the press at the white house christmas parties. of these things that make us a living breathing museum. most off us in preservation woud not think about. >> thank you very much. that was a really eloquent start we have been involved with the white house since 1933. the collections since 1961. i r feel, you know, it really speaks to what the national park service is about. telling the story of this nation for future generations. i feel like that is what we do every day working here at the white house. i feel like, you know, all of those things that we see are important for people we sometimes takeom it for granted. people really see each one of those things as meaning something to them. waiting their whole life to see. it is very important that we all bear together making sure that that place is very special for people when they come to visit. as we said, it is an ever dynamic environment. it is changing every moment. changing with every administration. we have to be there to adjust and be nimble and work with it. at the same time,

we've been involved with the white house since 1933. and then with this house itself and the collection some ways too since 1961 and i feel you know, it's it really speaks to what the national park service is about. it's about preserving protecting and telling the story of this nation for future generations. and i feel like that's what we do every day working here at the white house and i feel like you know, all those things that we see, you know are important for people, you know, we sometimes take it for granted, but people really see each one of those things as meaning something to them something they've waited their whole life to see so it's very very important to us that we all bear together and making sure that that place is very special for people when they come to visit it also too as we've said it's it's ever dynamic environment. it's changing. great moment. it's changing with every administration. and so we have to be there to adjust and be able to be nimble and to work with it. but at the same time understand that trust that's

the white house. well, with us to give deeper insight into pat nixon and betty ford, we have some distinguished people on this stage, susan ford bales only daughter of president and mrs.. susan is the sponsor, the aircraft carrier uss gerald r ford and recognize one of her extraordinary service as the ship's sponsor. susan was named an honorary aviator by the united states navy, becoming only the 31st american ever to receive this distinction and the first woman ever to be so honored. she is the recipient of three honorary doctorates and is the author of two novels set in the white house. i'm waiting for those novels. get on tv now, because the netflix we need to clean up next looks a little. edward cox next to susan, the son in law of president and mrs. nixon. many of you recall that the hauenstein and the ford held a joint program. i figured it out 12 years ago. you asked when it was 12 years, 2011, where we were at the ford museum and featured ed cox talking about what it's like to work with presid

white house. today, we have a wonderful guest, pete souza, who is the bestselling author and for eight years was the chief white house photographer for president. obama headed the white house photography office and was a presidential photographer for president reagan. we have much talk about gathered with us here today. indicator house is a wonderful audience. friends of the white house historical association. many of you have the white house for years in either journalism, television, radio, photography and it's great to have you with us as well. so let's dive in, have our first question to pete. do you remember what the circumstances were, how old you were, the very first time you visited the white house? i do. i was a 1965. okay. my parents took myself and my sister, jane to d.c. and we we toured washington and we visited the white house. we went on the white house tour. we have no oh, no visit. do you know why? why is that? because photos were not on the white house tours until michelle obama.

rubenstein national center for white house history of the white house historical association. dr. colleen shogan is a trained trained political science with a ph.d. in american politics from yale university as well as a bachelor's degree in p politil science from boston college. she has almost 15 years of service in the federal government including prominent roles at the t u.s. senate as ws the library of congress. dr. shogan teaches government students at georgetown university that serves as vice chair of the women's suffrage centennial division and another feather in our is that she currently serves as the cochair of the board of directors of the women's suffrage national monumentnt designated by congres to build the first memorial in d.c. dedicated to the history of the movement for women's equality. the huge deal. [applause] we have a elaine rice bachman who is the state archivist of maryland and the co-author of a wonderful book designing camelot published by the white house historical association and in practice it was launched in this very room on july 28 which happened at

we are going to move from mount vernon went to move the white house we are here today at the white houseistorical association. melissa, i know you've done some research recently in a presentation about some the first lady's prayer for jacqueline kennedy who engage in preservation efforts at the white house. share with some of the lesser-known stories. were these women the necessary predecessors to what we see eventually relates under the kennedy administration? >> i would be happy too.s absolutely sometimes a story of historic preservation has a source of the white house and ends often with jacqueline kennedy. there are certainly many precedents in place when she became first lady in 1861. many first ladies were involved in those efforts i went ahead a few today. if i could have the first slide? the first first lady who deserves the credit of promoting historic preservation at the white house was lucretia hayes. her husband rutherford b hayes came into office in 1877. first i want to point out she appears on the scene 84 years before mrs. kennedy. she was with the first, first lady to ha

visitation to the white house crippled in their first year there. eryone was carrying out a guidebook. you did see the pictures of people leaving the house with a guidebook or she had a brillians vision. if we can go to the next slide, please. here's the initial, the offering of a guidebook when it was first offered for sale there in 1962. i want to point out the only two women in the remarks jacqueline kennedy and lorraine waxman pierce, the first curator of the white house also a graduate of the winter program. she established that curators office the first curator which is now the legacy of that and mrs. pierce was essential in authoring, helping to offer that first guidebook. in the next slide, please. so beyond what she was doing in the white house itself, she really looked outside its walls and into the neighborhood. we can all touch on this in his opening remarks about the lafayette square here i want to credit kathleen wrote a wonderful article in 2006 for the leadership forum journal about the efforts that mrs. canoe made to save lafayette s

the nuclear age transform the presidency from a single person work on the white house to a much broader stretching houses of congress. the presidency hasn't 18 and even a seed team in the event of an emergency each team and its designated president had a different role different evacuation. most cases include the elected president would remain inma washington and by design to be sacrificed for the opening minutes of nuclear attack. the hills of virginia built to withstand nuclear attack the charlie team would head out to other bunkers and relocation facilities around the capitol ysome of the nearly 100 differet bunkers airborne command makes available within an hour of washington the government would activate. each of course the offices in the presidential line of succession as we have discussed today has its own unique line of succession. dozens of civilian and military officials populate the line a possible path where the principal deputy under secretary of defense for logistics in the u.s. attorney for the district of minnesota quickly end up being among the most important figures in

the white house, though, is caught mt.otecting women's rights and standing up for transgender athletes. does the the president agree this is a women's rights issue? >> so we've talked about this many times, this is the title ix specifically. look, and, again, we've talked about this multiple times, it's a complicated issue, and there are a wide range of views on this. >> reporter: -- does he care that girls are allowed to the to compete in sports -- >> i just, i -- >> reporter: does he think it's fair for girls to have to compete against biological males in. >> i just answered the question, it is a complicated issue. it is truly a complicated issue with a wide range of views, a wide range of views. there is no yes or no answer to to this, it is complicated. >> reporter: for many american, it's not complicated. they've made up their mind. nearly 70% of americans say transgender athletes should only be allowed to compete if on sports teams that match their birth gender. nikki haley reacting to the white house sidestepping my

in the whitee house. that was one of my great victories.as immunization was required by school-age and only 15 states. there is a little bit if there's an argument about 15 or 17. the first year we were working with betty and secretary we got it in all 50 states. that was exciting. with this big meeting in washington i go from one subject to another. we had a big meeting in washington to celebrate with people from all over thene country.y. the next day there's not one word in a paper about it. i was so upset so i called joe i said i know there was a camera there. he said it was ours but nobody was interested in that news the session. i got upset with a prostitute, because they covered my mental health work might the first few meetings i had. then they never showedd up anymore. one of the things i wanted to do was bringt attention to the issue, how terrible it was. and what few services there were. iic think just getting it out in the public, that's what i did in georgia. there's a good program in georgia

coolidge had a very pristine white house even a laid off the white house housekeeper could see that they spent too much because he was asking is he said the people to cut the budget federal budget then he must cut his white house budget as well and the big character thing that he did was he was rather popular contrary to what history books suggests now. and so he easily could have run again in 19. 28 he chose not to run why because he was trying to convey that office. is more important than man? i'm not as an lbj or of course roosevelt who said the elections about moi, you know. coolidge wanted to receive to in order to make the office more respectful. we live in a republic of laws. not men. and that that was a tough decision not to run because the party didn't exactly thank him for it when a candidate is very popular. he has big coattails. well coolidge did it. anyhow, there were other factors including illness his wife and so on but the main factor was he wanted to make like george washington rather than make like theodore roosevelt who said he wouldn't run again and then did and also

the nuclear age transformed the presidency from a single person working in the white house to a much broader idea a long line of men and women stretching through both houses of congress and through every cabinet agency. the presidency literally had an a team a b team and even a c team in the cold war and in the event of an emergency each team and its designated president had a different role and different evacuation destination. the alpha team which in most cases included the elective prep the elected president would remain in washington and by design be sacrificed in the opening minutes of a nuclear attack. the bravo team would head to mount weather the sprawling secret bunker in the hills of virginia built to withstand nuclear attack and the charlie team would head out to other bunkers and relocation facilities around the capitol some of the nearly 100 different bunkers airborne command posts available within an hour of washington that the government would activate in an emergency. each of course of the offices in the presidential line of succession as we have heard discussed today

this is the deputy white house chief of staff for counsel, so a top lawyer in the white house meetingh an aide, presumably a rank and file person from the special prosecutor's office. what are they talking about? we don't know. but presumably that's the easiest way, hands off way to director coordinate if you want to and we learned this how? because we finally get access to white house visitor logs so we know that meeting happened so it's hard -- do people out there care? yes. but what can you do about snit you feel like it's baked into the cake. rachel: there's never any consequences. nobody from the russia hoax -- we had to piece these things together. it took a long time for everyone to get it together. nobody faced consequences, the people who lied, the people who had illegal meetings, people who were text and saying all these things that implicated them, they got jobs at cnn and msnbc. >> we had the conversation. we don't need to belabor it. we had a conversation about what the casual person, what the casual observer takes from not just the investigations into president trump but

doctor matthew vice president of the rubinstein national center for white house history and a senior orian at the white houseia historical association will moderate the conversation. the firstre panelist is leslie greenbaum and president of the thomas jefferson foundationmo which owns and operates monticello. in addition to this work she's served by presidential appointment on the committees of the preservation of the white house under presidents joe biden, donald trump, barack obama, george w. bush and bill clinton. president of the white house historical association leading to the association nonprofit, nonpartisan mission to support conservation and preservation at the white house private funding. john serves l as the national pk service liaison to the white house overseeing the national park service is responsibilities for the care of the white house and its grounds as well as the parking areas immediately surrounding the whitey. house. finally, we are joined by lydia the curator of the white house, she's been part of the white house staff since 1979. lectured and published articl

transformm presidency working te white house toad a much broader idea, long line through both houses of congress in every agency. in 18 and be team and even a c team. the designated president had a different role and destination. the team included elected president to remain in washington and by design be esacrificed to a nuclear attack. a bunker in the hills and the team would head out to other brokers around the capital, some nearly 100 different bookers available within an hour to activate an emergency. each of the offices in the line of succession has its own unique line, dozens of military officials create a possible path for the principal deputy for technology and logistics and u.s. attorney for the district of minnesota quickly end up being among the most important figures in american politics. hope again is an all encompassing civil defense for every household, workplace, village or schoolchildren of a certain age in the 50s and 60s gradually shrunk with advancing technology to a single plan of elite leaders and bunkers hidden underneath but what does actually look like? one

the white house historical association? history of the white houseen historical association doctor shogun is a great political phd inst with a american politics from yale university as well as a bachelors degree in political science from boston college she is almost 15 years of service and the federal government including prominent roles with the u.s. senate as well as the library of congress she teaches government students at georgetown university and served as vice chair of the women's suffrage centennial commission another feather in her cap and an illustrious resident is that she currently serves as a cochair of the board of directors at the women's suffrage national monument foundation, designated by the congress to build the first memorial in d.c. dedicated to the history of the movement for women'sge equality. it's a huge deal. [applause] to begin with our panelists we have elaine rice bachmann who is the state archivist of maryland and a co-author of the wonderful book, designing camelot, published by the white hous

. >> welcome white house history live for those of the white house historical association. my nameat is doctor children, senior vice president of the white house historical association and the director of the david signs for white house history. tonight is a special episode of white house history live as we want the book, the president also legacy in americane. cultu. this book was published by the university of virginia press in partnership with the center for, presidential history and seven methodist university and miller center at uva. renowned emerging scholars to examine how different generations and communities of americans eulogized and remembered the u.s. we are joined by several scholars that contribute to the stage and others in the audience include chester patch and brandon robinson so thank you for joining us this evening. the white house historical association vice president of the science center. one of the editors of the book contributed a chapter on theodore roosevelt. doctor lindsay is a presidential historian and currently a fellow at thee library of congr

all white house correspondent, kimberly how could as follow trump on the campaign trail, added the white house to this. what is the twist in terms of his legal problems? he joins us now. kimberly, will these latest charges help or hinder? trump's bid for a 2nd time and the white house in the short term, these are likely to help donald trump, because once again, what it does is it put donald trump's name in the forefront, in newscasts all across the united states, all around the world. it's injecting oxygen into his campaign for another term in the white house. and so this is very good news for donald trump is what he likes it's, it's given him headlines, but of the long term it could be detrimental because what this is doing is time consuming for donald trump. he has yet another legal battle to fight. it is distracting, and it's also sucking money away from the war chest, if you will. these are all the battles that he has to fight and it's a battle that is distracting from the battle. he wants to be fighting against joe biden, for the white house. and so ultimately this is a problem for

. >> welcome to white house history live. for those joining in person welcome to the decatur house and white house historical association. my name is doctor colleen senior vice president at the white house historical association and the director of the david rubenstein center for white house history. tonight is a special episode of whiteout's history live as we launch the book morning the president's life and legacy and culture. the book was published by the university virginia press in partnership with the center of presidential history at southern methodist university and the miller center at uba. morning the presidents brings together renowned and emerging scholars to examine how different generations and communities of americans have eulogized and remembered u.s. presidents. this evening we are joined by several scholars that contributed to the book on stage and we haveth others in the audience including chester patch and brandon robinson. so thank you for joining us this evening. doctor matthew costello was the senior hi

they also -- a white house official confirms again that the white house did not have any special heads-upore the attorney general made the announcement about the special counsel. we should note that president biden is here at the white house today. he has had no public events, but he will be heading to rthe beac today which will give reporters a chance to ask him questions about this, but no comment from the white house. >> we are getting comment now from capitol hill from republicans who run the house. lauren fox, what are you hearing? >> reporter: we're getting initial statements, dana, this one coming from a spokesperson on the house judiciary committee who works for jim jordan. and in the statement, it's clear that this is not quelling any of those concerns that house republicans have had. in the statement he says, david weiss can't be trusted and this is just a new way to whitewash the biden family's corruption. weiss has signed off on a sweetheart plea deal that was so awful and unfair that a federal judge rejected it. we will continue to pursue facts brought to light by brave whist

white house historical association. the director of the center for white house history. the white house historical association is a nonprofit nonpartisan organization with a mission to educate americans about the rich and diverse history of the white house and the people who live and work there. our guest this evening is michael cut mike is a retired rear admiral from the navies civil engineer corps. he served in a variety of assignments around thehe world d his 29 year military career including commander of camp david. after military retirement in 2010 mike has worked in private industry is now the chief executive officer of the building information systems technology company headquartered in its home town of historic pennsylvania. in october 2017 he published his first book inside camp david the private world of the presidential retreat. mike traveled often speaking about the book and has been covered by the wall street journal, the today show the smithsonian, npr, c-span many other print radio and television outlets.

do we expect hearings, more of a back and forth between house republicans, the white house and these tech companies? >> yeah, this investigation is still ongoing. they have turned over 53,000 documents that are both internal communications, other communications, content moderation decisions that they have made. house republicans are still investigating, still digging into this. but broadly in congress we have seen a push from republicans to really hold people accountable that are in positions of power in the administration on the senate side, you are seeing senator rand paul ask for the criminal referral for dr. anthony fauci for what senator paul says is misleading testimony he gave to the senate. so, we are seeing more pressure really across the board for this, rich. >> rich: hillary vaughn live on capitol hill, thank you. >> if you and i were talking a year ago, inflation would have been two-thirds higher than today. gas price down a buck 50. >> gas prices are not where they were a year ago. >> a lot of investment in innovations around electric vehicles. >> gifts that keep on givin

does the white house affect a.i said, i think it could i don't i don't think it didn't affect ours. um because we just been partners working together for so long. um, but because, and, and i could see if, if, if the first lady was not particular interested in the different issues, i think it would be very difficult. but jimmy could talk to me about all of it and i think it happens that way more and more with first ladies because it's some of the early first ladies were very active, but then the others that were not. and when you look back at previous first ladies before you served, who did you admire? who did you emulate? who did you learn from. well, the closest person i had the closest and the only first lady that had knowledge of was lady bird. when jim was governor, she came to go to georgia and help me with the highway beautification program and i just knew her. and she, uh, but the main thing she told me was, if i would ask us on this, it's a enjoy. enjoy, because it's not going to last. you know, you'll be t

with the white house.eries of events that would rock the justice department. . >> we came in on monday, december 28th. hectic day and they all were. in the afternoon, we got the email, which i had to sit down and read more than once to make sure i understood what he was proposing. >> what was he proposing? >> he was proposing sending out a letter, signed by the three of us, the acting attorney general, myself, and jeff clark, to georgia. but also, the other stored states, the other swing states as well. suggesting essentially that they set aside the electors desperate to support president- elect biden and hold hearings. and basically had the state legislatures pick a new slate of electors. >> the letter claimed that u.s. department of justice's investigation had, quote, identified significant concerns that have impacted the output outcome of the election in multiple states including the state of georgia. end quote. is that true? >> no. >> while the letter was sent solely by jeff clark, it was written with

trump's white house chief of staff.w, there used to be a really healthy competition for the title of worst chief of staff american history. meadows owns it by a country mile. haldeman can't. nope. anyway. meadows is was not only a yes man to donald trump, he was a yes man to almost and inexplicably a kind of a wink and a nod. he told meadows to. yeah, go ahead. just don't tell, boss. just, you know, stay out of the with a result that chris liddell managed with a small group of other people in the trump west wing to make that there was a peaceful transition to power at noon. write about it in my book. it's an assistant issuing story. i think, ron klain, of course, was before he became white house chief of staff. a co chairman of the transition during this whole period. i this great story about a a zoom call a private zoom call that clayton had with 19 of the 22 living white house chiefs of staff a month before the inauguration and they all gave him advice clain probably didn't need because he was by all accounts the most

officials won't say why the white house's spotted near the white house as 26% of voters polled by a.p. list age as the the first thing they think of when they think of the president. using words like old, outdated, aging and elderly. >> we will happily, happily to discuss as we relates to age what the president has been able to do and. deliver some kind of healing addressing a racially motivated mass murder in jacksonville. >> we have to act against this hate filled violence. >> white house officials are precinct to respond to an impeachment inquiry. >> each step we take contradicts what the bidens have said before. could you imagine being a sitting vice president and your family member set up 20 shell companies? american companies don't do that. >> at the center of g.o.p. allegations of wrongdoing, hunter biden who is reportedly selling art to pay $15,800 a month rent on a house in malibu. even though in july insider reported at least one person who bought a hunter biden painting also got a job in the administration, although that report str stresses timing of te purchase sun

our white house correspondent has followed trump on the campaign trail and in the white house, too, asl as the twists and turns of his legal problems. she joins us now. will these latest charges help or hinder trump's date for a second term in the white house? guest: in the short-term, these are likely to help donald trump. once again, it does put donald trump's name in the forefront in newscasts all across the united states and around the world. it is injecting oxygen into his campaign for another term in the white house. so this is very good news for donald trump. it is what he likes. giving him headlines. but in the long term, it could be detrimental, because what this is doing is time-consuming for donald trump. he has yet another legal battle to fight. it is distracting. and it is also sucking money away from the warchest, if you will. these are all battles that he has to fight, and it is a battle that is distracting from the battle he wants to be fighting against joe biden for the white house. ultimately, this is a problem for the man that wants to become president once again. ad

white house not expected to address this on camera, there is no white house briefing. the president is getting ready to head out of town for the weekend instead and i would imagine the white house would simply defer all questions to hunter biden's legal team which they have done in the past. as i mentioned, we had a chance to ask the white house a few weeks ago what happens if the first son is convicted on any charge, would president biden then consider a pardon and the white house issued a flat no, that was not a possibility in their eyes. whether or not we are going to see additional comment from the white house is still yet to be seen. >> gillian: i know you are at the justice department today, we are used to seeing you more regularly at the white house. can i ask you to put that cap back on for a moment. do you think it's going to be sustainable messaging strategy for the white house communications team to continue deferring questions regarding this now special counsel investigation all to the department of justice or do you think at some point here the president,

it has always been in the white house too. he started calling me and said do something and i wanted to be home when amy got home from school. without scheduling anything in that part of the afternoon, we were jogging, exercising, swim, and talk about what he had done during the day and what i had done during the day and we had a good relationship. what i learned in the white house was there is no way to know what is happening because of the press. you can't learn from newspapers, you can't learn from what is on tv. when you -- we didn't have computers, the big mainframe still in the white house, nobody ever used them. this is a long time ago. many years ago. but i couldn't tell. he said everything, he stepped off the elevator, i said why didn't you do that? i had to know. i was touring the country and in february, one day over there, he said why don't you come to cabinet meetings and then you will know how we do the things and that is when i started with cabinet meetings. a lot of people don't know cabinet meetings have staff

there was an f-bomb reynolds face-off with facebook in the white house white house by the white house target users all in an effort to try to get more shots and arms. this pandemic power struggle hit its peak as president biden's digital director rob flaherty and the white house senior advisor for covid response join a call where facebook employees were berated by the white house for not turning over more data. saying on the call, "i feel like we are running around in circles. some partners give us lots of information. some partners tell us to f right offer that feels like we are chasing our tails but we reached out to the white house for comment. these documents also show that the white house and facebook both attempted to limit the spread of true information on a call between facebook employees in the surgeon general's office. facebook employees told the biden administration staff this. most questioning whether you should get a vaccine under a mandate whether it is government overreach. that's not false information but it leads to a vaccine negative environment. >> thanks for that.

so i knew i had an agenda when i got to the white house. was frustrated because i cannot always get the kind of publicity i wanted too. my mental health task force the president's commission on mental health. this is the president's commission on mental health. there's a big ceremony inviting people are interested in mental health. i was really excited. had great people, the best people. the nexthe day i picked up the "washington post" and not word, not one word. i was really distressed the "new york times" had a good article. so then i talked about it some of the press people would come came to one or two meetings. but we worked on that task force and the commission. we met long hours and it worked. mrs. carter mental health is just not a sexy issue. that made me mad. i was frustrated sometimes they would cover things i did not think was important. i didn't want mental health covered because as my project, but the stigma is so bad. it's an acceptable thing to work on. it could help people out in they country. i really they were at frustrat

he left the white house and went back to the house in georgetown where he would stay and he grabbed his grip and headed for the washington navy yard. when he got there he found ellsworth laid out in the engine house. they were called the fire and that is because ellsworth raised a regiment all of firemen, okay, new york fireman. he thought these are men that rush towards fire. they are used to dealing with dangerous situations and they will make excellent soldiers. this was a type of infantry units used in the crimean war. there were no further aggressive tactics so they used different tactics than the standard union infantry soldier. so, that's why ellsworth was being autopsied in the engine house. it might be called the fire house today. it's where they kept the fire apparatus. so, after the autopsy was complete, holmes got to work using his proprietary fluid called and while he was in bombing ellsworth, the presidential carriage showed up at the navy yard and in it was mrs. lincoln and she wanted to see ellsworth. now this was victorian times. ellsworth was undergoing a surgical proc

the white house says it is ready to prepare more resources to help with that. they'll dispatch some from dhs and the department of education, housing as well as the department of the interior. the white house says it wants a whole lot more money to deal with this. $6 hundred million. new york's governor says help can't come soon enough. >> i know the frustration of new yorkers who are seeing something that they never expected. their soccer fields being used for migrants and facilities in their neighborhood. a whole knew dynamic for residents of new york and exasperateing for many of them. >> not just the governor is dealing with this. pressure is continuing to build on secretary mayokas to address a migrant surge but what's happening across the country. >> why would we write a check to mayokas to leave us exposed? i don't think we should. republicans hold the line. i hope we will. >> when it comes to the blame game the white house says don't point at us. it is up to congress to come up with an immigration reform package. no indication that will be happening any

she arrived at the white house after the 1976 campaign with a blueprint to go to work. she was a valued political partner to her husband jimmy, but found that there were many obstacles facing a first lady. wanted to influence public policy. she became known as a staunch advocate for those struggling with their mental health you'll hear directly from her featuring footage from c-span's video library first. her work on mental health issues and why they became so important to her. of february 1977 event at the white house after president carter signed an executive order creating a mental health commission, which she served as active honorary chair and important early forum now listen to her in her own words. as you probably know for the past. year and a half a little more i have campaigned all over the country. my biographical sketch. i had a little paragraph that said that i was interested in mental health and so everywhere i went if people had a good program. they wanted me to see it. i had a chance to see things happening all over this country that are good. also had so

decatur house and the white house historical association. my name is dr. colleen shogan, and david rubenstein history. tonight is a special episode of white house history live as we launch the book, mourning the presidents loss and legacy in american culture. this was for the center of presidential history at southern methodist university and uva. mourning the presidents brings renowned scholars to examine how different generations and communities of americans have eulogizeden remembered u.s. presidents. this evening we're joined by several scholars that contributed to the book on the stage and others in the audience, chester patch and robinson. dr. matthew costello is the senior historian at the rubenstein center. and captured the chapters on theodore roosevelt. dr. cher minsky is the senior fellow for presidential history at smu. lindsay served as editor for the book and wrote the introduction. dr. wilkins-conrad contributed the chapter on john f. kennedy and how he was remembered by african-americans over time. our moderator for this epis