jim schultz and elie mystal, standby for me for a moment here. also, new tonight, one of donald trump aides's flipping on him, that mar-a-lago i. t. worker who is threatened with prosecution in the, cases cooperating with prosecutors now. and as a result, he will not be prosecuted in this case. that comes as trump is saying he is willing to testify in his cases. >> if you have to go to trial, will you testify in your own defense? >> oh, yes, absolutely. >> you will take the stand? >> that i would. that, i look forward to. >> now, if history is any indicator, don't hold your breath for that. like, that time he declined to testify in the e. jean carroll case, or the time that he refused to testify in the january 6th hearing, or the time he declined to testify in the investigation of his real estate empire, and the time he refused to testify in the hush money case. also, there is the time he would not testify at his own impeachment trial, or the time he did not sit down with robert mueller even though he said that he would. >> i am looking forward t

. >> joining us now, former trump white house lawyer, jim schultz. hello, jim. so help us put us into context. the significant admission by former president trump that bears repeating, it was my decision. did trump just throw his own legal defense under the bus? >> i don't know if he threw his entire legal defense under the bus. but his lawyers are certainly beating their heads against the desk after this weekend. i mean, you are talking about documents, whether you're talking about, you, know what he did or did not do, or what he made decisions relative to as a related to january 6th issues. i mean, all of those issues across the board. his lawyers are telling him don't talk about him. don't say anything definitive. don't talk about it at all. and what does he do? he goes out and does it anyway. so they're gonna be banging their heads against the desk for the next, you, know you are so as the trials unfold. and as he continues the campaign and go out and talk about these issues that should be fodder for the courtroom and not for the public domain. >> yeah, and

. >> joining us now, former trump white house lawyer, jim schultz. hello, jim. so help us put us into context. the significant admission by former president trump that bears repeating, it was my decision. did trump just throw his own legal defense under the bus? >> i don't know if he threw his entire legal defense under the bus. but his lawyers are certainly beating their heads against the desk after this weekend. i mean, you are talking about documents, whether you're talking about, you, know what he did or did not do, or what he made decisions relative to as a related to january 6th issues. i mean, all of those issues across the board. his lawyers are telling him don't talk about him. don't say anything definitive. don't talk about it at all. and what does he do? he goes out and does it anyway. so they're gonna be banging their heads against the desk for the next, you, know you are so as the trials unfold. and as he continues the campaign and go out and talk about these issues that should be fodder for the courtroom and not for the public domain. >> yeah, and

. >> jim schultz, chris timmins, as always thank you so much. listen, my next guest argues that the 19 defendants in the fulton county case actually have a bit of a coordinated strategy behind the scenes. this former assistant watergate prosecutor and he joins me now. i'm glad you're here because there's been a lot about r.i.c.o., which is this criminal enterprise statute. but you say that there is not any thing illegal happening behind the scenes, but that these 19 codefendants lawyers, they are not on islands on to themselves, are? they >> of course not. i have been in multi defendant cases before and, what you wind up doing in those cases is entering into a joint defense agreement with all the other lawyers to protect the privilege and also to come up with a strategy and a way to go after the government's case. to somehow tried to mark it up and try to make things difficult for the government. >> people here are agreement and they think is it a signed document, does the judge have to look at it and agreed to it? who has to sign off on this jo

the results of the requests could have bigger implications for donald trump, and joining us is jim schultz was annoyed with couple of issues. one of them was that jeffrey clark didn't show up. and he said that he is not going to take a statement from him to be put into the court record. why didn't he show up to this court process, the court case? >> i have no idea why he wouldn't show as a, you know, even a former department of justice official, officer of the court, i would have recommended that he showed up for that hearing for that same reason, right. the judge is going to be expecting him to be showing up to be an officer of the court, a lawyer, and something that the judge expected and not a smart play for him. >> you don't believe it was a smart play, and strategy, but you believe it was not a smart strategy not the show up to court? >> perhaps they were worried a what about the judge would ask him, but i don't know what the strategy might have been there, and maybe he did not want the media attention associated with it as well coming in and out of the courthouse as well. but i don't

. >> the stray jim jordan on the border if -- strategy on the border for the biden administration and democrats generally seems to be captured in a phrase that debbie wassemman-schultzat you're seeing is different than reality. their late rale i can't tell jim jordan is don't believe your -- literal strategy is don't believe your lying eyes. we're not going to do anything to stop it but tell you what you're seeing is unreal. it's unbelievable. stuart: it's catastrophic. 50,000 people walked across the border in the past week. if that pace keeps up on annual basis, 2.5, 3 million people in the next year. that's impossible. >> it's absolutely stunning situation. no sign of anything being done and by the way, their central argument, which is we can't do anything because congress has to act and all the republicans fault for blocking our policies. hang on a second, last week they issued a massive change in immigration status for hundreds of thousands of venezuelans and they did that without going to congress. they just did it overnight. if they can do that, why can't they secure the border without congress? stuart: quick thing about last night, the biden campaign sent ca