state vassal to the russian federation, so the truth is that at the time of his disappearance leonid kuchma was trying to maneuver between the west and russia increasing efficiency to a lesser extent when the second presidential elections were held, kuchma already realized that focusing on russia would not give him the opportunity to gain a foothold in power and that russia is as much an ally as the country is interested in the dismantling of its own capabilities i'm not even saying i think he was looking at the state as surely as his own as to his possibilities yes this possibility of course but when at the event we found out about this story with mr. gongadze when these tapes of melnichenko appeared that were made public by oleksandr moroz whom we last saw in the ukrainian politicians before russia 's attack on ukraine, visiting oleksandr lukashenko, do you remember that? the strange story of one political career, from the leader of the communist majority in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, group 239, to the guest of the dictator who gave the territory of his country to attack our country.

already forgotten who yury lutsenko was, and there were quite hypocritical articles related to leonid kuchmashed there in this publication and in the prison robbie. was the dominant dominant story that it means that kuchma just blurted out on these tapes. well, he blurted out, he said it, i don’t want to do that anymore, after all, the second president, let him be. i don’t have the right to humiliate him in any way, but well , he said that give him back to the chechen, let them ask for a ransom where she was pro-bangaza language, that this georgian is there already zadovbav well, remember these words are famous and that allegedly the russian special services used it in order to kill gongadze in this way, to create a point of pressure on leonid kuchma well, then there were these catty scandals and many other things, as if to kuchma took control in this way and this topic was dominant. well, i don't know for many people it was as if no one was to blame , it's just that the russians used this story in order to beat gongadze and influence . for the current, but he wasn't, he wasn't, he was the m

services allegedly used it in order to kill gongadze in this way, to create a point of pressure on leonid kuchmathen there were these court scandals, a lot of things others, as if to take kuchma under control in this way, and this topic was dominant. well, i don’t know, for many people, it was such that it was as if no one was to blame, it’s just that the russians used this story in order to so gongadze and influence. just like such an adapter, yes, an adapter for current, but it wasn’t, it wasn’t, it was the main goal, but i would like to, roman. what do you think , why did this come about in general, and how plausible is it or not? after all, the story here is not about russia. no about kuchma, here is a story about the murder of a man who personified what was not needed at that time by the ukrainian political elite, this is freedom of thought, this is freedom of speech and independent journalism, please, actually, this is your last statement. it probably has the right for life, because the fact is that the particular person was an absolutely uncompromising person, he had no shades of gray, he

state vassal to the russian federation, so the truth is that at the time of the disappearance of leonid kuchma, he tried to maneuver between the west and russia , increasing to a lesser extent the effectiveness when there were the second presidential elections, kuchma already realized that focusing on russia would not give him the opportunity to gain a foothold in power and that russia is not so much his ally as the country that is interested in dismantling his own capabilities, i even say the state. i think that he looked at the state as a sure thing of course, but when we found out about this story with ms. gongadze at the event, when did these tapes of melnychenko appear, which was made public by oleksandr moroz , whom we last saw in the ukrainian politicians before russia 's attack on ukraine, visiting oleksandr lukashenko, do you remember that? the strange story of one political career, from the leader of the communist majority in the verkhovna rada of ukraine, group 239, to the guest of the dictator who gave the territory of his country to attack our country. well, there was a lot in bet

, or leonid danyla, or in kuchma, leonid vakarchuk , what ukraine not russia, what is notsia , not even zero. well, i’m like, how is it there on the road? maybe they demand something, yes, the tsar said that we are yakalapya, and i have the right to punish . so they live in russia for the maximum that ivan grozny iv, well, ukraine has shown that it is not we will still give it to europe if the people don't understand how it is possible to steal like this and didn't show it, well, that is, in general , it's like what if you? they are fighting about the front and the war serhii izhorets, director of the agency defect express serhiy congratulations, i congratulate you vasyl. congratulations to our viewers, do you remember how the russians once reported that they knocked out two ukrainian leopard tanks? in those harvesters and now they are reporting on the terrible losses of western-made ukrainian equipment, but it turns out that it is not exactly equipment. that is, why are they mainly targeting the russians, please? well, in fact , you are probably most interested in the sto

committed the murder with his own hands and he did it on orders, but then we look at what pukach calls leonid kuchmas the customer , can we believe that he himself ? the truth of this statement, you simply cannot believe them like that, it was very clear during the trial that pukach wanted to simply shift the blame to someone else. he repeated many times that he was simply following the order of the commander-in-chief or so did it really happen, did she teach him or did he invent it himself, to say that to this question, unfortunately there is no answer, i really want to hope, i want to believe that we will have an answer to this question, but it is unlikely that it will already be in the court process p valentina and do you believe that the time will come and they will be found the forces that will really reveal because give a dotted line maybe if not a solid line what happened there because i want to tell you by the way that i am inclined to your second version of the special operation of the kremlin fsb just then it was the beginning of the 2000s and since then amount of evidence with poisonings

with one stroke of the pen, warships could go to pay gas debts point u this question was asked by leonid kuchmaving part of the ukrainian ships and sailors. however , this became possible only because of the officer's principledness, our historical investigator stas yasynskyi recalls the combat feat of ukrainian sailors who in 1992 unheard of, they captured their warship and drove it from crimea to odessa under fire and threat of capture, shots from russian ship guns, air attacks, orders to ram for eight hours, the ukrainian crew brought the sks-12 ship from crimea to odessa, and every minute in these hours could become the first minute of a new of the war, the rescue of the skr-12 could have become the largest ukrainian naval special operation of the early 90s if it had been planned by the then fleet command, but our fleet was just born and everything that happened and could happen was a matter of honor a few desperadoes who are tired of obeying the russian admiral escr 112 is a soviet patrol ship of 1967, more than a hundred meters long, it had a crew of eight sailors and was armed with canno

special services allegedly used it in order to kill gongadze, thus creating a point of pressure on leonid kuchmaere were these scandalous scandals and many other things , as if to take control of kuchma in this way and this topic was dominant. well, i don’t know for many people it was as if no one was to blame , it’s just that the russians used this story to beat gongadze and influence . he was not the main target, but i would like to p romanov. what do you think, why did this happen in the first place and how believable can it be? after all, this is not a story about russia, it is not about kuchma, this is a story about the murder of a man who is personified what was not necessary at that time for the ukrainian political elite is freedom of thought , freedom of speech and independent journalism , please actually this is your last statement it probably has the right to life because the point is that

special services allegedly used it in order to kill gongadze, thus creating a point of pressure on leonid kuchmathere were these court scandals and a lot of other things , as if to take control of kuchma in this way and this topic was dominant. well, i don't know for many people it was like nobody was to blame, it's just that the russians used this story in order to to kill gongadze and to influence and what is it like a gonkada is just like such an adapter yes an adapter for the current but it was not he was not he was the main goal but i would like to roman what do you think why did this happen in the first place and how believable can it be or not? after all, the story here is not about russia, not about kuchma, the story here is precisely about the murder of a person who , well, personified what was not needed at that time by the ukrainian political elite, this is freedom of thought, this is freedom of speech and independent journalism, please, actually, this is the last your statement it probably has the right to live because the fact is that the congressman was an absolutely uncompromising

some really cinema ex-adviser of the former president of ukraine leonid kuchma with soskin spoke aboutne, let's listen again. destroyed, then ukraine will simply be torn apart and not even in the same way as russia will break. as so-called friends-partners, poland hungary romania bulgaria moldova slovakia this is what will bite off, uh, whole pieces from ukraine. countries through their territory. all that is true to you is wolves in sheep's clothing. and these are hidden enemies who pretend to be friends. but, if we are already accustomed to the fact that poland claims, yes, on the territory of ukraine, hungary may claim, but moldova is something new. well, here i would not say that moldova is most likely a project here. uh, greater romania which provides. uh, in fact, the absorption of both moldova and part of, uh, the ukrainian territories of the revival of that very great romania, uh, what can we talk about if my sandu is a citizen, what can we talk about romania if holidays are held there. what can be said? literally this year, they canceled the moldovan language and said that our

former ukrainian president leonid kuchma, in his book “ukraine” is not russia , wrote: regardless of of the school carried out at that time, our today’s independence would not have been possible. in addition to schools , theaters, newspapers, universities were ukrainized, civil servants who did not speak ukrainian were dismissed without the right of reinstatement. the policy of ukrainization was not approved even by such prominent figures of the communist movement as rosa luxemburg, she wrote: ukrainian nationalism in russia... is nothing more than just a whim, the antics of several dozen petty-bourgeois intellectuals, without any roots in the economy, politics or spiritual sphere of the country, without any historical tradition, for ukraine has never been a nation, nor a state, and such a ridiculous joke by several university student professors was artificially inflated by lenin and his comrades into a political fact. i will appear on no. ukraine since 1925. then there were just over 10,000 ukrainian schools, and after 5 years there were became 14.430. according to the reports of th

[000:00:00;00] under pressure on leonid kuchmov, well, then there were these cat scandals and many other things , as if to take control of kuchma in this way, and this topic was dominant. well, i don't know, for many people, it was as if no one was to blame , it's just that the russians used this story for in order to kill gongadze and influence. and what about congats - they are just like such an adapter, yes, an adapter for the current, but he was not, he was not the main goal, but i would like, mr. roman . what do you think, why did this happen in the first place and how believable can it be? or no, after all, this story is not about russia, this is not about kuchma, this story is about the murder of a person who, well, personified what was not needed at the time for the ukrainian political elite, this is freedom of thought, this is freedom of speech and independent journalism, please, this is the last one your statement. it probably has the right to life, because the fact is that the individual was an absolutely uncompromising person , he had no shades of gray, he was either black, and the corrupt structure of the state tha

remember this plan was ready in 1992, and kuchma was then the prime minister, and during the new year holidays from 1992 to 1993, when there was a week, leonid danylovich read everything that was given to him to prepare, he came and said yes, nothing, that is, ofigels it will not be like that, that is, unfortunately, not leonid makarovich, not leonid danylovych, there was not enough political will to see it through to the end, and if the poles have it, it might be good that oleg walesa was not a red director, just as leonid danylovych was not ideological or secretary central committee of the communist party of ukraine, he did not really understand economics and gave it to the same lesha kovaltserovych and other economists who did it, and leonid danylevich , especially 90, was a typical red director, he understood how all this would end from the point of view he did not perceive and understand the red director, that is why we had such a chance to carry out and live as in poland, but the political will of the then leadership was unfortunately not enough, unfortunately , we did not have a wise elite at that time. people were not ready, did not