led a mutiny against vice president vice president was killed in this plane crash. what presidedent biden had to s about thatat. then adjusts to help reduce it. for a limited time, save up to $700 on select tempur-pedic adjustable mattress sets. being middle class right now, it's tough making ends meet for sure. republi

i think it's interesting that vivek ramaswamy is that center seat? nobody even knew who he was. there he is number two. also it is fascinating how they are positioning themselves in different ways. tim scott the optimist and ron desantis saying still it is a two-person race and i am the main guy. what is the most interesting strategy that could pay off the most? >> a couple of things. he could not be more relaxed or prepared. he is built for this. doing this so often, so much and i believe him. number two is that vivek ramaswamy has come out with policy statements that has been wacky he had to clarify about 9/11 and who was on the planes. i have question about the january 6 crowd. and then to give up taiwan 2028. so with foreign policy where nikki haley could score some points. also bringing up that tim scott joined me on the radio yesterday and could not be more relaxed. what would be great for him if they take a shot but have you met him? does anybody want to take a shot at tim scott? he is one of the nicest people you will ever meet, a great perso

vivek ramaswamy doing burpees prepping for the debate. >> john: oh, to be 38 again. have that sort of energy and stamina. you know what? if he can put that in a bottle, he would be richer than he is now. >> sandra: unbelievable. great to be with you. never miss us. i'm sandra smith. >> john: i'm john roberts. "the story" starts right now with martha in milwaukee. >> martha: hi, everybody. live in milwaukee, wisconsin on the site of the big debate. it's an important night for these candidates. they're working hard to get ready. it's a huge night for some of them. right now bret and i are looking huge on the side of fiserv forum. that is true. we're very big outside of that building. right here behind me, fiserv forum. the game is on, folks! there's going to be eight candidates that will be taking the stage in milwaukee. this is where they will be positioned. we're going -- not we're going to reveal that yet. here's where they'll be standing on the stage. that is kind of interesting to see who your neighbors will be up there. my next guests. so according to polling --

but, it is notable that since 2022 to vivek ramaswamy seems to disagree with 2023 vivek ramaswamy. last year, he mocked trump's election lies. he called his arguments week and he said reasonable republicans do not believe that the election was stolen. on the question of the vice president specifically, he wrote,uote, mike pence the man i have great respect for decided it was his constitutional duty to resist the presidents attempts to get him to unilaterally overturn the results of the election. he goes on to write, our institutions did hold in the end. but, they should not have been tested. in the meantime, that's not the only thing that vivek ramaswamy is getting attention for. he also has gotten quite a bit of backlash after calling a black democratic congresswoman a modern grand wizard of the modern at a stop in iowa on friday. >> ayanna pressley, she's in the congress today, she's member of the squad. her words not mine. we do not want any more black faces that do not want to be a block voice. we don't want any more brown faces that don't want to be a brown voice. literally wo

i think so will vivek ramaswamy. of these other candidates are signaling that he might be a proxy for trump in some ways, but this will be about which among them is going to be automobile to stand out. i do think desantis has a lot to prove tonight. he has to show that he can be quick on his feet, that he can take it when everybody is coming at him. he's not going to get a chance to show he can take on trump. he has to, at the very least, be able to take on most of the rest of the people on that stage and make a compelling argument for his candidacy, so a lot is riding on it desantis, but it helps ron desantis that he has s some company because other candidates have signalled they are going to go after both of them. it's very important for some of the other candidates to start to pull on some of the votes they have been getting in these early states and at a national level. >> kaitlan collins, you recently had a very robust interview with vivek ramaswamy. what is your expectation to tonight? >> i think what you are g

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vivek ramaswamy is clearly the _ of it? vivek ramaswamy is clearly the most _ of it?t outspoken on the issue of climate change, and saying what america needs to do is burn more coal, produce more nuclear, drill more, very much not an environmental policy, green policy that he was putting out there. again, it's interesting looking at those focus groups of how that we want down, it doesn't go down particularly well. those instant reaction focus groups didn't like what they heard there. and when you look at young voters in america in particular, actually action on climate change is something they say is important to them. so, it would be hard to see how that went down with young voters. all of the candidates are going to take more of a hawkish position when it comes to climate change than the democratic party is, for example. there was less disagreement on climate change among this group than on some of the other issues they raised, on issues like abortion, on some issues around spending, and particularly on issues around ukraine. matt, your view on that? it's issue that

during those fiery exchanges most of the candidates on the stage did talk about vivek ramaswamy sayingdoesn't have really any experience out there in the political world. that's where ramaswamy prides himself on, listen. >> now is not the time for on the job training. we don't need to bring in a rookie. the last person in one of these debates, bret, what's a skinny guy with an odd last name doing up here was barack obama. and i'm afraid we are dealing with the same type of amateur standing on the stage tonight. >> give me a hug just like you did to obama. ukraine is not a priority for the united states of america. >> the problem that vivek doesn't understand is he wants to hand ukraine to russia. he wants to let china eat taiwan. he wants to make america less safe. you have no foreign policy experience, and it shows. >> well, vivek was slammed, as you guys heard there he also got so much time responding on stage because every time his name was mentioned he got to speak yet again. the candidates talked about economy, hot topic for voters who say they are paying more for everything. >> m

my big winners were vivek ramaswami and nikki haley. more people on your side. vivek ramaswami pooled more far right republicans, some people from donald trump as well. nikki haley appealed to moderates. we saw independents graded her throughout the night, she had a standout performance and needed to have it. if she didn't she would be nowhere. i think we will see a bump in nikki haley. the big loser last night, hate to say this, i hate to say this because it is like, we love you, tim scott but where were you. what people said when they did hear from him last night, seemed he was recycling old material, they want to tear fresh ideas from him and get to know him better. hopefully he can show up and let us know him better next time. he did not have a standout performance last night. >> mark tepper. >> haley, vivek ramaswami, and desantis, added trump as well. if you look at the betting odds, donald trump and nikki haley gained the most at the expense of chris christie and tim scott. when you look at losers i would go with mike pence, chri

haley clobbered vivek ramaswami on foreign policy. mike pence dignified and occasionally aggressive. berman best line of the night. he joked about breaking a leg on the debate stage. my opinion it was a good debate about policy, large audience made for some real excitement, probably good that trump was not there. also on the show today, russia in disarray. vladimir putin likely behind the death of prigozhin . the russian economy sinking, it's arming ukraine not doing well, xi xinping can't be happy, china, a superpower in trouble. new evidence in the hunter biden investigation, he flew with his father, then vice president to at least 13 countries, one of those countries was serbia where hunter pulled off one of his deals. big day thursday, august 24, 2023, "varney and company" about to begin. ♪ stuart: the song is called the big show. >> that would be the varney show. stuart: left of that wide open. straight last night's debate, 8 republican candidate took the stage, thousands in the audience, what a show it was. grady trimble is in m

will it be the break-out moment for somebody like vivek ramaswamy, who doubled his number over june? vivek is the only republican to beat joe biden with independents and showed that graphic about an hour ago. he is ahead with independents 8 points and when asked of the trump supporters, if you didn't vote for donald trump, who would your second choice be, 37 said ron desantis and -- vivek ramaswamy. vivek ramaswamy moment in the republican party. >> ainsley: fox news poll, efforts to overturn the 2020 election, donald trump did 44% said illegal, 43% said something wrong issue not illegal, 53% said nothing seriously wrong. >> brian: i was reading the "wall street journal" and dan hanager said donald trump could not win the general election, until these indictments started coming down and people see fulton county prosecutor, a bureau prosecutor. they happen to have a florida ambitious da in florida, montana, texas, oklahoma. they go after that candidate and people that benefit is china. suddenly he says he is seeing galvanization of people seeing this being politics over and people sayi

vivek ramaswamy and scott made a real impression.one has been very kind and warm, thank you for joining me, appreciate it. douglas: and now you're headlines. turning first to a fox hurricane alert. hillary -- hilary moving towards mexico and california your people are bracing for a once in a century storm with major impact expected tomorrow. southern california is under its first ever tropical storm warning, historic flooding could cause landslides and mudslides. for more on this story, download the fox weather apps on any connected device. vermont senator bernie sanders is set to deliver a major speech one week from today in new hampshire. 's office says he will spill out, quote, the agenda americans need. sanders is expected to share his thoughts on the first republican presidential debate airing on fox on wednesday night. sanders beat joe biden in the new hampshire presidential primary in 2020. miami dolphins cornerback encouraging people to see the sound of freedom during the press conference wednesday. >> like a movie fest yeste

someone who will be on that stage, vivek ramaswamy, said his comments on 9/11 were misquoted. well, we now have the tape. i'm kaitlan collins, and this is "the source." good evening. we start with breaking news on rudy giuliani and when he plans to surrender in georgia. it has been basically a revolving door of lawyers and defendants at the fulton county jail today in one of the most closely watched cases in the nation. two of trump's co-defendants in the efforts to overturn the election in georgia surrendered today. several more agreed to bond deals, bringing the deal there to about a dozen. one of them is a bail bondsman. yes, a bail bondsman, scott hall. he turned himself in today. along with trump ally and lawyer john eastman, who as you may remember pleaded the fifth to the january 6th congressional committee. but he said this outside the jail today standing next to his own attorney. >> i'm here today to surrender to an indictment that should never have been brought. i am confident that when the law is faithfully applied in this proceeding all of my co-defendants and i wi

he was not attacked as much as vivek ramaswamy was. and vivek ramaswamy took the incoming. him preserve his standing where he is at right now, which is 30 to 40 points, depending on the polls you look at, behind the front runner of trump. >> so interesting. standby. we have breaking news just in. condolences from vladimir putin for a man much at the world suspects he ordered dead. what the russian president said, after a quick break. when your family actually wears it. get odor-free 8-hour protection from mosquitoes and tickcks without the ick. zevo on-body repellelent. people love it. bugs hate it. being middle class right now, it's tough making ends meet for sure. republicans in congress say if we just cut taxes even more for the biggest corporations the money will eventually someday trickle trickle down to you. right. joe biden would rather just stop those corporations from charging so damn much. capping the cost of drugs like insulin. cracking down on surprise medical bills and all those crazy junk fees. there's more work to do. tell the president to keep lowering costs

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>> vivek ramaswamy told the truth.and said all you guys are bought and paid for. do you think was right? >> that's washington, d.c., for you. >> you like the outsiders calling out the insiders. nice to see you. rose, right? you are a regular here. your favorite thing to order every day. >> everything here is wonderful. >> name your favorite waitress. >> brittany. >> okay, brittany, congratulations. the country knows you are the best. >> what did i think? i watch the debate. the only one i came back with thinking. i thought he did -- >> governor of north dakota. >> you know something, there's only one man that russia, china, and iran are afraid of. donald trump. he did more -- i am in my 80s. and let me tell you, i have watched presidents since fdr. and i want to tell you, trump is the first one that said what he was going to do, and he did it. i have never seen anybody do it before. i know a lot of young people want somebody new. do you think china would be afraid of somebody new? >> arose is going to be on "the rest o

the reality is that vivek ramaswamy is running to be president of the united states.tomorrow night. and he says this is a central message to his campaign. >> this campaign is founded on the truth. the truth -- we will not back down from the truth. we stand for the truth. i am a patriot who speaks the truth. >> the truth is, he did say it. the quote was accurate. and it is on tape. and yes, this is how the media works. you get quoted, the things you say, accurately. up next for us -- vladimir putin was supposed to be at a summit of five nations that began today, but he only appeared via video. we will tell you why next. how do we decide what hotel to book? [ding] aargh! fear not, i got you! who are you? i'm your fairy hotel mother. what is happening? let me help you pick a hotel you feel good about. choice hotels is a family of brands, with a hotel for every type of stay. [whoosh] [ding] like a comfort with the kiddos. oooo, spacious! [whoosh] [ding] or, a cambria hotel downtown for just the two of you. hold my wand. don't wave it at anything. get the best price by boo

i don't understand what he was doing going after vivek ramaswamy. t a continuation of going after trump because vivek is all about trump 2.0, saying he would pardon him, saying his agenda's perfect and really in the going after the donald at all? i didn't understand the strategy, still don't understand the strategy. it's not like chris christie's going to bump vivek off of the vp if spot. i think it's safe to say if donald trump is the nominee, he's not going to pick chris christie as his vp -- cheryl: pretty sure. i will say he also, ramaswamy, he got pretty hammered on his foreign policy, especially in that exchange with nikki haley. and mike pence went after him on his foreign policy. so, look, it's the first big debate. again, we're five months from iowa. a lot can happen between now i and then, but i thought that was interesting, that could be a ramaswamy vulnerable issue that comes inin the next few days and weeks. >> i do think he did incredibly well though still despite that point, and he really -- i would take the chatgpt comparison and is r

vivek ramaswamy leads.na: donald trump has recorded an interview with topical carlsen -- checker process. what can we expect from that? >> tsn is -- he has said that sparks will fly. they have had their issues in the past. there were the messages were tucker carlsen had sent donald trump's presidency was a disaster and he would be happy to see him exit the stage. there may not be a perfectly collegial atmosphere between up, but they both obviously have bones to pick with fox news, the conservative television network hosting this site. their agendas aligned tonight and they are going to try to draw some attention away from this today. katrina: not everybody is a fan of donald trump but they will be watching this debate >> if you look at the polls, donald trump has majority support among republicans right now but it is not rocksolid. about half of donald trump's support in an iowa pooll -- poll has a said they are willing to entertain other candidates. the strategies you feel his supporters away, you either d

you mixed it up with vivek ramaswamy.t of your criticism of him and then ask about it on the other side. >> now is not the time for on-the-job training. we don't need to bring in a rookie, people without experience -- >> you say he is a rookie, on-the-job training. your last boss was a rookie. he had on-the-job training, a businessman who had never been elected, had no foreign policy experience. why is it disqualifying for vivek ramaswamy and not for donald trump in 2016? >> well, i think it's -- we live in a different time. i mean, president joe biden has weakened this country at home and abroad. the disasters from afghanistan has emboldened the enemies of freedom, wars in europe, and here at home the runaway spending under the biden administration launched the worst inflation in 40 years. the war on energy has gasoline prices still up 60%. open border policies created the worst border crisis in history. i wanted people to understand i believe this is a time for proven and experienced leadership in washington, d.c. i kno

>> chris christie, tim scott -- >> vivek ramaswamy. >> another -- >> probably the most -- >> vivek ramaswamyhirt off. >> left to right, let's go. >> i don't remember. >> who do you think what drove the best party? because he took his shirt off? >> i was impressed. >> you are so close. >> nikki haley, chris christie, jesse watters, mike pence, ron desantis, greg gutfeld's dad, vivek ramaswamy, tim scott. >> senator scott were governor desantis. >> you think desantis? as long as it's not disney, right? why is everyone running for president? they think he's easy to be? >> i'm happy with the president we have. >> there's no way he's awake this late. >> i don't know what it is, he's like cleaning the lead. you say chris christie. >> stop it. [laughter] >> shots fired at desantis. the best to party? >> chris christie. >> a lot of people say that but i think he's got to bring a fake id, he's like 12. ♪ >> who looks like they throw a good party? >> i don't know really, let me go for the lady. >> you say nikki haley for the win she's from south carolina, she used to be the governor. if the party gets

but vivek ramaswamy came out of nowhere so they just hit it. he has a vulnerable resume with inconsistent positions that his opponents will exploit tonight. look for ron desantis to target him early. chris christie will be a huge factor. he will command attention with constant attacks and insults against trump, desantis, ramaswamy and anything that moves. he's a seasoned debater with a quick new jersey lip. the audience won't love him but he will initiate clashes all night. if one of the candidates can kick chris christie in the teeth in the first 15 minutes, that will help. the others up on stage have no momentum and need breakthrough moments. so, desperation will be in the air. it will be a lively night. charlie hurt is a fox news contributor who joins us now. what is the mood that is hanging over this debate stage tonight, charlie? >> i think you summed it up quite perfectly there. obviously i think the most amount of pressure we are seeing right now is going to be on ron desantis. that is both because of the expectations that he and his sup

vivek ramaswamy drew a lot of attention, others attacked him.hey did as a foil to make their own points. nikki haley came across, the one person trying to break through. she was very articulate on many subjects and going point by point in a way that sums up her position. she's very good at what she's doing. the first debate they did well and now they move forward. paul: you haven't mentioned ron desantis. one of his tasks was to be able to stop the perception that he is in freefall. he has been second to trump for most of this campaign. how do you think he did? allysia: a mixed night for ron desantis. he benefited that vivek ramaswamy peaked in the polls, moving up in the polls, he became the center of focus, he became the punching bag on stage more than ron desantis. that meant he wasn't talking as much as he wanted to. he wasn't dominating the debate. when he came out he had a good explanation for leadership in florida. he probably helped to right the ship that way, do the message he wanted to put across to his audience. he looked a bit hesita

vivek ramaswamy has moved up a little bit. chris christie has moved up in new hampshire. they smell above in the water. i expect a lot of them will go after desantis. >> jen, you are familiar with the way that party infrastructure works. i am so struck by the fact you've already -- rnc chair ronna mcdaniel's practically begging donald trump to come to the debate, after putting in place what is a really wonky set of criteria that these candidates need to -- the fact that you have multiple candidates saying, i've cleared that hurdle, i can be on the debate stage, and the rnc is like, well, we are not so sure, we haven't figure that out yet. what does it say, not just about the party, but about the institutions? the infrastructure of the party itself that you have them, a few days out from the debate, begging him to be onstage. >> that it is trump's party. all of these candidates, you know, about four of the candidates running for president now in the republican side have been critical of trump and all of the things he's done including trying to overturn the will of the amer

with vivek ramaswamy coming to life as a potential g.o.p.akout star, more than doubling hits position. you see he climbed 6 points to 11%. no indication, by the way, that his surge is directly connected to that ability to rap eminem songs at the iowa state fair. former mike pence gaining a point in the middle of the pack with nikki haley also take the 1 point climb as well and trump's most vocal critic chris christie seeing some growth up 2 points, 1% to 3%. but, obviously, still 50% behind the frontrunner. finally, i want you to take a look at the small slip senator tim scott took down a point from 4% to 3% now. now, that's interesting to take into consideration because that is a reflection of our latest fox polling. but our latest fox power rankings you see here has far better news for tim scott putting him in third place behind trump and desantis. the reach why they have him up so far because our posh ranking system takes into consideration early state polls, in places like iowa, new hampshire, and south carolina as well as candidate perf

hammer vivek ramaswamy in a response.chris cristi attack and the key part, take a sledgehammer to vivek ramaswamy, vivek the fake. he dismissed the attack by robot ron and a new country erupted when desantis said this. >> if all we are is listless vessels that are just supposed to follow whatever happens to am come down the pike on truth social every morning that's not a durable movement. howie: okay, rich we'll come back to vivek ramaswamy later i know you have things to say about that but the desantis campaign tells me the dishonest media are distorting the facts and that the governor was referring to trump and d.c. insiders who feel entitled to vorticity your vote, but it sounds like hillary integrating trump voters as a basket of deplorables. >> as an insult listless develops doesn't really rate for me. it's clear to me what he meant. he's trying to say literally trump shouldn't define whether you're a loyal republican or a loyal conservative, but it seems like one of those things now that's just going to enter and th

ramaswamy last night. mike pence called him a rookie. watch this. >> vivekyou recently said a president can't do everything. a president of the united states has to confront every crisis facing america. >> this isn't that complicated, guys. unlock american energy, drill, frack, burn coal and embrace nuclear. put people back to work by no longer paying them more to stay at home. reform the u.s. fed, stabilize the u.s. t dollar and that's something the u.s. president can do with focus and i'll deliver. >> now is not the time for on the job training. we don't need to bring in a rookie, people without experience. stuart: it was a good debate. what do you make of ramaswamy? >> i like him on many fronts. the idea that he's a rookie without washington dc experience i think is appealing to a lot of people in the republican primary. they got a little snacker jim jordan with each other -- snarky with each other and didn't bode well with things and the idea of energy independence is a strong them and vivek ramaswamy articlates that well and most people take that same p

he's positive on vivek ramaswamy, hasn't said much about nikki haley.dlines about nikki haley's momentum. is supreme opportunity, nikki haley starting to look like a real threat to trump et cetera et cetera. come in, bill strong, nikki haley donor. should your candidate attack trump now directly? >> i love seeing those headlines. what we are really focused on our policies that can make life better for americans. we are not attacking, we are going to speak the truth, you saw this in the fox debate last week, nikki is going to tell the truth about issues facing america and putting forward good policies. stuart: she stood out in the debate especially on the issue of abortion which many republicans believe they have got to shift their position a little. i think she won the debate on that issue and i'm sure you will agree with that. >> i do agree with that, particularly, she had two difficult pregnancies she mentioned in the debate, her husband could have been aborted. they've been married for many years and coming from a woman it is especially a message, as

vivek ramaswamy, trump?where he is but that may not last. >> neil: i was catching my breath. talking about the debate next week. they were reminding me that someone has a line or performance out of nowhere that catches people's attention. i don't know how long it keeps traction going for them. but do you expect any breakout type of performance? >> it's always a wild card. we have seen chris christie and vivek ramaswamy. they are very good. they are good on their feet. they will come back with a quick answer that is comprehensive and smart. also nikki haley is a very accomplished politician. i think she'll do well in the debate as well. >> neil: always good seeing you. thank you very much. all right, we are mentioning vivek ramaswamy. he will be my special guest on my saturday show at 10:00 a.m. eastern time to pick apart the phenomena he's become whether he can keep that going. he can also be like whack-a-mole here. he seems to be gaining some traction. we'll see how long that lasts, talk to him on saturday.

it's not good for the voters when they have to be in this position. >> vivek ramaswamy was at the center there, with governor desantis, but it was mr. ramaswamy that really took a lot of the incoming, and we we're talking before coming on about the fact that he was trying to distinguish himself as a non-politician, saying that politicians, you are one of them, elected politicians, are bought and sold. and that's how they got there. he took issue with that. >> i did. he basically said everybody on the podium was corrupt except for him that was bought and paid for. yeah, he's standing out with some very harsh statements, policy positions that are not workable, and i think it showed tonight. inexperience. his inability to bring people together to solve problems for our country. he's a little bit of a bomb thrower on policy issues. >> last question, you wear it worked hard to get on the debate stage tonight. the threshold is going to be tougher for the next debate. do you feel comfortable you'll be on the next debate stage? >> i really do. obviously being on this debate stage helps you get o

no one had -- people all had their pre-canned vivek ramaswamy lines. ll planned to attack vivek, not desantis. and i felt that -- she mentioned pence and nikki, but even christie, who -- his sort of high water mark is a republican primary candidate in 2016 was ending rubio's candidacy, even he targeted ramaswamy not desantis. >> i was gonna say, they're not all running for president. we know some are running to be a potential running mate with the person who was not there who is still the former president on the way. so, the anti trump people, if you want to say that is christie and asa hutchinson, okay, put them aside. and pence is the one person with experience on the job who cannot be the running mate again, for all the reasons we know. so, he is actually also out. and so i do think that someone like senator scott and desantis are on this relatively short list when we actually think about it, of relative people who could position and and this thing in a decent place and -- >> -- feel the asa hutchinson freight train running out of the freight train s

joining us now is vivek ramaswamy.before that, let's take a look at him in a confrontation he had that has gone kind of viral in exchange with a voter in iowa. take a look. >> i am wondering why your views on same-sex. >> i don't have a negative view of same-sex couples. i do have a negative view of a tyranny of the minority. i believe we live in a country where free adult should be free to dress how they want and behave how they want. that is fine. but you don't become oppressive by hoisting that on others. especially kids. kids are not the same as adults. adults are free to make whatever choices they want. i respect if you have an opinion. that's okay. that is part of what makes our country great. you and i can be civil and have this conversation. >> it hasn't all been work. he found time to have fun on the campaign trail with eminem. let's see how he does. >> the words won't come out. everybody is joking now. the clock has run out. times up. now back to reality. >> vivek ramaswamy joins us right now. how are you? >>

they heard from the vivek ramaswamy and chris christie.orporate diversity efforts as well as the importance of restoring patriotism in this country. for his part, christie talking about school choice, public safety and really strengthening america's foreign policy. trump not a focus of this event. erick erickson, who put this on, did not invite trump, and was very deliberate in not asking the candidates in these 45-minute wide-ranging interviews for the most part about trump. still, after christie left the stage, he addressed reporters and attacked trump for skipping out on next week's first republican debate. >> there is no other conclusion to come to that he is afraid of me and defending his record. and if i had his record, i would be nervous about showing up, too. let's face it, guys. by wednesday, he is going to be out on bail in four different jurisdictions. that really -- when are we going to stop thinking that's normal? when are we going to allow our country to understand again that nominating someone who is out on bail in four juri

he mentioned vivek ramaswamy the winner. he did not make any reference to you. >> well, i'm stunned that as i was talking about donald trump and all the ways he let down our party and our country that he didn't mention me as a winner of the debate last night. but, you know, vivek things that donald trump is the greatest president of the 21st century, what the hell is he doing running? he should drop out tomorrow. >> neil: yeah, let me ask you about that, too. another issue came up where you and vivek ramaswamy came to blows on the issue of ukraine. i want you to respond to this, governor. >> i find it offensive that we have politicians on the stage that will make a pilgrimage to kiev, to their pope, zelensky, without doing the same thing for people in maui or the south side of chicago or kensington. we have to put the interest of americans first. >> i did go to ukraine. i went to ukraine because i want to see for myself what vladimir putin's army was doing to the free ukraine people. this is the vladimir putin who donald tru

brilliant, brilliant politico so begin with you on some of the early indications right now is that vivek ramaswamyot of money. ron desantis maybe because vivek taking incoming also had a good night. what do you make of that? >> well, look, i really think there are four credible candidates coming out of this. i think ron desantis although couldn't say had an amazing debate night. i think he held on to his own and seem to have picked up sol support got some good money out of that. ramramaswamy polarizing an interesting to see how it develops over the next month or so with some controversial views. and nikki haley was really quite strong. right, and i think tim scott a little more subdued but still when i look at the washington post poll a lot of -- a lot of republican vote reverse still open to him. those four seem to be the go forward candidates to me. neil: interesting, noel some early sentiment reflects what mark said i had one guest earlier who said -- ron desantis secures his number one spot for being number two, and i wonder what you make of that. >> well, with respect to -- [silence] concept

but vivek ramaswamy did something else he stole the woke argument from ron desantis said dofdesantisver this in florida he is saying in davenport iowa in a clip floridd of the plates were ghosted but vivek ramaswamy is the one out there explaining what woke means and why he should be against it these diversity programs are hurting people who otherwise could make it on their own. that corporate america is always trying to solve the wrong problems. vivek ramaswamy is like a never ending ted tuckey says never says no to any tv he's accessible to the press is accessible to the verses got great energy. voters are responding but also he never attack stroke. i think the best way for desantis to have defended trump as to not run the first place. he is seen as somebody who is critical trumpet. >> on the rules people should know about you going to be hearing about there's not going to be opening statements or snow campaign speeches in the opener. one minute to answer, 45 seconds for closing remarks, 30 seconds to follow up. that format works for what candidate in particular? >> people are flex

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