indrani, clearly there has been _ it in perspective.has been massive growth in it in perspective. indrani, clearly - there has been massive growth in the indian economy, it is the fastest growing of the major economies at the moment but when you compare it in size to china it is one fifth of the site so there is plenty of upside for india. i get the sense given the direction mr sunak is coming from that this is a deal that will get done at some point but we have two election spending, it will maybe get shoved a bit further down the line. i maybe get shoved a bit further down the line. ~' ., , ., the line. i think the indians are actually very — the line. i think the indians are actually very keen _ the line. i think the indians are actually very keen to _ the line. i think the indians are actually very keen to complete| the line. i think the indians are - actually very keen to complete this deal _ actually very keen to complete this deal they— actually very keen to complete this deal. they have been at it and they really _ deal. they ha

indrani: yes, she is. that rishi sunak is actually from of indian origin but from east africa, not actually from india. but she comes from a very famous family. but yeah. christian: does that actually -- sorry, i just left you, but does that complicate -- part of it is visas for students, but also the tech sector. and he is cofounder of the biggest tech company of all india. indrani: it is. visas for tech people, tech professionals, is always a sticking point everywhere. i think negotiating something similar with america right now, because tech professionals tend to keep wanting to go to america, and america has at least for indians something like 1000 days waiting for a visa. so, visas to the u.k. for tech professionals would be a big one. i do believe there are some other issues in terms of whiskey, smaller stuff. but i think important to the u.k., some areas of market access for india. but nothing that is insurmountable. i do believe this will come through. christian: yeah, interesting to hear from the

and our panel this evening here in new delhi — indrani bagchi, ceo of the ananta aspen centre.london, peter ricketts, former national security adviser to the british government. and from washington, joel rubin, former adviser to the us state department. welcome back. at last year's summit in bali, there was an almighty tussle to secure a paragraph in the final communique that summed up the wide condemnation of russia's war in ukraine. "we deplore in the strongest terms," said the final draught, "the aggression by the russian federation and we demand its complete and unconditional withdrawal from the territory of ukraine". but also included in that text was a line that not all countries shared that view. this year, a compromise may be even harder. ahead of the summit, not one draught communique has emerged. russia and china have so far vetoed every statement that contains any mention of ukraine. in fact, some there are concerns mounting that a final communique might not emerge at all. i have been speaking to ursula von der leyen, president of the european commission, about the l